Is it too late to buy a PS2?

[himal00]

Panthlike in my opinion u shuld buy a ps2. Ps2s never go out of date! They updated them now do they have an ir reciever and a quieter fan and it has the ability to play dvd r and rw. I agree with stezo2k. The xbox isnt a games console its more like a hench and big pc. all its missing is a monitor a keyboard and a mouse. I own a ps2 myself and i have played xbox but i preferred ps2 much more. The xbox is cheaper but thts only becos microsoft were missing out on sales! I also think the xbox is a rip off as u have to buy tthe remote for the xbox just to enable dvd playback. Xbox do an supscription service for online play but with ps2 get the network adapter and a configure it and ur ready nto go. No extra costs. Ps2 always gets the best games first and only now xbox is getting gta 3 and vice city which is one of the best games ever made! Xbox may have betta graphics but who wants a chunky xbox which weighs 8 pounds? when u can have a sleek satin silver or a black ps2. If u want more than tht in a games machine waoit till nxt yr when the ps2s sucessor come the PSX. Its not the first one but a reallly updated ps2. Heres a pic of it. Its has a built in tv tuner built in broadband adapter, space for a memory stick, come in 5 different colours, comes with a remote, a dvd recorder built into the PSX and either a 160gb or 250 gb hard drive. Wat more could u want? Hope I helped!

[Got3n]

what the hell is that, i have never even heard of that thing. Is that sonys new console, the ps3, if not then why make a new console between releases.

[xRKx]

That isn't seriously what the PSX is going to look like, is it? Gawd that thing's hideously ugly. I'm glad I've got absolutely no desire to pick one up - especially at the $750 and $907 retail prices I've been reading.

[Got3n]

Woah. someone give me some linkage to info on this monstorsity they call the PSX, how could i not hear about this damn thing.

[d0tn3t]

FFS /another/ xbox vs. ps2 thread.

If piracy is your thing, get an xbox and put a 300gb HD in it.

<cough>px loader</cough>

[Groovedude]

the PSX is already out as an import... its on lik sangs site.. it costs about $800 for 160gig hardrive version...

*Jap Import* only play jap PS2 games...

Product Features

Plays Playstation and Playstation 2 games

Includes TV Tuner

Includes 160GB HDD

Includes 100 base T Ethernet Adapter

Does not play PAL or USA games

Records up to 204 Hours to the HDD from TV or DVD

Records up to 6 hours on 1 DVD-R/RW

Picture playback of JPEG, TIFF and GIF from HDD or Memory Card slot

Here: http://www.lik-sang.com/news.php?artc=3244

Hard disk capacity  250GB  160GB 

CPU and graphics processor  90nm EE+GS 

Recordable media *1  DVD-R (video mode),

DVD-RW (video mode, VR mode) 

Reproducible media *2  DVD-VIDEO,

DVD-R (video mode),

DVD-RW (video mode, VR mode),

Music CD

CD-R *3 ?A

Memory stick,

"PlayStation" standard CD-ROM,

"PlayStation 2" standard CD-ROM / DVD-ROM 

Time which 4.7GB DVD can be recorded on videotape  HQ about 1 hour,

HSP about 1.5 hours,

SP (standard) about 2 hours,

LP gas about 3 hours,

EP about 4 hours,

SLP about 6 hours 

Time which can be HDD recorded on videotape *4  HQ about 53 hours,

HSP about 81 hours,

SP (standard) About 107 hours,

LP gas about 164 hours,

EP about 217 hours,

SLP about 325 hours 

HQ about 33 hours,

HSP about 51 hours,

SP (standard) About 67 hours,

LP gas about 103 hours,

EP about 137 hours,

SLP about 204 hours 

Image record system  MPEG2 

Voice record system  Linear PCM (at the time of HQ mode),

Dolby Digital 2ch (at the time of HSP, SP, LP gas, EP, and SLP mode) 

Receiving channel  Ground analog (VHF:1-12ch / UHF:13-62ch / CATV:C13-C35ch),

BS analog *5 (1,3,5,7,9,11,13,15ch) 

Dubbing function  HDD->DVD high-speed Dubbing (12Xmax) 

Reproduction function  In-variable-speed reproduction

Simultaneous Record and Playback. 

