himal00 Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 Panthlike in my opinion u shuld buy a ps2. Ps2s never go out of date! They updated them now do they have an ir reciever and a quieter fan and it has the ability to play dvd r and rw. I agree with stezo2k. The xbox isnt a games console its more like a hench and big pc. all its missing is a monitor a keyboard and a mouse. I own a ps2 myself and i have played xbox but i preferred ps2 much more. The xbox is cheaper but thts only becos microsoft were missing out on sales! I also think the xbox is a rip off as u have to buy tthe remote for the xbox just to enable dvd playback. Xbox do an supscription service for online play but with ps2 get the network adapter and a configure it and ur ready nto go. No extra costs. Ps2 always gets the best games first and only now xbox is getting gta 3 and vice city which is one of the best games ever made! Xbox may have betta graphics but who wants a chunky xbox which weighs 8 pounds? when u can have a sleek satin silver or a black ps2. If u want more than tht in a games machine waoit till nxt yr when the ps2s sucessor come the PSX. Its not the first one but a reallly updated ps2. Heres a pic of it. Its has a built in tv tuner built in broadband adapter, space for a memory stick, come in 5 different colours, comes with a remote, a dvd recorder built into the PSX and either a 160gb or 250 gb hard drive. Wat more could u want? Hope I helped! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/126454-is-it-too-late-to-buy-a-ps2/page/2/#findComment-1520816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got3n Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 what the hell is that, i have never even heard of that thing. Is that sonys new console, the ps3, if not then why make a new console between releases. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/126454-is-it-too-late-to-buy-a-ps2/page/2/#findComment-1520835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRKx Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 That isn't seriously what the PSX is going to look like, is it? Gawd that thing's hideously ugly. I'm glad I've got absolutely no desire to pick one up - especially at the $750 and $907 retail prices I've been reading. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/126454-is-it-too-late-to-buy-a-ps2/page/2/#findComment-1520847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got3n Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 Woah. someone give me some linkage to info on this monstorsity they call the PSX, how could i not hear about this damn thing. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/126454-is-it-too-late-to-buy-a-ps2/page/2/#findComment-1520854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0tn3t Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 FFS /another/ xbox vs. ps2 thread. If piracy is your thing, get an xbox and put a 300gb HD in it. <cough>px loader</cough> Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/126454-is-it-too-late-to-buy-a-ps2/page/2/#findComment-1520867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groovedude Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 the PSX is already out as an import... its on lik sangs site.. it costs about $800 for 160gig hardrive version... *Jap Import* only play jap PS2 games... Product Features Plays Playstation and Playstation 2 games Includes TV Tuner Includes 160GB HDD Includes 100 base T Ethernet Adapter Does not play PAL or USA games Records up to 204 Hours to the HDD from TV or DVD Records up to 6 hours on 1 DVD-R/RW Picture playback of JPEG, TIFF and GIF from HDD or Memory Card slot Here: http://www.lik-sang.com/news.php?artc=3244 Hard disk capacity 250GB 160GB CPU and graphics processor 90nm EE+GS Recordable media *1 DVD-R (video mode), DVD-RW (video mode, VR mode) Reproducible media *2 DVD-VIDEO, DVD-R (video mode), DVD-RW (video mode, VR mode), Music CD CD-R *3 ?A Memory stick, "PlayStation" standard CD-ROM, "PlayStation 2" standard CD-ROM / DVD-ROM Time which 4.7GB DVD can be recorded on videotape HQ about 1 hour, HSP about 1.5 hours, SP (standard) about 2 hours, LP gas about 3 hours, EP about 4 hours, SLP about 6 hours Time which can be HDD recorded on videotape *4 HQ about 53 hours, HSP about 81 hours, SP (standard) About 107 hours, LP gas about 164 hours, EP about 217 hours, SLP about 325 hours HQ about 33 hours, HSP about 51 hours, SP (standard) About 67 hours, LP gas about 103 hours, EP about 137 hours, SLP about 204 hours Image record system MPEG2 Voice record system Linear PCM (at the time of HQ mode), Dolby Digital 2ch (at the time of HSP, SP, LP gas, EP, and SLP mode) Receiving channel Ground analog (VHF:1-12ch / UHF:13-62ch / CATV:C13-C35ch), BS analog *5 (1,3,5,7,9,11,13,15ch) Dubbing function HDD->DVD high-speed Dubbing (12Xmax) Reproduction function In-variable-speed reproduction Simultaneous Record and Playback. Edit function A-B elimination (GOP) * Unit * GOP:Group Of Pictures Reservation function Electronic program table (EPG) reservation (G guide), Time specification reservation, Reservation program 30 programs (programs may be reserved for 30 days in advance) High definition and sound quality 3-dimensional Y/C separation, Time