CatnipOligarchy Posted December 14, 2003 Share Posted December 14, 2003 (edited) The Atlanta Braves acquired outfielder J.D. Drew and utility man Eli Marrero from the St. Louis Cardinals today for RHP Jason Marquis, LHP Ray King, and minor league RHP Adam Wainwright. ive been looking over the stats and im starting to like this deal. Given J.D. Drew's bat wont come close to replacing Sheffield, its a start. its a shame jason marquis never lived up to his potential. he could have been a very good major league pitcher but encountered some difficulties and then developed an attitude problem, so it was probably better for him to leave. Ray King - thank god he is gone. that was one of the worst late inning relievers i had ever seen on a contending team. he couldnt throw a first pitch strike if his life depended on it. it got to the point where it seemed like cox only brought him in when first base was open, then he would inevitably walk the first batter and be removed from the game. Adam Wainwright was the #1 pitching prospect in the braves farm system. ive been following his numbers over the last few years and it looked like he had a shot to be good for atlanta in the future. our farm system is still loaded with pitching prospects though, so losing this one hopefully wont hurt too bad. i say this was a good move by schuerholz, but more still needs to be done. full story here Edited December 14, 2003 by CatnipOligarthy Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/123374-braves-get-drew-from-cards/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
[yt] Posted December 14, 2003 Share Posted December 14, 2003 Theres a lot of big and good trades going on now.. I just wish some of them would be with my team, The Rockies. :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/123374-braves-get-drew-from-cards/#findComment-1470250 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danrarbc Posted December 14, 2003 Share Posted December 14, 2003 Heh, with the Cardinals' luck Drew will play 162 games next year without injury :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/123374-braves-get-drew-from-cards/#findComment-1470279 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatnipOligarchy Posted December 14, 2003 Author Share Posted December 14, 2003 Heh, with the Cardinals' luck Drew will play 162 games next year without injury :) thatd be cool.. man when i first saw this trade scroll across the bottom of the tv screen i was praying we traded chipper jones, then we could have kept our pitchers and lost that ho face, but i guess this will work too Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/123374-braves-get-drew-from-cards/#findComment-1470282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labtec Posted December 15, 2003 Share Posted December 15, 2003 Wainwright was all potential, Jason Marquis hasn't showed me anything the time he was here, and Ray "Burger" King... I cringed everytime he came out of the bullpen. I say it was a good move even though Drew is injury prone. Braves just need to make a few moves here & there and they still can be competitive. I just hope Andruw works hard in the off-season like Javy did last off-season (lose weight & #'s increased tremendously). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/123374-braves-get-drew-from-cards/#findComment-1477339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMac Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 thatd be cool.. man when i first saw this trade scroll across the bottom of the tv screen i was praying we traded chipper jones, then we could have kept our pitchers and lost that ho face, but i guess this will work too Drew is an excellent young player that will benefit the braves over the long run. As to your comment on Chipper, are you on crack? Chipper is one of Atlanta's most under used players. He has awesome potential. Leave it to an Atlantan to listen to whatever Turner tells you. Atlanta does not deserve Jones and if he played somewhere else he'd be an all-star. If you don't want him then deal him cause Atlanta doesn't deserve him. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/123374-braves-get-drew-from-cards/#findComment-1492269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatnipOligarchy Posted December 19, 2003 Author Share Posted December 19, 2003 Drew is an excellent young player that will benefit the braves over the long run. As to your comment on Chipper, are you on crack? Chipper is one of Atlanta's most under used players. He has awesome potential. Leave it to an Atlantan to listen to whatever Turner tells you. Atlanta does not deserve Jones and if he played somewhere else he'd be an all-star. If you don't want him then deal him cause Atlanta doesn't deserve him. you can have him for all i care. hes stuck up and doesnt care. he seems to put little to no effort into chasing down fly balls or balls that roll into the corner, often allowing runners to gain an extra base. he doesnt hit in the clutch, and doesnt show any fire or emotion when he fails. He is not under used, he gets every chance in the world. he hits cleanup for gods sake. not long after the season ended, his name was briefly mentioned in trade rumors and he threw a fit about how he doesnt see why anyone would want to get rid of him, and how he'd rather play somewhere he's wanted. i wouldnt miss him for a second Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/123374-braves-get-drew-from-cards/#findComment-1492307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMac Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 Jones isn't an outfielder though. He belongs on third. As for clean up you're thinking of Andrew Jones. He's your prized possesion. Chipper bats from both sides of the plates and has power from both sides too. I can't believe that you don't recognize Chipper's true potential. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/123374-braves-get-drew-from-cards/#findComment-1492341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatnipOligarchy Posted December 19, 2003 Author Share Posted December 19, 2003 Andruw bats 5th. last year it was 3 - Sheff 4 - Chipper 5 - Andruw 6 - Javy Chipper has a lot of potential and a lot of talent, its his attitude that gets me. he could be a lot better player than he is if he would just put a little more effort into it. his demeanor works well enough in the regular season, but in the playoffs we need someone to step up and lead the team. chipper has been called upon to do that, and has failed to do so. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/123374-braves-get-drew-from-cards/#findComment-1492376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMac Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 So because he's not a leader you'll deal him? Why don't you just trade half your team then. Not everyone is a leader and just cause Chipper's not doesn't mean he should be dealt. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/123374-braves-get-drew-from-cards/#findComment-1492410 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatnipOligarchy Posted December 19, 2003 Author Share Posted December 19, 2003 if hes not gonna be a leader then he doesnt need to be complaining about being in left field, doesnt need to be hitting cleanup, doesnt need to be the posterboy of the team. his attitude has cost us at least 7 or 8 games in the last couple of years.. whether its his bat, his lack of hustle, or most commonly his glove. his head just isnt in the right place. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/123374-braves-get-drew-from-cards/#findComment-1492434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMac Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 Just because he's not leader doesn't mean he's not a great player. It doesn't mean he can't dispute what position he plays. Also in baseball one player does not loose a game. It's a team thing. If he blew a play why didn't the next guy fix it. You can't blame a loss on one guy. He's great player that doesn't deserve this kind of scrutiny. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/123374-braves-get-drew-from-cards/#findComment-1492482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxikk Veteran Posted December 21, 2003 Veteran Share Posted December 21, 2003 nice pickup (Y) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/123374-braves-get-drew-from-cards/#findComment-1497598 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejk158 Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 catnip, might i remind u of the late season stats that chipper jones put up, to win the braves the pennant over the mets. he single handidly beat the mets in one game, 2-1, with 2 solo homeruns. yes the braves offense SUX in the postseason, ill be the first braves fan to admit it, but chipper is usually one the only guys who does hit. the reason he isnt an all star nemore, is because he is an outfielder. sosa, bonds, edmonds, pujols, sheffield all of the above mentioned have played outfield their entire career, he is only in his second season out there. come on, give the man some credit Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/123374-braves-get-drew-from-cards/#findComment-1497617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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