Edit function  A-B elimination (GOP) * Unit

*  GOP:Group Of Pictures 

Reservation function  Electronic program table (EPG) reservation (G guide),

Time specification reservation,

Reservation program 30 programs (programs may be reserved for 30 days in advance) 

High definition and sound quality 3-dimensional Y/C separation,

Time Base Correction (TBC),

Video D/A converter (12 bits 108MHz),

Ghost reduction tuner,

DNR,

Variable Bit Rate (VBR) record,

Audio D/A converter (24 bits 96kHz) 

Photograph function  File format: JPEG (DCF standard),

Memory stick (only Sony digital still camera) *6 ?A

USB (only Sony digital still camera) *6 ?A

Slide show display,

Rotation of a picture (90 degrees, 180 degrees, 270 degrees) 

Music function  File format: ATRAC3,

The media which can be taken in: Music CD (it changes and records on ATRAC3)

Game function  "PlayStation" standard software *7

"PlayStation 2" standard software *7 

    Disc  O 

HDD  O 

Network  O 

Network function  Firmware upgrade,

PS2 correspondence network service 

Antenna input  Ground analog: VHF/UHF 75ohmF type connector,

BSIF: 75ohmF type connector 

Input-and-output terminal  D terminal output (D1/D2) x1,

A composite image / S image / stereo sound Output terminal x1,

A composite image / S image / stereo sound Input terminal x1,

Optical digital voice output (SPDIF) x1,

Ethernet 100 base/TX x1,

USB (Ver.1.1) terminal x1,

"Memory stick" slot x1,

"PlayStation" and "PlayStation 2" -- "MEMORY CARD" slot x2

Controller terminal x2 

Size  312 x 88 x 323mm

Mass  About 5.8kg  About 5.7kg 

Power consumption  80W 

The main accessories  Remote control, AV cable, an antenna cable, the AC code, a handling description, etc. 

[himal00]

That isn't seriously what the PSX is going to look like, is it? Gawd that thing's hideously ugly. I'm glad I've got absolutely no desire to pick one up - especially at the $750 and $907 retail prices I've been reading

How can anyone call tht ugly!?

[Got3n]

HOLY SH!T. wow thats the first time i have seen that. I like it its soooooo purdeee. If it were not $800 i would think about looking into one, but for now ill use my xbox with my sata hds. lol i wish

[sdkaneda]

ps2: ~ 60 million sales worldwide

xbox and gamecube COMBINED: ~ 20 million

it wouldn't even matter if the ps2 was HALF the power of an xbox. if you're a game developer, more people owning ps2s mean more people you can market your game to. that's why sony has more games and (arguably) better games on average. that's why microsoft and nintendo have to shop and make deals with developers just to get a decent game on their respective systems.

if you have no consoles and you're looking to buy one, it's no question which one you want to buy first.

i'd even try waiting until march if you can to buy any console. they always seem to drop in price around 20 bucks or so every march.

[Groovedude]

The xbox isnt a games console its more like a hench and big pc. all its missing is a monitor a keyboard and a mouse.

oh and the PSX, thats a game console isnt it :laugh: :huh: just grabbed a tivo box and put some ps2 bits in it :blink:

Sony only sell there PS.. because of the past.. if the sega saturn hadn't been a down fall... sony wouldn't of got half its sales...

thats why many people my have chose the PS2 over the D.C when it arrived... because more people were into the PS... :huh:

[bkellner]

don't spend that much money on **** you don't need. you want to play ps2 games, buy a ps2. you want to record tv and dvd's, stick with your computer. you don't need something that does both, it's pointless and costs way too much.

the only reason i don't buy an xbox is every game for xbox that i like is also released for pc.. if it wasn't for this, i probably would grab an xbox. i hate their controllers though.

Edited December 27, 2003 by krazie

[.will]

are there any monthly fees for any ps2 games

[Groovedude]

it only plays jap ps2 games?

yeah its a japenese model... ;) *import*

[himal00]

oh and the PSX, thats a game console isnt it just grabbed a tivo box and put some ps2 bits in it

Sony only sell there PS.. because of the past.. if the sega saturn hadn't been a down fall... sony wouldn't of got half its sales...

thats why many people my have chose the PS2 over the D.C when it arrived... because more people were into the PS... [/code][/GOOGLE]

Well i wasnt takin bout the psx i was talkin bout the ps2 AND the psx is not big.

[Caelamia]

I have both an Xbox and a PS2, and I hardly play the PS2 now. It's currently on loan to a member of my family, so that shows how much I play it! I've just gotten bored of it. I think I'll wait for FFX-2 (if we in the UK ever get it) and that will probably be one of the last games I get for the console. Only have 5 games for my Xbox, but I love it. About 14 or 15 for my PS2, but it's getting old now.

Well, the original guy asked if he should get a PS2, not which is best. I think yes. Despite what people say about it being released early, I still forsee Q2 2005 release. Of course, this all depends when the other 2 companies bring their consoles out. I don't have a Cube, but I know someone who does. I can't say I'm overly fond of them and anxious to buy one for myself, but different things suit different people. :)

Pros of the PS2:

- A great library of games.

- It's broadband compatible.

- Also usable as a DVD player right away (unlike Xboxes, which need a DVD kit or a mod chip).

- The EyeToy is supposed to be good fun.

- Backwards compatible with PS1 games.

Cons of the PS2:

- They're still relatively expensive.

- Looking old and dated now.

- There are fewer "smash hit, must have" games released recently than there used to be.

- They tend to be the "left behind" console these days. By this I mean, when there is a multi-platform game out (eg. Soul Calibur 2), the PS2 version tends to be the worst.

Hope that helps.

