Is it too late to buy a PS2?


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damn i hate you guys!

i was actually thinking of getting the ps2 system later in 2004 only because im in love with gt series but now u say xbox has waaaay better graphics and im a graphics freak. so now i cant decide what to get...

tbh the only thing thats keeping me buying a xbox is the lack of good games... i didnt really like halo (pc) and it feels crap playing a fps on a console.

splinter cell 2, well it will be out on the pc too

halo2 bah! fps on console not for me

Dead or Alive: Online, i wont be playing online games on my console (cant afford it lol)

im really into good rpgs and xbox have a huge lack of them. ps2 has great ones ff kingdom hearts etc and above all i would probably get ps2 for gt4 seriously i fell in love with that series... just the option of having 500+ cars to choose from is fantastic.

so overall i would still go for the ps2 (hope its waaay cheaper later in 2004) and most probably chip it lol (cant afford the games either) and get imports from canada (bro lives there). prices in the uk suck...

anyways peace guys

;)

If I didnt own a PS2 I would buy one simply for GT4, they are pushing the boundries again, and the graphics looke even nicer this time round!

The prolouge version is already out in Japan, and it looks damn nice!!!

Anyway, and only $140USD for a PS2 its the price you would pay for an ok graphics card, and some people spend that in a week on drugs and alcahol. So wat am i saying? - Dont do drugs do PS2, well dont do it, just buy it, then you can work on ur Playstation Tan all summer (or winter over there)

damn i hate you guys!

i was actually thinking of getting the ps2 system later in 2004 only because im in love with gt series but now u say xbox has waaaay better graphics and im a graphics freak. so now i cant decide what to get...

tbh the only thing thats keeping me buying a xbox is the lack of good games... i didnt really like halo (pc) and it feels crap playing a fps on a console.

splinter cell 2, well it will be out on the pc too

halo2 bah! fps on console not for me

Dead or Alive: Online, i wont be playing online games on my console (cant afford it lol)

im really into good rpgs and xbox have a huge lack of them. ps2 has great ones ff kingdom hearts etc and above all i would probably get ps2 for gt4 seriously i fell in love with that series... just the option of having 500+ cars to choose from is fantastic.

so overall i would still go for the ps2 (hope its waaay cheaper later in 2004) and most probably chip it lol (cant afford the games either) and get imports from canada (bro lives there). prices in the uk suck...

anyways peace guys

;)

I hope you buddy :woot:

ffx2 is the most rediculous excuse for a final fantasy game i've ever seen. worse than ff11 :x

i hate the way square is going with them now, they used to be awesome, but now it seems final fantasy is going down the drain... :cry:

It's a very lighthearted game, but it gets VERY serious towards the end. I'm in chapter 5 now and I'm glad I didn't dismiss it as 'corny' because it's a very good sequel to FFX.

FFXI can't be compared to the others. It's like comparing apples and oranges.

Mike

If I didnt own a PS2 I would buy one simply for GT4, they are pushing the boundries again, and the graphics looke even nicer this time round!

The prolouge version is already out in Japan, and it looks damn nice!!!

Anyway, and only $140USD for a PS2 its the price you would pay for an ok graphics card, and some people spend that in a week on drugs and alcahol. So wat am i saying? - Dont do drugs do PS2, well dont do it, just buy it, then you can work on ur Playstation Tan all summer (or winter over there)

Although GT4 looks good for ps2 power, alot of it is fake apparently, pgr2 is so ****ing miles better. PS2 is all hype and I see no good games coming out for it, they still charge you alot for what it does. In comparison the Xbox is better and cheaper and comes with hdd and network in it. That should be enough to tell your senses right to buy an Xbox and also 90% of PS2 games come to Xbox so you wont be missing much not that there are many decent PS2 games much :rolleyes: . Xbox has a whole list of great games lined up for 2004 and dont see many for PS2, ah well enough of me talking :|

I own bought a ps2, and loved it, but I saw the xbox just sitting there, so I picked one up and the graphics blew me away. I started picking Xbox games over ps2 (if they were released on both) and still do it to the day. Wouldn't have it any other way. I still enjoy my ps2, don't get me wrong, but when I get a chance to use the xbox over it, I do.

and ...... the PS1 (the old one, not the PSOne) was very ****tly made and ... sowasthepstwo ... ok i'm stopping now

OMG you people dont even read befor you post do oyu?

