Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House

[LittleFroggy]

So the DNC, who.. supported Clinton, who dealt Uranium to Russia, in exchange for Clinton Foundation donations, says Russians hacked the election? When Obama even stated the Election results were legit and to let the election results stand.

 

When a DNC staffer leaked emails, was shot dead in DC ( he was robbed but his wallet and cell phone were still on him )  while we found out the DNC "stiffed" Bernie Sanders to get Hillary Clinton into the General election, All the while.. Debbie Wasserman Schultz quit as DNC's head ONLY, to be hired By Hillary Clinton's campaign going into the general election, While.. They leaked more emails From Podesta about all the criminal activities from the DNC/Hillary/Podesta and such.

 

First and foremost, If you're being hacked, there's Cyber forensics of tracing IP Addresses and no one up to this point from Obama to the NSA have proven anything in terms of proof exists. until then.. Obama and the "The russians did people" need to put up the proof or shut up.

[DocM]

Don't forget that the software "proving" the hacks are Russian can be bought for 1-2 bitcoins on the DarkWeb. Some of these tools tools are Ukrainian (another possible can of worms) and anyone can insert the text "identifying" the software by editing the source code. Not to mention IP spoofing etc. 

 

They can infer a lot, but so far proof is slim. And the hack was discovered in 2013 but it took the govt. until 2015 to get the DNC to take it seriously. RNC itself wasnt hacked, just a 3rd party site with old data. 

[LittleFroggy]

here's a former ambassador of the UK, in the US at the time received emails from a DNC insider.. it was a disgruntled DNC staffer.. 

 

Ex-British Ambassador: I Know Who Leaked DNC Emails — It Wasn't Russia

 

[wakjak]

1 hour ago, LittleFroggy said:

who dealt Uranium to Russia, in exchange for Clinton Foundation donations

proof?

And did you forget that the Uranium deal went through 15 different agencies in government? 

[LittleFroggy]

3 minutes ago, wakjak said:

proof?

And did you forget that the Uranium deal went through 15 different agencies in government? 

 

 

outside source with links and other documents and here: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html?smid=fb-share&_r=0

[wakjak]

6 minutes ago, LittleFroggy said:

outside source with links and other documents and here: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html?smid=fb-share&_r=0

One's a blog. Fail.

 

Next.

From your own link.

 

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Whether the donations played any role in the approval of the uranium deal is unknown.

fail.

 

next.

[LittleFroggy]

1 minute ago, SpyCatcher said:

If there was any real evidence it should be made available. The real question, what did the Clinton's do to enraged Putin, that would cause him to turn on the corrupt Clinton's? 

 

the war in Syria is my guess? 

 

[LittleFroggy]

23 minutes ago, wakjak said:

One's a blog. Fail.

 

Next.

From your own link.

 

fail.

 

next.

 

 

then prove that it didn't happen. There are article NY times, but you ask people to prove, I don't have to prove anything. I showed you the evidence. I refuse to get into a left>right>alt-right debate. 

 

[wakjak]

3 minutes ago, LittleFroggy said:

then prove that it didn't happen. There are article NY times, but you ask people to prove, I don't have to prove anything. I showed you the evidence. I refuse to get into a left>right>alt-right debate. 

 

You're the one making the claim that it did happen. You showed no evidence that what you said happened. As I quoted the relevant part to you. You don't have to get into a debate when you lose.

[DocM]

23 hours ago, wakjak said:

You're the one making the claim that it did happen. You showed no evidence that what you said happened. As I quoted the relevant part to you. You don't have to get into a debate when you lose.

He can't "lose" to a totally closed mind. 

 

 

[wakjak]

2 hours ago, DocM said:

He can't "lose" to a totally closed mind. 

 

 

Sure he can. Your opinion isn't the be all, end all. Thanks for playing.

[SierraSonic]

On ‎1‎/‎5‎/‎2017 at 1:52 PM, LittleFroggy said:

then prove that it didn't happen. 

 

You can't prove something doesn't exist.

 

2 hours ago, DocM said:

He can't "lose" to a totally closed mind. 

 

 

Wow.