[himal00]

oh and the PSX, thats a game console isnt it just grabbed a tivo box and put some ps2 bits in it

Sony only sell there PS.. because of the past.. if the sega saturn hadn't been a down fall... sony wouldn't of got half its sales...

thats why many people my have chose the PS2 over the D.C when it arrived... because more people were into the PS...

I WASNT TALKIN ABOUT THE PS2 IN THE FIRST PLACE AND THE PSX ISNT BIG

[Groovedude]

Panthlike in my opinion u shuld buy a ps2. Ps2s never go out of date! They updated them now do they have an ir reciever and a quieter fan and it has the ability to play dvd r and rw. I agree with stezo2k. The xbox isnt a games console its more like a hench and big pc. all its missing is a monitor a keyboard and a mouse. I own a ps2 myself and i have played xbox but i preferred ps2 much more. The xbox is cheaper but thts only becos microsoft were missing out on sales! I also think the xbox is a rip off as u have to buy tthe remote for the xbox just to enable dvd playback. Xbox do an supscription service for online play but with ps2 get the network adapter and a configure it and ur ready nto go. No extra costs. Ps2 always gets the best games first and only now xbox is getting gta 3 and vice city which is one of the best games ever made! Xbox may have betta graphics but who wants a chunky xbox which weighs 8 pounds? when u can have a sleek satin silver or a black ps2. If u want more than tht in a games machine waoit till nxt yr when the ps2s sucessor come the PSX. Its not the first one but a reallly updated ps2. Heres a pic of it. Its has a built in tv tuner built in broadband adapter, space for a memory stick, come in 5 different colours, comes with a remote, a dvd recorder built into the PSX and either a 160gb or 250 gb hard drive. Wat more could u want? Hope I helped!

himal00-Posted: Dec 27 2003, 21:03

I WASNT TALKIN ABOUT THE PS2 IN THE FIRST PLACE AND THE PSX ISNT BIG

not talking about the PS2 much !!!..... and who cares about how much a game console ways.. its only supposed to sit next to the t.v it's not a frigging Game Boy Advance :laugh:

[bluebsh]

more people were into the PS...

I WASNT TALKIN ABOUT THE PS2 IN THE FIRST PLACE AND THE PSX ISNT BIG

on my if you think PSX isn't big look at sony japans site and look at the dimensions... it's a tad bit bigger then the xbox!

外形寸法 312?323?88mm（幅?高さ?奥行／縦置き時、最大突起含む）

thats 31.2x32.2x8.8cm!

or for english

14 inches long 14 inches wide and 4 inches high!

[bluebsh]

also, PS3 was announced to be designed very similary to XBOX, so stop complaining about xbox being a computer, you can't even directly convert xbox back into a computer system easily... it's a majorly modified system, just bacause it has a nvidia chipset, graphics card and an intel processor doesn't mean its exactly the same as the thing sitting on ur desk...

as for PS3... they're going to be following the computer type system based way that xbox used to design it.. read up on PS3 and you will find that out...

and for other consoles... they're just as a computer as xbox is! what chip or how the bus is designed doesn't make a computer a computer or a console diffrent from a computer... they're all computers

[HellBender]

lol

you can't even directly convert xbox back into a computer system easily

<sarcasm>You're right.. it takes a full torturous five minutes to install a heavy, expensive mod chip into there.. and the linux that you can install on there isnt the same as the linux you can install on a PC :rolleyes: </sarcasm>

and for other consoles... they're just as a computer as xbox is! what chip or how the bus is designed doesn't make a computer a computer or a console diffrent from a computer... they're all computers

You're right, I sure love my linux PS2 box :yes:

[Groovedude]

Ok im not going to say anymore...

PS2 may suit other people

Xbox may suit other people

enough said... !

[bluebsh]

lol

<sarcasm>You're right.. it takes a full torturous five minutes to install a heavy, expensive mod chip into there.. and the linux that you can install on there isnt the same as the linux you can install on a PC :rolleyes: </sarcasm>

You're right, I sure love my linux PS2 box :yes:

well.. the PS3 from all the stuff I read will be running on a standard processor similar to XBOX and be running on an embedded os like xbox (some people say linux, some say a custom os) which to me is exactly like xbox, considering its doing that same thing...

as for the modding, anything that involves changeing hardware like that or soldering onto a motherboard is a heavy modification to me... it does take skill to solder especialy at SMD (surface mount devices) levels like that... and of course linux on xbox is gona be diffrent then on a standard x86 system... you have to deal with a lot of the embedded code MS put in the system...

[stezo2k]

hehe, lemme guess, you own a PS2?

i own both actually

[himal00]

Alrite blubsh i didnt no it was tht big! Anyway i dnt really care i was jus givin the person my view. lol. Im fine with my ps2 at the mo. Have they released any info on the xbox 2?

[eXclusive]

I got a PS2 and a Xbox ....

( I am spoiled i know )

But i rarely use them, i use my PC most ...