Why are you recomending the Xbox? he already has one he only wants to know if he should get it!

IT is not PS2 vs Xbox! the guy wants to know if its not too late nothing more!

Yes! i say get if you can afford it, there many good games and the Graphic is not as bad they make it seem to be!

Although GT4 looks good for ps2 power, alot of it is fake apparently, pgr2 is so ****ing miles better. PS2 is all hype and I see no good games coming out for it, they still charge you alot for what it does. In comparison the Xbox is better and cheaper and comes with hdd and network in it. That should be enough to tell your senses right to buy an Xbox and also 90% of PS2 games come to Xbox so you wont be missing much not that there are many decent PS2 games much  :rolleyes: . Xbox has a whole list of great games lined up for 2004 and dont see many for PS2, ah well enough of me talking :|

PGR2 is in no way better then GT4!

You say the xbox is cheaper and come with all those things, you think its becouse Sony are out trying rob the people? no its becouse the own the Market, the xbox is doing very bad compaired to PS2 so they are selling bundel games with HDD and network!

MS are not making money on the Xbox hardware but they are trying to make money with the games and also whice PS2 is domanating!

90% of PS2 games come to Xbox???

care to prove that?

there are many decent PS2 games much

You again Discredit yourself with such statmen claiming there no Good PS2 games out!

what do you call

Final Fantasy 10

GTA 3 & Vice city

Need for Speed Underground

Kingdom Hearts

True Crime: Streets of LA

SOCOM II: U.S. Navy SEALs

Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando

Manhunt

So acording to you those game you not Decent? and those just tip of the iceberg

Xbox has a whole list of great games lined up for 2004 and dont see many for PS2

Spoken like a true fanboy!

You want to see up coming titles for the PS2:

Kingdom Hearts II

TimeSplitters 3

Final Fantasy XII

Call of Cthulhu (PS2 Exclusive Sequel)

Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Jungle Storm

R-Type Final

SNK vs. Capcom: SVC Chaos

StarCraft: Ghost

Rise to Honor

Headhunter: Redemption

Mega Man Anniversary Collection

Colin McRae Rally 4

Hitman: Contracts

Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow

Resident Evil Outbreak

Onimusha Blade Warriors

Gran Turismo 4

Syphon Filter: Omega Strain

EA Sports Fight Night 2004

Madden NFL 2005

Xenosaga Episode II: Jenseits von Gut und Bose

Onimusha 3

Grand Theft Auto IV

Dead to Rights II: Hell to Pay

Conflict: Vietnam

Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater

Call of Duty: Finest Hour

Dark Cloud 3

Die Hard: Vendetta

Dragon Ball GT

EyeToy: Groove

EyeToy: Play 2

Mega Man X: Command Mission

State of Emergency 2

Street Hoops 2

yeah you right PS2 owner have not tollook forward to! NOT!

There goes you statement and those only the comfirmed so far and there alots more!

PGR2 is in no way better then GT4!

You say the xbox is cheaper and come with all those things, you think its becouse Sony are out trying rob the people? no its becouse the own the Market, the xbox is doing very bad compaired to PS2 so they are selling bundel games with HDD and network!

MS are not making money on the Xbox hardware but they are trying to make money with the games and also whice PS2 is domanating!

90% of PS2 games come to Xbox???

care to prove that?

there are many decent PS2 games much

You again Discredit yourself with such statmen claiming there no Good PS2 games out!

what do you call

Final Fantasy 10

GTA 3 & Vice city

Need for Speed Underground

Kingdom Hearts

True Crime: Streets of LA

SOCOM II: U.S. Navy SEALs

Ratchet & Clank: Going Commando

Manhunt

So acording to you those game you not Decent? and those just tip of the iceberg

Xbox has a whole list of great games lined up for 2004 and dont see many for PS2

Spoken like a true fanboy!