Base Correction (TBC), Video D/A converter (12 bits 108MHz), Ghost reduction tuner, DNR, Variable Bit Rate (VBR) record, Audio D/A converter (24 bits 96kHz) Photograph function File format: JPEG (DCF standard), Memory stick (only Sony digital still camera) *6 ?A USB (only Sony digital still camera) *6 ?A Slide show display, Rotation of a picture (90 degrees, 180 degrees, 270 degrees) Music function File format: ATRAC3, The media which can be taken in: Music CD (it changes and records on ATRAC3) Game function "PlayStation" standard software *7 "PlayStation 2" standard software *7 Disc O HDD O Network O Network function Firmware upgrade, PS2 correspondence network service Antenna input Ground analog: VHF/UHF 75ohmF type connector, BSIF: 75ohmF type connector Input-and-output terminal D terminal output (D1/D2) x1, A composite image / S image / stereo sound Output terminal x1, A composite image / S image / stereo sound Input terminal x1, Optical digital voice output (SPDIF) x1, Ethernet 100 base/TX x1, USB (Ver.1.1) terminal x1, "Memory stick" slot x1, "PlayStation" and "PlayStation 2" -- "MEMORY CARD" slot x2 Controller terminal x2 Size 312 x 88 x 323mm Mass About 5.8kg About 5.7kg Power consumption 80W The main accessories Remote control, AV cable, an antenna cable, the AC code, a handling description, etc. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/126454-is-it-too-late-to-buy-a-ps2/page/2/#findComment-1520869 Share on other sites More sharing options...
himal00 Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 That isn't seriously what the PSX is going to look like, is it? Gawd that thing's hideously ugly. I'm glad I've got absolutely no desire to pick one up - especially at the $750 and $907 retail prices I've been reading How can anyone call tht ugly!? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/126454-is-it-too-late-to-buy-a-ps2/page/2/#findComment-1520880 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got3n Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 HOLY SH!T. wow thats the first time i have seen that. I like it its soooooo purdeee. If it were not $800 i would think about looking into one, but for now ill use my xbox with my sata hds. lol i wish Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/126454-is-it-too-late-to-buy-a-ps2/page/2/#findComment-1520881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdkaneda Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 ps2: ~ 60 million sales worldwide xbox and gamecube COMBINED: ~ 20 million it wouldn't even matter if the ps2 was HALF the power of an xbox. if you're a game developer, more people owning ps2s mean more people you can market your game to. that's why sony has more games and (arguably) better games on average. that's why microsoft and nintendo have to shop and make deals with developers just to get a decent game on their respective systems. if you have no consoles and you're looking to buy one, it's no question which one you want to buy first. i'd even try waiting until march if you can to buy any console. they always seem to drop in price around 20 bucks or so every march. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/126454-is-it-too-late-to-buy-a-ps2/page/2/#findComment-1520882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groovedude Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 The xbox isnt a games console its more like a hench and big pc. all its missing is a monitor a keyboard and a mouse. oh and the PSX, thats a game console isnt it :laugh: :huh: just grabbed a tivo box and put some ps2 bits in it :blink: Sony only sell there PS.. because of the past.. if the sega saturn hadn't been a down fall... sony wouldn't of got half its sales... thats why many people my have chose the PS2 over the D.C when it arrived... because more people were into the PS... :huh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/126454-is-it-too-late-to-buy-a-ps2/page/2/#findComment-1520887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkellner Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 (edited) don't spend that much money on **** you don't need. you want to play ps2 games, buy a ps2. you want to record tv and dvd's, stick with your computer. you don't need something that does both, it's pointless and costs way too much. the only reason i don't buy an xbox is every game for xbox that i like is also released for pc.. if it wasn't for this, i probably would grab an xbox. i hate their controllers though. Edited December 27, 2003 by krazie Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/126454-is-it-too-late-to-buy-a-ps2/page/2/#findComment-1520891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.will Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 are there any monthly fees for any ps2 games Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/126454-is-it-too-late-to-buy-a-ps2/page/2/#findComment-1520898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groovedude Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 it only plays jap ps2 games? yeah its a japenese model... ;) *import* Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/126454-is-it-too-late-to-buy-a-ps2/page/2/#findComment-1520901 Share on other sites More sharing options...
