E3 2016 Microsoft Press Conference Discussion

[MikeChipshop Member]

http://www.xbox.com/xboxdesignlab Isn't live yet. Boo

[George P Global Moderator]

It hasn't been talked about much but the new controllers that come with the S having Bluetooth is a nice bonus, so not only do you get cross-play/buy and the ability to jump between devices, but now you can use the same controller, as long as you have Bluetooth that is.

[George P Global Moderator]

They let you design the controller, it'd be crazy if they let you design your limited edition 2TB S as well.

[LaP]

19 minutes ago, George P said:

It hasn't been talked about much but the new controllers that come with the S having Bluetooth is a nice bonus, so not only do you get cross-play/buy and the ability to jump between devices, but now you can use the same controller, as long as you have Bluetooth that is.

That's cool gonna buy one for my PC when my 360 controller dongle will die.

[George P Global Moderator]

pre-orders are open, you can get your limited edition 2TB S now.

[LaP]

27 minutes ago, Audioboxer said:

Canadian prices? lol (449 for 1TB)

 

https://www.amazon.ca/Xbox-One-500GB-Console-Bundle/dp/B01GW3GY3K/ref=sr_1_2_twi_gam_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1465841895&sr=8-2&keywords=xbox+one+s

???

 

300 USD = 380 CAD.

[George P Global Moderator]

Crackdown 3 delayed to 2017, shame.

[vcfan]

wait, what happened to the streaming devices? lol

[George P Global Moderator]

8 minutes ago, vcfan said:

wait, what happened to the streaming devices? lol

Yeah, maybe they're holding off for Gamescom?  I hear that they're not talking about all the software side stuff either.

[George P Global Moderator]

Halo Wars is getting a definitive edition for Xbox and PC as well.

 

http://www.polygon.com/e3/2016/6/13/11924012/halo-wars-1-remastered-xbox-one-windows-10-pc?utm_campaign=polygon&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

[dipsylalapo Supervisor]

I saw a few people saying that the Xbox One S is DOA, but don't forgot it's going to be a big investment. To make the most of it you're going to need probably a new TV (4K/HDR), new console and possibly a VR headset (if you wanna go all in). All of that kit is not going to be cheap. 

 

Whilst the idea of a new console is great, I don't, currently, have the space or need to buy a 4K TV. Unless there's another compelling reason. I'll be sticking with my One.

 

The idea of VR may tempt me, but I'll have to see how that pans out. I've been foolish twice already with the Kinect, whilst great lost support fairly quickly.

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

2 minutes ago, dipsylalapo said:

I saw a few people saying that the Xbox One S is DOA, but don't forgot it's going to be a big investment. To make the most of it you're going to need probably a new TV (4K/HDR), new console and possibly a VR headset (if you wanna go all in). All of that kit is not going to be cheap. 

 

Whilst the idea of a new console is great, I don't, currently, have the space or need to buy a 4K TV. Unless there's another compelling reason. I'll be sticking with my One.

 

The idea of VR may tempt me, but I'll have to see how that pans out. I've been foolish twice already with the Kinect, whilst great lost support fairly quickly.

Even at 6TFLOPs 60FPS at 4K will be a challenge.

 

The best thing about Scorpio would be a great looking game at a locked 1080/60 to be honest. Not 4k at 30FPS or 4K at an unlocked 60FPS. People underestimate how tough it is to push 4K in a game.

 

Or even a slightly higher res downsampled to 1080p.

[dipsylalapo Supervisor]

5 minutes ago, Audioboxer said:

Even at 6TFLOPs 60FPS at 4K will be a challenge.

 

The best thing about Scorpio would be a great looking game at a locked 1080/60 to be honest. Not 4k at 30FPS or 4K at an unlocked 60FPS. People underestimate how tough it is to push 4K in a game.

 

Or even a slightly higher res downsampled to 1080p.

No doubt, just taking the words from the conf "true 4K gaming"  I'd be surprised if they're able to hit that kinda fidelity but we'll see.

[+Audioboxer Subscriber²]

1 minute ago, dipsylalapo said:

No doubt, just taking the words from the conf "true 4K gaming"  I'd be surprised if they're able to hit that kinda fidelity but we'll see.

Buzzword for now.  Indie stuff hitting 4k/60? Yeah sure. AAA games depending on scope however will be a test. Just look at PC gaming for evidence.

