A Real American! Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 So I have been using Spartan for more than a week now. And to my surprise, not only its faster than Firefox in rendering webpages but its much stable in terms of performance. I would have never thought a new beta browser can beat a 10 year old browser. Seriously I was a big fan of FireFox from 2004 to 2010. But After trying Chrome I never looked back. I still have it installed though, but I rarely use it. What do you guys think about Spartan vs FireFox? Anyone else feels that Spartan out performs Firefox? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Overlord Posted May 10, 2015 Share Posted May 10, 2015 I'm ALMOST tempted to ask why this wasn't posted in the jokes section +E.Worm Jimmy, oldtimefighter, Jub and 3 others 6 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Real American! Posted May 10, 2015 Author Share Posted May 10, 2015 I'm ALMOST tempted to ask why this wasn't posted in the jokes section There's no reason to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted May 10, 2015 Veteran Share Posted May 10, 2015 Wouldn't surprise me, Spartan and Firefox use the same rendering APIs, but Spartan renders pages slightly differently to Firefox which performs better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrk Reviews Posted May 12, 2015 Reviews Share Posted May 12, 2015 But does it have FireFtp? uBlock? Sync? +devHead, fusi0n and oldtimefighter 3 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skiver Veteran Posted May 12, 2015 Veteran Share Posted May 12, 2015 Can Spartan/Edge be used outside of Windows 10 yet? Wouldn't mind giving it a try from a proper day to day perspective rather than spin up a VM, browse to google and shut it back down again. oldtimefighter 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torrentthief Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 I would have never thought a new beta browser can beat a 10 year old browser. So you compared spartan with firefox v0.9 ? I'm surprised you didn't think it would beat firefox v0.9, 10yrs is a long time in the computing world. P.S mozilla is working on 'servo' a multi-threaded browser which will be faster than all browsers (assuming it is released before the other browsers become multi-threaded). The Evil Overlord 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mulrian Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Can Spartan/Edge be used outside of Windows 10 yet? Wouldn't mind giving it a try from a proper day to day perspective rather than spin up a VM, browse to google and shut it back down again. Unfortunately not and I don't see it being possible either in the near future. They are tightly integrating it with the Universal App infrastructure and I guess it would be a lot of effort to port it over and not create a load of huge security flaws. Annoyingy that could also decrease adoption as you don't get any of the benefits of using the same browser across all your devices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skiver Veteran Posted May 12, 2015 Veteran Share Posted May 12, 2015 Unfortunately not and I don't see it being possible either in the near future. They are tightly integrating it with the Universal App infrastructure and I guess it would be a lot of effort to port it over and not create a load of huge security flaws. Annoyingy that could also decrease adoption as you don't get any of the benefits of using the same browser across all your devices. Ah thanks for the info. I've not been following Win 10 much so that explains why they haven't done it . I like to be a bit of a guinea pig at work so I'll probably upgrade to Win 10 pretty close after release. I actually ran the Win 8.1 preview as my main desktop at work a few weeks before release and it didn't go too badly so here's hoping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted May 12, 2015 Veteran Share Posted May 12, 2015 Yeah, MS is pushing the universal platform heavily, they realized how badly it was handled in 8/8.1, and they're not doing the same mistake again. Problem is, their new snazzy universal app platform now won't work on 7/8/8.1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Real American! Posted May 12, 2015 Author Share Posted May 12, 2015 I like to be a bit of a guinea pig. You can become a complete Guinea Pig. Not a little bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiagosilva29 Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Problem is, their new snazzy universal app platform now won't work on 7/8/8.1.This ain't a Windows 10 conspiracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick H. Supervisor Posted May 12, 2015 Supervisor Share Posted May 12, 2015 <Moved to Web Browser Discussion & Support> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BooBerry Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 So I have been using Spartan for more than a week now. And to my surprise, not only its faster than Firefox in rendering webpages but its much stable in terms of performance. I would have never thought a new beta browser can beat a 10 year old browser. Seriously I was a big fan of FireFox from 2004 to 2010. But After trying Chrome I never looked back. I still have it installed though, but I rarely use it. What do you guys think about Spartan vs FireFox? Anyone else feels that Spartan out performs Firefox? EDGE works really well as an Alpha browser but has a long way to go. It does the basic's right that is good rendering speed & low usage of unnecessary resources then i can see it being a massive hit. Wouldn't surprise me, Spartan and Firefox use the same rendering APIs, but Spartan renders pages slightly differently to Firefox which performs better. Yes but Edge load pages way more faster especially when opening multiple tabs & background tabs are already rendered whereas in other browser it takes 1-2sec to render. magicmike, MrPringles, Miss Contractility and 3 others 6 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intersect Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 EDGE works really well as an Alpha browser but has a long way to go. It does the basic's right that is good rendering speed & low usage of unnecessary resources then i can see it being a massive hit. Yes but Edge load pages way more faster especially when opening multiple tabs & background tabs are already rendered whereas in other browser it takes 1-2sec to render. O M G! what will you ever do with those lost 1 -2 secs of loading time. lol Firefox and greese money make a good combination Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsupersonic Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Hooray, let's compare a browser that's not yet released to something that is! This is absolutely a pathetic comparison. The Evil Overlord and +E.Worm Jimmy 2 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
episode Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Ah thanks for the info. I've not been following Win 10 much so that explains why they haven't done it . I like to be a bit of a guinea pig at work so I'll probably upgrade to Win 10 pretty close after release. I actually ran the Win 8.1 preview as my main desktop at work a few weeks before release and it didn't go too badly so here's hoping 10 is already much more stable than 8.0 and 8.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argi Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 Hooray, let's compare a browser that's not yet released to something that is! This is absolutely a pathetic comparison. Well, that's the comparison that MSFT is making themselves. They compared Spartan against the latest alphas/beta of the Firefox and Chrome rendering engines and even with the improvements they have in the pipeline, Edge still beat all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimefighter Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 So I have been using Spartan for more than a week now. And to my surprise, not only its faster than Firefox in rendering webpages but its much stable in terms of performance. I would have never thought a new beta browser can beat a 10 year old browser. Seriously I was a big fan of FireFox from 2004 to 2010. But After trying Chrome I never looked back. I still have it installed though, but I rarely use it. What do you guys think about Spartan vs FireFox? Anyone else feels that Spartan out performs Firefox? You are really comparing a unverial app (Edge) that is designed for WIndows 10 to a win32 program (Firefox) that has not been optimized for WIndows 10 what so ever yet? I would hope Edge performs better especially considering it lacks a lot of features (addons) and doesn't support as many HMTL5 features as Firefox. I think Edge performs alright on my WIndows 10 test box but it's still unusable without an adblocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimefighter Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 10 is already much more stable than 8.0 and 8.1 I have always hated Windows 8 but wouldn't describe my Windows 10 test box as "stable". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
episode Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 I have always hated Windows 8 but wouldn't describe my Windows 10 test box as "stable". I run it on multiple PCs and haven't had a real problem with stability. Some functions have failed at points, but it doesn't crash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoboTrigger Posted May 12, 2015 Share Posted May 12, 2015 So I have been using Spartan for more than a week now. And to my surprise, not only its faster than Firefox in rendering webpages but its much stable in terms of performance. I would have never thought a new beta browser can beat a 10 year old browser. Seriously I was a big fan of FireFox from 2004 to 2010. But After trying Chrome I never looked back. I still have it installed though, but I rarely use it. What do you guys think about Spartan vs FireFox? Anyone else feels that Spartan out performs Firefox? Without taking a side, I'd like to know if you performed any objective tests, such as measuring cold start, warm start, script execution speed and so on. It would also be interesting if you could try Browsermark, Peacekeeper and Sunspider and report back with actual numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrk Reviews Posted May 12, 2015 Reviews Share Posted May 12, 2015 New Firefox 38 landed today boasting improved page rendering and other new changes. It's better and better each version. Sod Spartan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Red King Subscriber² Posted May 12, 2015 Subscriber² Share Posted May 12, 2015 IE11 is faster than Firefox TBH Move along people, nothing to see here. The Evil Overlord 1 Share Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Decryptor Veteran Posted May 13, 2015 Veteran Share Posted May 13, 2015 This ain't a Windows 10 conspiracy. It should be. ... Yes but Edge load pages way more faster especially when opening multiple tabs & background tabs are already rendered whereas in other browser it takes 1-2sec to render. Yeah, Edge (Like Chrome/IE/etc.) is highly "multi-processed", so pages can't interfere with each other (Every browser, including Firefox, is highly threaded, all page rendering/parsing/downloading happens on separate threads, but all JS shares a single thread). So when you switch tabs all it has to do is ask the content process to render the page it's already got, no need to wait for other pages to finish their work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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