himal00 Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 oh and the PSX, thats a game console isnt it just grabbed a tivo box and put some ps2 bits in it Sony only sell there PS.. because of the past.. if the sega saturn hadn't been a down fall... sony wouldn't of got half its sales... thats why many people my have chose the PS2 over the D.C when it arrived... because more people were into the PS... [/code][/GOOGLE] Well i wasnt takin bout the psx i was talkin bout the ps2 AND the psx is not big. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/126454-is-it-too-late-to-buy-a-ps2/page/2/#findComment-1520903 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caelamia Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 I have both an Xbox and a PS2, and I hardly play the PS2 now. It's currently on loan to a member of my family, so that shows how much I play it! I've just gotten bored of it. I think I'll wait for FFX-2 (if we in the UK ever get it) and that will probably be one of the last games I get for the console. Only have 5 games for my Xbox, but I love it. About 14 or 15 for my PS2, but it's getting old now. Well, the original guy asked if he should get a PS2, not which is best. I think yes. Despite what people say about it being released early, I still forsee Q2 2005 release. Of course, this all depends when the other 2 companies bring their consoles out. I don't have a Cube, but I know someone who does. I can't say I'm overly fond of them and anxious to buy one for myself, but different things suit different people. :) Pros of the PS2: - A great library of games. - It's broadband compatible. - Also usable as a DVD player right away (unlike Xboxes, which need a DVD kit or a mod chip). - The EyeToy is supposed to be good fun. - Backwards compatible with PS1 games. Cons of the PS2: - They're still relatively expensive. - Looking old and dated now. - There are fewer "smash hit, must have" games released recently than there used to be. - They tend to be the "left behind" console these days. By this I mean, when there is a multi-platform game out (eg. Soul Calibur 2), the PS2 version tends to be the worst. Hope that helps. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/126454-is-it-too-late-to-buy-a-ps2/page/2/#findComment-1520909 Share on other sites More sharing options...
himal00 Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 oh and the PSX, thats a game console isnt it just grabbed a tivo box and put some ps2 bits in it Sony only sell there PS.. because of the past.. if the sega saturn hadn't been a down fall... sony wouldn't of got half its sales... thats why many people my have chose the PS2 over the D.C when it arrived... because more people were into the PS... I WASNT TALKIN ABOUT THE PS2 IN THE FIRST PLACE AND THE PSX ISNT BIG Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/126454-is-it-too-late-to-buy-a-ps2/page/2/#findComment-1520912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groovedude Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 Panthlike in my opinion u shuld buy a ps2. Ps2s never go out of date! They updated them now do they have an ir reciever and a quieter fan and it has the ability to play dvd r and rw. I agree with stezo2k. The xbox isnt a games console its more like a hench and big pc. all its missing is a monitor a keyboard and a mouse. I own a ps2 myself and i have played xbox but i preferred ps2 much more. The xbox is cheaper but thts only becos microsoft were missing out on sales! I also think the xbox is a rip off as u have to buy tthe remote for the xbox just to enable dvd playback. Xbox do an supscription service for online play but with ps2 get the network adapter and a configure it and ur ready nto go. No extra costs. Ps2 always gets the best games first and only now xbox is getting gta 3 and vice city which is one of the best games ever made! Xbox may have betta graphics but who wants a chunky xbox which weighs 8 pounds? when u can have a sleek satin silver or a black ps2. If u want more than tht in a games machine waoit till nxt yr when the ps2s sucessor come the PSX. Its not the first one but a reallly updated ps2. Heres a pic of it. Its has a built in tv tuner built in broadband adapter, space for a memory stick, come in 5 different colours, comes with a remote, a dvd recorder built into the PSX and either a 160gb or 250 gb hard drive. Wat more could u want? Hope I helped!himal00-Posted: Dec 27 2003, 21:03 I WASNT TALKIN ABOUT THE PS2 IN THE FIRST PLACE AND THE PSX ISNT BIG not talking about the PS2 much !!!..... and who cares about how much a game console ways.. its only supposed to sit next to the t.v it's not a frigging Game Boy Advance :laugh: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/126454-is-it-too-late-to-buy-a-ps2/page/2/#findComment-1520927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebsh Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 more people were into the PS... I WASNT TALKIN ABOUT THE PS2 IN THE FIRST PLACE AND THE PSX ISNT BIG on my if you think PSX isn't big look at sony japans site and look at the dimensions... it's a tad bit bigger then the xbox! 