$10k Ethernet Cables for true AUDIO!

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Well wouldn't you know I was holding it wrong, much better now.  Thanks!   

 

 

You know, this got me thinking. How many $100 bills have been used as toilet paper by the rich and later went on to circulate throughout the general population? It's definitely possible to use them and wash them off, but there would still be some fecal residue left over.

 

Perhaps this is what they really meant by trickle down economics.

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Audioboxer, on 14 Feb 2015 - 15:23, said:

Now we know where the Neowin donation money goes  :shiftyninja: #cables4staff

 

Yeah but what do you think keeps Neowin up! The 1s and the 0s come in before they are even picked up by the ISP! Those magic rocks that come with it ensure only good news vibes get published too

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Do you need the $100,000 data-centre grade networking switches and routers for these cables to truly shine?

No. You don't need any equipment. They work simply by being there. They don't have to be plugged in usually just be in the room with the equipment or for better throughput simply laying the cable on the device will get the best bandwidth. Your choice to leave it in the packaging or take it out

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did you hear the news,

they are currently working on a new model that works from the moment the customer orders it, so the new "synchronous high-speed in transport" module is able to deliver high def audio that today's savy consumer demands from their audio equipment.

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I bought a 80$ high grade 10pack floppy disk, once.

 

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i did pay $150 or something like that for component video cables from monster + audio,  so when i finally went digital (5 years ago),

i payed the same for digital cables from monster.   what an idiot.   my current HDMI cables are $5 from dollarama, same picture :)

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I've never understood how this stuff doesn't fall under 'false advertising'.

With audio equipment, it's a bit different. There's many factors that play a part into high quality audio reproduction:

 

- source audio

The better the recording the better it will sound. A 128kb bitrate mp3 vs 320kb bitrate mp3 will sound vastly different.

- dac

How well it converts a digital signal to analog. It difficult to accurately convert between one signal and another without losing parts of the signal.

- amp

The signal from the dac often needs to be amplied so that we can hear it better. Now that we are working with an analog signal, we need to amplify it to better hear it. Electronic components have cutoffs for signal amplitudes and not all amplification will be the same or perfect. Some amplify parts of the signal differently and some parts of the signal might get too high and get cutoff.

- cables

Believe it or not, but the cable does make a difference. Since we have an analog signal, the cable can pick up microphonic distortions if it's not properly shielded. It can also distort if the cable doesn't have enough bandwidth for the full signal.

- audio drivers

The part that actually creates the sound in headphones or speakers.

 

Now the problem is different equipment produces a different "color" to the sound. Some focus on pounding bass. Some focus on clean mids, or treble, or bass. Due to people's ears, preferences for how their music sounds, and infinite combos of audio equipment, what's good to me might not be good to you. We can do a signal analysis between the source audio and outputed audio to see how the combination of equipment changes the signal, but beyond that, it's up to the person.

 

I know this is a joke thread, but I hope this somewhat dumb down explanation helps people understand the world of high end audio. Some of it is placebo (a lot of it is in fact in cables), but there's more to it than people think.

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Sadly my dad is one of the people who falls for this sort of thing. He bought $200 worth of hdmi cables last year when he got a new tv. Of course he didn't bother to consult anyone when he got them, too. So he figured they're expensive so they must be better.

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Xilo, on 15 Feb 2015 - 20:08, said:

 

 
 

 

With audio equipment, it's a bit different. There's many factors that play a part into high quality audio reproduction:

 

- source audio

The better the recording the better it will sound. A 128kb bitrate mp3 vs 320kb bitrate mp3 will sound vastly different.

- dac

How well it converts a digital signal to analog. It difficult to accurately convert between one signal and another without losing parts of the signal.

- amp

The signal from the dac often needs to be amplied so that we can hear it better. Now that we are working with an analog signal, we need to amplify it to better hear it. Electronic components have cutoffs for signal amplitudes and not all amplification will be the same or perfect. Some amplify parts of the signal differently and some parts of the signal might get too high and get cutoff.

- cables

Believe it or not, but the cable does make a difference. Since we have an analog signal, the cable can pick up microphonic distortions if it's not properly shielded. It can also distort if the cable doesn't have enough bandwidth for the full signal.

- audio drivers

The part that actually creates the sound in headphones or speakers.

 

Now the problem is different equipment produces a different "color" to the sound. Some focus on pounding bass. Some focus on clean mids, or treble, or bass. Due to people's ears, preferences for how their music sounds, and infinite combos of audio equipment, what's good to me might not be good to you. We can do a signal analysis between the source audio and outputed audio to see how the combination of equipment changes the signal, but beyond that, it's up to the person.

 

I know this is a joke thread, but I hope this somewhat dumb down explanation helps people understand the world of high end audio. Some of it is placebo (a lot of it is in fact in cables), but there's more to it than people think.

 

 

It does not make a difference.

 

To the human ear it can not perceive it. People have did blind tests.

 

Also Ethernet is digital so no loss. That was the argument 30 years ago to switching to cds from tapes. People who are older fall for this crap because they think everything is still analog from the 1960s.

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It does not make a difference.

 

To the human ear it can not perceive it. People have did blind tests.

 

Also Ethernet is digital so no loss. That was the argument 30 years ago to switching to cds from tapes. People who are older fall for this crap because they think everything is still analog from the 1960s.

The human ear can perceive differences in shielded vs non-shielded cables. Non-shielded cables can pick up distortions. This is a fact and is why cables are generally shielded and insulated in the first place. The problem with human testing is everyone is different. What I hear is different from what you hear. Our hearing is not equal.

 

Also, you completely failed to read my post. The "it's digital so it doesn't matter" is completely false. Unless you are using very specific equipment (fiber optic, usb connection, etc), all audio signals are converted to analog before hitting the cable.

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