[George P Global Moderator]

Depends how optimized you can get it and the type of game.   At 6teraflops and that 320GB/s bandwidth, if those hold true, we're looking at better than a Geforce 1070.    If you look at some 1070 benchmarks, though the highest resolution I've seen tested is 3840x2160, not the higher of the two "4k" standards it's still 4k, and what we're looking at when gaming.  The Geforce 1070 can run a game like Witcher 3 at max settings around ~40fps,  it wouldn't take much at that point to tweak some settings/levels from "ultra" to "high" and hit 60fps.

 

This is just a rough example, the 1070 is around the same level teraflops wise but it's got a slower memory speed, either way, we're a year+ out, anything can happen, and we have no idea about the CPU side of things either.   I think it's possible to do 4k gaming on it, maybe not looking as equal to 4k on the PC but pretty close once developers fully optimize and do what they do with consoles.

[BajiRav]

4 hours ago, dipsylalapo said:

I saw a few people saying that the Xbox One S is DOA, but don't forgot it's going to be a big investment. To make the most of it you're going to need probably a new TV (4K/HDR), new console and possibly a VR headset (if you wanna go all in). All of that kit is not going to be cheap. 

 

Whilst the idea of a new console is great, I don't, currently, have the space or need to buy a 4K TV. Unless there's another compelling reason. I'll be sticking with my One.

 

The idea of VR may tempt me, but I'll have to see how that pans out. I've been foolish twice already with the Kinect, whilst great lost support fairly quickly.

I am finally looking to get back into gaming again come this fall so Xbox One S is what I will go with. I wonder how many 360 users like me are out there who are just looking into getting one this year.

[dipsylalapo Supervisor]

If anyone is interested

 

Register for the closed Gwent (Closed Beta) - link

 

Register for Halo Wars 2 (Open Beta) - link

[George P Global Moderator]

Original Phantom Dust is getting a remaster, and new Phantom Dust is coming in 2017.

[Vandalsquad]

12 hours ago, Audioboxer said:

Buzzword for now.  Indie stuff hitting 4k/60? Yeah sure. AAA games depending on scope however will be a test. Just look at PC gaming for evidence.

I'll put money on Turn10 and Forza 7 being a launch title achieving it if Microsoft say its capable of 4K 

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Just finished work and watching a repeat of the show! E3 mains are on at 2am in Australia and with work at 5am it makes it a bit unwatchable.

 

Completely blown away by Forza Horizon!! GOTY and that's only having watched the trailer. I've driven all the roads shown and never seen anything like it. Finally a free world racing game in Australia. Never thought I would see the day. I've already pre-ordered the Ultimate edition ($140AU) and I've never pre-ordered a game in my life. I don't even like to think about the amount of money I would lay down to play this but. Incredible.

 

I didn't think Microsoft would go as crazy with information and showing of the Scorpio as they did at all maybe only a mention when it came out Sony had pulled the Neo from showing. Must be incredibly confident Sony can't match at such short notice and already have their parts locked in with the release this year or confident they can beat it again if they do. Will be interesting to see them return serve now. 

 

4K gaming out of the box, will be day one purchase for me.

 

DR4

State Of Decay

Gears 4

Sea of Thieves will all be purchases, hopefully I've sunk enough time into Forza when these have released. One of the best line-ups I've seen. Off to watch the Sony event now.

 

Edit - Some game play.

 

 

Edited June 14, 2016 by Vandalsquad

[George P Global Moderator]

 

[DrunknMunky Veteran]

Not very good that they're already confusing the message with regards to Scorpio exclusives! So much for "No one is left behind"

[dipsylalapo Supervisor]

3 minutes ago, Andrew said:

Not very good that they're already confusing the message with regards to Scorpio exclusives! So much for "No one is left behind"

May not have been to clear in the conference but Aaron Greenberg made it clear that games will be made for both Scorpio and the One. The only option is if they take full advantage of Scorpio.

[DrunknMunky Veteran]

3 minutes ago, dipsylalapo said:

May not have been to clear in the conference but Aaron Greenberg made it clear that games will be made for both Scorpio and the One. The only option is if they take full advantage of Scorpio.

It definitely wasn't clear, because Greenberg didn't set foot on the stage Shannon Loftis is confusing their message, as seen on YT.

 

 

[dipsylalapo Supervisor]

Just now, Andrew said:

It definitely wasn't clear, because Greenberg didn't set foot on the stage Shannon Loftis is confusing their message, as seen on YT.

 

 

Yep Greenberg was post conference. Loftis needs to learn the facts  

[DrunknMunky Veteran]

Just now, dipsylalapo said:

Yep Greenberg was post conference. Loftis needs to learn the facts  

They cannot afford to slip back to 2013's confusion, so I hope there are no nasty surprises when we are closer to launch.