外形寸法 312?323?88mm(幅?高さ?奥行/縦置き時、最大突起含む) thats 31.2x32.2x8.8cm! or for english 14 inches long 14 inches wide and 4 inches high! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/126454-is-it-too-late-to-buy-a-ps2/page/2/#findComment-1520938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebsh Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 also, PS3 was announced to be designed very similary to XBOX, so stop complaining about xbox being a computer, you can't even directly convert xbox back into a computer system easily... it's a majorly modified system, just bacause it has a nvidia chipset, graphics card and an intel processor doesn't mean its exactly the same as the thing sitting on ur desk... as for PS3... they're going to be following the computer type system based way that xbox used to design it.. read up on PS3 and you will find that out... and for other consoles... they're just as a computer as xbox is! what chip or how the bus is designed doesn't make a computer a computer or a console diffrent from a computer... they're all computers Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/126454-is-it-too-late-to-buy-a-ps2/page/2/#findComment-1520943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellBender Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 lol you can't even directly convert xbox back into a computer system easily<sarcasm>You're right.. it takes a full torturous five minutes to install a heavy, expensive mod chip into there.. and the linux that you can install on there isnt the same as the linux you can install on a PC :rolleyes: </sarcasm>and for other consoles... they're just as a computer as xbox is! what chip or how the bus is designed doesn't make a computer a computer or a console diffrent from a computer... they're all computers You're right, I sure love my linux PS2 box :yes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/126454-is-it-too-late-to-buy-a-ps2/page/2/#findComment-1520948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groovedude Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 Ok im not going to say anymore... PS2 may suit other people Xbox may suit other people enough said... ! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/126454-is-it-too-late-to-buy-a-ps2/page/2/#findComment-1520954 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebsh Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 lol<sarcasm>You're right.. it takes a full torturous five minutes to install a heavy, expensive mod chip into there.. and the linux that you can install on there isnt the same as the linux you can install on a PC :rolleyes: </sarcasm> You're right, I sure love my linux PS2 box :yes: well.. the PS3 from all the stuff I read will be running on a standard processor similar to XBOX and be running on an embedded os like xbox (some people say linux, some say a custom os) which to me is exactly like xbox, considering its doing that same thing... as for the modding, anything that involves changeing hardware like that or soldering onto a motherboard is a heavy modification to me... it does take skill to solder especialy at SMD (surface mount devices) levels like that... and of course linux on xbox is gona be diffrent then on a standard x86 system... you have to deal with a lot of the embedded code MS put in the system... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/126454-is-it-too-late-to-buy-a-ps2/page/2/#findComment-1520960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stezo2k Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 hehe, lemme guess, you own a PS2? i own both actually Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/126454-is-it-too-late-to-buy-a-ps2/page/2/#findComment-1521040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
himal00 Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 Alrite blubsh i didnt no it was tht big! Anyway i dnt really care i was jus givin the person my view. lol. Im fine with my ps2 at the mo. Have they released any info on the xbox 2? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/126454-is-it-too-late-to-buy-a-ps2/page/2/#findComment-1521063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXclusive Posted December 27, 2003 Share Posted December 27, 2003 I got a PS2 and a Xbox .... ( I am spoiled i know ) But i rarely use them, i use my PC most ... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/126454-is-it-too-late-to-buy-a-ps2/page/2/#findComment-1521085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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