You want to see up coming titles for the PS2:

Kingdom Hearts II

TimeSplitters 3

Final Fantasy XII

Call of Cthulhu (PS2 Exclusive Sequel)

Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon: Jungle Storm

R-Type Final

SNK vs. Capcom: SVC Chaos

StarCraft: Ghost

Rise to Honor

Headhunter: Redemption

Mega Man Anniversary Collection

Colin McRae Rally 4

Hitman: Contracts

Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow

Resident Evil Outbreak

Onimusha Blade Warriors

Gran Turismo 4

Syphon Filter: Omega Strain

EA Sports Fight Night 2004

Madden NFL 2005

Xenosaga Episode II: Jenseits von Gut und Bose

Onimusha 3

Grand Theft Auto IV

Dead to Rights II: Hell to Pay

Conflict: Vietnam

Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater

Call of Duty: Finest Hour

Dark Cloud 3

Die Hard: Vendetta

Dragon Ball GT

EyeToy: Groove

EyeToy: Play 2

Mega Man X: Command Mission

State of Emergency 2

Street Hoops 2

yeah you right PS2 owner have not tollook forward to!  NOT!

There goes you statement and those only the comfirmed so far and there alots more!

Here here! couldnt agree with you more! :D

Edit: btw you forgot devil may cry in your list ;)

We know he has the Xbox already, I am just simply saying he is wasting his money. Okya the games list of which you said are decent and out for ps2 is stupid because 3 off those are already out on Xbox and Manhunt is comfirmed to come for the Xbox. In your lists of current games for 2004, I will ststae which ones are coming to Xbox and not just PS2, StarCraft:Ghost , the developers are spedning more time on the Xbox version so it will be better. I don't like you sytated Colin Mcrae Rally 4 because well thats already out in Europe and has been for ages and out on Xbox. Hitman:Contracts is coming to Xbox, same with Pandora Tomorrow. We are getting Headhunter: Redemption also. Dead to Rights II: Hell to Pay also. Conflict Vietnam. Getting Call of Duty :Finest Hour.Getting state of emergency 2.

To be honest none of the rest appeal to me apart Time Splitters 3. Die Hard Vendetta is crap. These games are nothing unlike what the Xbox will offer-

RPG's

B.C.

Fable

True Fantasy

Sudeki

Action Games

StarCraft: Ghost

Splinter Cell 2: Pandora Tommorow

Ninja Gaiden

Shooters

Halo 2

Full Spectrum Warrior

Painkiller

Trinity

Adventure

Kameo

Conker: Live and Uncut

Fighters

Dead or Alive: Online

Breakdown

And that is just a small list of what the big games it has to offer.

You think PS2 is good, Buying a PS2 +Network Adapter + HDD would cost around ?200 here iirc compared to the just ?129 for the xbox. Stick with your Xbox and dont bother buying the PS2 imo .

How about you save that money you were going to waste on a tnt filled box, and buy a gaming machine. As in a computer.Trust me you'll have alot more fun on a PC than you'll ever have on a ps2, and or an xbox, because you can do alot lot, more.

Simple solution, pick up a cheap 2nd hand PS2 and get the games you want - initial oulay lower so it won't sting as much if you wanna upgrade to PSX or PS3.

I have an original PS - my first ever console and i have only had that for about 3 months (28 years old - how did i survive???)

Will probably get the PSX if it comes out in UK (price dependant) but only cause of massive back catalogue and HDD / DVD recorder built in.

We know he has the Xbox already, I am just simply saying he is wasting his money. Okya the games list of which you said are decent and out for ps2 is stupid because 3 off those are already out on Xbox and Manhunt is comfirmed to come for the Xbox. In your lists of current games for 2004, I will ststae which ones are coming to Xbox and not just PS2, StarCraft:Ghost , the developers are spedning more time on the Xbox version so it will be better. I don't like you sytated Colin Mcrae Rally 4 because well thats already out in Europe and has been for ages and out on Xbox. Hitman:Contracts is coming to Xbox, same with Pandora Tomorrow. We are getting Headhunter: Redemption also. Dead to Rights II: Hell to Pay also. Conflict Vietnam. Getting Call of Duty :Finest Hour.Getting state of emergency 2.

