Considering the purchase of a used or maybe new PS4 or PS4 Pro - Any dangers or risks to know about?

[DevTech]

Considering the purchase of a used or maybe new PS4 or PS4 Pro - Any dangers or risks to know about?

 

I really want an Xbox One X but I rarely have time for games and the rest of the family likes the Sony exclusives...

 

Damn Console Exclusives!

 

- What is better value, PS4 or PS4 Pro?

 

- How close is PS5 and will it play PS4 games?

 

- Overheating?

 

- Other common defects?

 

- Any issues with used consoles? Can they be blacklisted?

 

- Etc - ANy possible "gotchas" I might miss?

 

 

 

 

[+virtorio MVC]

The PS4 Pro runs hotter than the regular PS4, and up until some recent hardware revisions, it can be incredibly loud, as-in vacuum cleaner loud, so I'd be cautious about buying a second hand one of those.

 

No official PS5 details yet, but there are developers actively working on games for it right now and it's assumed it'll be out in 2020, and there's some talk that it will play PS4 games (same for whatever the next Microsoft console is) as it'll be based mostly on the same architecture and software environment.

[DevTech]

Thanks for all help.

 

The games this unit would play are:

 

1. Spiderman

2. Kingdom Hearts 3

3. Uncharted 4

4. Horizon New Dawn

5. Maybe one of the new Final Fantasy titles coming in 2019

 

Do any of them need a Pro?

 

Is the only use for a Pro the 4K upscaling? (I am assuming that it is impossible for old gen GPUs to do real time triangle processing of complex meshes at 4K)

 

 

 

[+virtorio MVC]

Nothing "needs" a Pro, but some games (especially newer ones) certainly make worthwhile use of the extra resources. I'd go check out some Digital Foundry comparison videos and see if it's worth it for you.

[DevTech]

8 minutes ago, virtorio said:

Nothing "needs" a Pro, but some games (especially newer ones) certainly make worthwhile use of the extra resources. I'd go check out some Digital Foundry comparison videos and see if it's worth it for you.

Thanks for the link (virtually)

 

I like to read information - much faster - so I avoid Youtube and sometimes I miss out on stuff because of that...

 

Digital Foundry:

https://www.youtube.com/user/DigitalFoundry

 

So, interesting site. And OMG the comments section is a vast sea of creatures that you know must be real humans but there is little evidence of that from what they type...

 

Spiderman:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2wr7vebb6Y

 

PS4 Pro vs Xbox One X vs PC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm1NsxHKgVA

 

 

 

My conclusions:

 

1. Exclusive games are really really frustrating and it actually seems like a complete lack of integrity to award Game of The Year to any game that is not widely available on every device. As if the Academy Awards had Movie of the Year that you could only see in 1/3 of theaters due to special projectors or whatever. 

 

2. 4K is not the reason to consider (or eliminate) the X or the Pro since current gen consoles actually are challenged to meet FHD at 60 FPS.

 

3. PC gaming needs some sort of industry effort to make a $400 video card a valid consumer choice over consoles in terms of ease of use, availability of ALL games in native non-ported form, whatever industry support needed to make it a valid sales target and "equal opportunity" online player - i.e. universal cross-play - a lot to ask, but getting standards in place have been done before... It is absolutely crazy that a completely avid gamer would need to buy a PC with advanced video card, a PS4, an XBox One and a Nintedo Switch and have all that equipment piled high in his/her living room, just to be even able to run a particular game in 2018.

 

 

 

[DevTech]

I notice that there seems to be less than a $100 difference for the Pro.

 

Did this drop recently? And does that make the Pro a much better "Value"?

[Skiver Veteran]

There are rumours out there that the PS5 will drop in 2019, there's nothing official on that though so it's always a risk no matter what. My personal expectation is that MS have been doing well since the release of the X and with MS pretty much confirming another new console for 2020, Sony will want to try and get in before MS on this one so I'm inclined to believe the rumours.

 

Other than that, I'm an Xbox guy so I can't really comment on anything else, enjoy your new console whatever you buy

 

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

On 12/11/2018 at 5:28 AM, virtorio said:

Nothing "needs" a Pro

PSVR is a LOT better with a Pro

[dipsylalapo Supervisor]

13 hours ago, DevTech said:

I notice that there seems to be less than a $100 difference for the Pro.

 

Did this drop recently? And does that make the Pro a much better "Value"?

Could have been the recent sales?

 

From what I've read online, the additional cost of a Pro may not necessarily be justified. Besides running hotter/louder, it doesn't achieve full 4K  and instead uses checker boarding(?)

 

If you want the latest and greatest, get the Pro, but if you just want to enjoy the exclusives you could save a bit and go for the regular PS4. 

 

As Skiver mentioned, it's likely that the PS5 is around the corner so get the PS4 and put what you saved towards a PS5. You'd hope it would be BC with PS4 so your games would get a nice little bump.