Boston Marathon bomber Tsarnaev found guilty of all charges

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he would have been dead anyway so it makes little difference to him with this sentence and it will not deture others who want to carry out acts like he did.

better that hes executed than be a burden on the tax payer.

 

 

 

  1. Cases without the death penalty cost $740,000, while cases where the death penalty is sought cost $1.26 million. Maintaining each death row prisoner costs taxpayers $90,000 more per year than a prisoner in general population.

 

Better punishment would be life in prison under solitary confinement.  No virgins in heaven for him...

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To be honest I am all for any kind of death penalty when it involves those who you CAN NOT deny committed murder, terrorism, etc. He was an adult and he knew the difference between Right and Wrong and he only has himself to blame. 

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he would have been dead anyway so it makes little difference to him with this sentence and it will not deture others who want to carry out acts like he did.

better that hes executed than be a burden on the tax payer.

 

Maybe we should use death as a way to fix wasting tax money in other areas to. imagine how much disabled and elderly cost. 

why put this ######er on death row, just execute him and get it over and done with.

 

because, while I wouldn't quite call America civilized when it comes to how it handles criminals, you're not quite a fundamentalist muslim state under imam rule either.

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Better punishment would be life in prison under solitary confinement.  No virgins in heaven for him...

 

No, waste of space for people like this.  Why should my tax dollars go to house/feed these kind of people.  2 in the chest, one in the head....done.

They should just put him in a room and make him watch Hunger Games movies until he kills himself.

 

Naw, get all the victims together and let each one have a go at him if they choose to do so.  If he is close to death, let him recover and continue where they left off.

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No, waste of space for people like this.  Why should my tax dollars go to house/feed these kind of people.  2 in the chest, one in the head....done.

 

Naw, get all the victims together and let each one have a go at him if they choose to do so.  If he is close to death, let him recover and continue where they left off.

 

That would make those inflicting the punishment no different than him.  In a civilized world there are due processes to deal with crimes.  It's a good thing that those that are in charge of the judicial processes do not act based on their emotions.

 

And, as I already quoted, in most cases Death Penalty costs more than to imprison the person for life.

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No, waste of space for people like this.  Why should my tax dollars go to house/feed these kind of people.  2 in the chest, one in the head....done.

 

Naw, get all the victims together and let each one have a go at him if they choose to do so.  If he is close to death, let him recover and continue where they left off.

 

what about the victims that aren't bloodlust barbarians who understand that violence and revenge, contrary to what the american "justice" system thinks, isn't the solution and won't solve anything ? 

 

Like the father who had to leave his son, who he knew was going to die, to carry his daughter that he could save to hospital while the son had to lie their and die alone. who then stod in front of the jury and argued AGAINST death penalty.

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My tax money is better spent putting a bullet in people like this and being done with it.  Never said that it cost more or less.  And a lot of prisoners live very well even in the worst prisons.


what about the victims that aren't bloodlust barbarians who understand that violence and revenge, contrary to what the american "justice" system thinks, isn't the solution and won't solve anything ? 

 

Like the father who had to leave his son, who he knew was going to die, to carry his daughter that he could save to hospital while the son had to lie their and die alone. who then stod in front of the jury and argued AGAINST death penalty.

 

I said for those who choose to do so.  Of course some will forgive/forget and was really my opinion on the subject.  May not be the most popular opinion.

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I can live with grey areas in some murders. Temporary insanity, drugs, just a bad situation.. but cases like this, Death.

 

This wasn't someone who made a mistake, it was premeditated murder that everyone is damn lucky how few actually died.

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My tax money is better spent putting a bullet in people like this and being done with it.  Never said that it cost more or less.  And a lot of prisoners live very well even in the worst prisons.

 

I said for those who choose to do so.  Of course some will forgive/forget and was really my opinion on the subject.  May not be the most popular opinion.

 

So, barbarism is ok if the majority are ok with uncivilized barbarism...

 

well that explains a lot...

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So, barbarism is ok if the majority are ok with uncivilized barbarism...

 

well that explains a lot...

I honestly don't have an opinion on death penalty, I know that some people could be rehabilitated, but what would you do to people who cannot be, who would kill again and again the moment they had the chance?

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Not only that, but killers sentenced to life have killed while in prison. Some do it for cred, some for fun. Worse, some teach other short time prisoners their "craft." When those pupils get out....

In this case he's in the federal system which has a much shorter appeals process. Good riddance.

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Not only that, but killers sentenced to life have killed while in prison. Some do it for cred, some for fun. Worse, some teach other short time prisoners their "craft." When those pupils get out....

In this case he's in the federal system which has a much shorter appeals process. Good riddance.

 

So basically.

 

"Our justice and rehabilitation system is a complete failure, therefore we should kill people instead, because revenge and more murder makes everyone feel good and makes everything good again"

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Not only that, but killers sentenced to life have killed while in prison. Some do it for cred, some for fun.

That highlights the need for prison reform, as no prisoner should be put at risk by another. Execution isn't the answer though, which is why virtually every developed nation has abolished the death penalty. It's a barbaric practice that has no place in a civilised society.

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So basically.

"Our justice and rehabilitation system is a complete failure, therefore we should kill people instead, because revenge and more murder makes everyone feel good and makes everything good again"

Fact of life: a great many of these killers are malignant psychopaths and there's no rehabilitating them, and while in prison they're a very real danger to other prisoners and the staff.

No amount of politically correct reform attempts or psychobabble treatment is going to change that.

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Fact of life: a great many of these killers are malignant psychopaths and there's no rehabilitating them, and while in prison they're a very real danger to other prisoners and the staff.

No amount of politically correct reform attempts or psychobabble treatment is going to change that.

 

oh, so in addition to the previous it's also "well he's sick, so we should just murder him"

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oh, so in addition to the previous it's also "well he's sick, so we should just murder him"

 

There is no point in arguing with you, it seem you cannot see the logical side of things.

 

Even for me, let's say I get into an accident or else, and that I end up either completely paralyzed or in a vegetative state, I'd rather be euthanized than spend the rest of my days in a bed plugged to machine. I know it's not the same situation, but what I'm trying to convey here is that keeping someone alive just for the sake of it make no sense. I don't see what is uncivilized about doing that.

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It's a barbaric practice that has no place in a civilised society.

That's debatable. Mostly because what makes up civilized society is largely what people consider to be civilized. There's no hard definition that civilized means not killing. It's perfectly civilized to kill someone in self defense, why is out not civilized to kill someone we can't fix and we'll only ever cause problems for society or be a drain on tax dollars? I don't like killing people, but I'm not a fan paying for the room and board for the decades it takes for them to die naturally either.

The truth is there is no real right answer. They both suck, but people today are so afraid of reality they want to pretend people don't die. And even when the worst people in the world get killed people are ready to jump to those defense because no matter how bad you are, killing is wrong. Even if you've ruined tens or hundreds of lives.

Should we really be wasting resources on these people? In the US, most inmates get better healthcare than people outside of jail. Not saying it's a wonderful life inside but we put a lot into making sure these people are comfortable and healthy. I don't think that makes sense. They made a choice that landed them where they are. They need to live with those choices just like anyone else should.

If we can kill people in defense of our lives, why is it suddenly wrong to kill people for taking them with intent? For ruining lives?

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