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For instance, Barack Obama’s administration groundlessly accuses Russia of hacking, knowingly ignoring the fact that main servers are located in the United States and are used by Washington for intelligence and other purposes, aimed at maintaining its predominance in the world," Patrushev said.

 

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24 minutes ago, Mirumir said:

 

...says Russian Security Council Secretary Nikolai Patrushev.  

 

What does the servers in the US have to do with anything.  Doesn't Patrushev understand how the internet works?  Such a information deprived article.

[DocM]

On 1/5/2017 at 2:27 PM, SpyCatcher said:

If there was any real evidence it should be made available. The real question, what did the Clinton's do to enraged Putin, that would cause him to turn on the corrupt Clinton's? 

There are many things, but encouraging Obama to undercut Russia's main client state in the Middle East, Syria, where Russia has its only Mediterranean naval facility (Tartus) might do it. 

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There was a whole series of upsetting incidents starting with Yugoslavia. But the Ukraine was the tipping point.

 

 

 

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[TPreston]

5 minutes ago, Mirumir said:

 

Kindergarten level arguments;

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14 minutes ago, TPreston said:

Kindergarten level arguments;

Talking about the CIA and their accusations, I tend to agree.

 

"Kindergarten level evidence" - "we said so, so it must be true, and you must believe what we say."

 

The video clip is just for the entertainment. 

[TPreston]

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/article127231799.html

[LittleFroggy]

 

this will be next on their agenda..

[wakjak]

5 hours ago, LittleFroggy said:

 

this will be next on their agenda..

A story from 1 year ago in a tabloid?

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SEYMOUR HERSH BLASTS MEDIA FOR UNCRITICALLY PROMOTING RUSSIAN HACKING STORY

 

PULITZER PRIZE-WINNING journalist Seymour Hersh said in an interview that he does not believe the U.S. intelligence community proved its case that President Vladimir Putin directed a hacking campaign aimed at securing the election of Donald Trump. He blasted news organizations for lazily broadcasting the assertions of U.S. intelligence officials as established facts.

 

Hersh denounced news organizations as “crazy town” for their uncritical promotion of the pronouncements of the director of national intelligence and the CIA, given their track records of lying and misleading the public.

 

“The way they behaved on the Russia stuff was outrageous"....

 

“It’s high camp stuff,” Hersh told The Intercept. “What does an assessment mean? It’s not a national intelligence estimate. If you had a real estimate, you would have five or six dissents. One time they said 17 agencies all agreed. Oh really? The Coast Guard and the Air Force — they all agreed on it? And it was outrageous and nobody did that story. An assessment is simply an opinion. If they had a fact, they’d give it to you. An assessment is just that. It’s a belief. And they’ve done it many times.”

 

Hersh also questioned the timing of the U.S. intelligence briefing of Trump on the Russia hack findings. “They’re taking it to a guy that’s going to be president in a couple of days, they’re giving him this kind of stuff, and they think this is somehow going to make the world better?

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Putin's Press Secretary Peskov: Big mistake to think Trump is 'our' man, he is 'America's

 

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CNBC Commentary: Why the Russia scandal will hurt Democrats more than Trump

 

As I travel the country reporting on injustice and life-or-death situations like big oil trampling on Standing Rock and lead-poisoning clouding minority communities in Flint and East Chicago, Indiana, I've been met by a painful smack of cognitive dissonance.

 

Establishment Democrats and some Republicans have made a collective mad dash to the cameras to convince the American people that Russia is the source of all of our ills.

 

Aiding them is the corporate media industrial complex, whose engines are humming along ferociously, offering 24/7 cable news airwaves and print columns to hyperventilate over Russia influencing our elections—allegations still unaccompanied by incontrovertible evidence—and the scary, big bear that is President Donald Trump's inner circle holding untoward calls with Russian officials.

 

Meanwhile, the blue-collar workers, millennials, and former Obama voters who abandoned Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party in November, remain standing alone at the dance, with scarce outreach to them other than email blasts spinning Trump controversies into donation requests.

 

Instead, the corporate Democrats are sticking with their failed election campaign strategy: demonize and oppose Trump at all ends, making him so unpalatable to the majority of  Americans, that they'll have no choice but to vote for Democrats.

 

Ask Clinton how that worked out.

 

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[wakjak]