? ? To be honest none of the rest appeal to me apart Time Splitters 3. Die Hard Vendetta is crap. These games are nothing unlike what the Xbox will offer-

RPG's

B.C.

Fable

True Fantasy

Sudeki

Action Games

StarCraft: Ghost

Splinter Cell 2: Pandora Tommorow

Ninja Gaiden Shooters

Halo 2

Full Spectrum Warrior

Painkiller

Trinity

Adventure

Kameo

Conker: Live and Uncut Fighters

Dead or Alive: Online

Breakdown

And that is just a small list of what the big games it has to offer.

You think PS2 is good, Buying a PS2 +Network Adapter + HDD would cost around ?200 here iirc compared to the just ?129 for the xbox. Stick with your Xbox and dont bother buying the PS2 imo .

But then its only you oppinion of what decent game is..

to other people game like

NCAA Gamebreaker 2004 - Sony - Online Play

NFL Gameday 2004 - Sony - Online Play

NHL 2004 - EA - Online Play only for PS2

NHL Hitz Pro - Midway - Online Play only for PS2

Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2004 - EA - Online Play only for PS2

NFL Blitz Pro - Midway - Online Play only for PS2

NBA Shootout 2004 - Sony - Online Play

NBA Live 2004 - EA - Online Play only for PS2

Jak 2 - Sony

Manhunt - Rockstar Games - limited exclusive?

Castlevania: Lament of Innocent - Konami

FIFA 2004 - EA - Online Play only for PS2

WWE Smackdown: Here comes the pain - THQ

Kya - Atari

Prince of Persia The Sands of TIme - Ubi Soft - ps2 exclusive 2003

SOCOM 2 - Sony - Online Play

Beyond Good & Evil - Ubi Soft - ps2 exclusive 2003

Medal of Honor: Rising Sun - EA - Online Play only for PS2 (TBA)

NCAA Final Four 2004 - Sony - Online Play

Rachet & Clank 2 - Sony

Everquest Online Advantures: Frontiers - Sony - Online Play

Champion of Norrath: Realms of Everquest - Sony - Online Play

Cy Girl - Konami

Dragon Ball Z: Budokai 2 - Atari - limited exclusive?

Final Fantasy X-2 - SquareEnix

TOm Clancy Ghost Recon: Jungle Storm - Ubi Soft - Online Play

Destruction Derby - Sony - Online Play

Shinobi 2 - Sega

Ghosthunter - Sony

Gran Turismo 4 - Sony - Online Play

Maximo vs. Army of Zin - Capcom

Syphon Filter: Omega Staine - Sony - Online Play

Rise to Honor - Sony

Star Ocean till the end of time - squareenix

Resident Evil Outbreak - Capcom - Online Play

Drakengaard - Squareenix

Onimusha Blade Warrior - Capcom

Onimusha 3 - Capcom

Killzone - Sony - Online Play

MGS 3 Snake Eater - Konami - Online (downlaod extra)

Dark Cloud 3 - Sony

Dragon Quest VIII - Squareenix

ico 2 - sony

Kingdom Hearts 2 - Capcom

Siren - Sony

The Getaway 2 - Sony

Prima 2 - Sony

Final Fantasy XIII - Squareenix

GTA next - Rocktar Games

The Warrior - Rockstar Games

way beyond decent i belive you know that too, just know why you are denying that?

And for the Reason for the PS2 prices, read my other post!

But like you said it appeal to one, btu i already have a xbox andthe game list you provided, most are out on PC or just suck like Halo!

Edited by MindTrickz
ps2 all the way; it is a true gaming machine unlike the x-box which is just a pc with aesthetics..

the ps3 will pwn over the xbox-2 too..

But it's job is to play games.

What is it with this silly, childish bias against the Xbox?

Then again, I'm dealing with someone that writes "pwn". :rolleyes:

Mike

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    • Passkeys: Think of them like a broken heart necklace. Imagine one of those heart necklaces that breaks into two matching pieces. One person keeps one half, and the other person keeps the other half. With passkeys, the website has one half, and you have the other half. If the website gets hacked and someone steals its half, that stolen piece is useless by itself. It cannot unlock your account without your matching half. This particular heart necklace is one of a kind, there is only one in existence. Your half of the necklace has to be stored somewhere. It might be stored on your phone, tablet, computer, security key, or a password manager that can sync it between all your devices. A security key is a small physical device that you keep with you, kind of like a house key, car key, or flash drive. I would not usually recommend a security key as the first option for the average person. For most people, it is easier to use their phone, computer, or a password manager that can sync passkeys between their devices. A security key is more like a spare key you keep in a safe place, just in case you lose access to your other devices or your password manager. Some security keys plug into your computer. Some plug into your phone or tablet. Some get tapped against your device. The idea is simple: a security key can hold another passkey for the same website. Think of it like creating a second one-of-a-kind heart necklace for the same account. One necklace could be paired with your password manager, while another necklace could be paired with your security key. That means the website has more than one matching half on file. One half matches the passkey in your password manager. Another half matches the passkey stored on your security key. So, if you lose access to your phone, computer, or password manager, you would still be able to log in using the passkey stored on your security key. Think of it like keeping an extra special necklace piece on a tiny keychain, stored somewhere safe. The website still has the matching half for that security key, but your half is safely stored inside the little key. A passkey does not automatically exist on every device you own. It lives wherever you save it. If your half is stored on one device, then that device is the one that has the matching piece. For example, if you create the passkey on your Windows computer and it is only saved to that computer, your iPhone does not automatically have that same half. If you create it on your iPhone and it only stays on that iPhone, your Android phone does not automatically have it either. That is where password managers come in. A password manager can act like a protected jewelry box for your passkeys. Instead of your half of the necklace being locked to only one device, the password manager can securely sync that half to your other approved devices. For example, Apple Passwords and iCloud Keychain can sync passkeys between your Apple devices. Google Password Manager can sync passkeys with your Google account. But password managers such as 1Password and Bitwarden can sync passkeys between everything, your phones, tablets and computers. Now, you might ask: “What happens if I lose access to the device that has my passkey?” That depends on where your passkey was saved and what recovery options the website gives you. If your passkey was synced through a password manager, you may be able to sign in from another device that has access to that same password manager. For example, if your passkey is saved in iCloud Keychain, Google Password Manager, 1Password, or Bitwarden, another approved device may still have access to it. If your passkey was saved only on one phone, computer, or security key, and you lose that device, then you may not have your half of the necklace anymore. In that case, you would usually need to use the website’s backup login or account recovery options. A lot of websites that support passkeys still let you fall back to your regular password. So if you lose access to your passkey, the site may still let you log in with your password, a code sent to your email, a text message, a recovery code, or some other account recovery process. That is convenient, but it is also important to understand: if the website still allows password login, then your password still matters. Passkeys are safer than passwords, but if your account still has a password as a backup, you should still use a strong, unique password and turn on two-factor authentication if the website offers it. This is why it is a good idea to have more than one safe way back into important accounts. For example, you might keep your passkey in a syncing password manager, add a second trusted device, save recovery codes somewhere safe, or set up a backup security key. A passkey is very secure, but just like a real key, you need a backup plan in case you lose access to it. Now, you might ask: “What stops a hacker from copying my half of the necklace?” That’s the important part: your half is protected. It is not something you type in, and it is not something the website gets to keep. Think of your half as being locked inside a tiny safe on your phone, computer, security key, or password manager. That safe only opens when you approve it with your fingerprint, face, PIN, or device password. When you log in, the website does not need to see your half. It only needs proof that your half matches its half. Your actual half is not handed over to the website. This is different from a password. With a password, you type the secret into the website. If you type it into a fake website, the hacker now has it. With a passkey, you are not typing your secret into the website. Your device is proving you have the matching half without giving the half away. That also helps protect you from fake websites. If someone makes a fake login page that looks like the real site, your device can tell it is not the real match. It will not use your passkey there. Now, could someone use your passkey if they stole your device, got into your password manager, or somehow unlocked the safe that holds your half? Yes, that is why your device password, PIN, fingerprint, face unlock, and password manager security still matter. But a hacker cannot just steal your passkey from the website or trick you into typing it into a fake page like they can with a password. That is why passkeys are safer than passwords. The two matching pieces have to come together, like two lovebirds who were once separated and are finally reunited.
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