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I've decided to erase creepy uncle Google from my life and thus have everything Google blocked on a router/browser level. However, I'm unable to post any comments on your news feed because my router/browser is going crazy blocking all the crap from Google you have in place.

 

apis.google.com

ajax.googleapis.com

fonts.googleapis.com

www.google.com

 

Why is all this crap from Google necessary so the thing even runs? I really like Neowin as source of news and I often comment on things, but now it has become a complete no go because your site seems to depend on Google stuff so heavily you can't use it unless you basically hand over your entire life to it and trust their pinky promise of privacy.

3 minutes ago, RejZoR said:

I've decided to erase creepy uncle Google from my life and thus have everything Google blocked on a router/browser level. However, I'm unable to post any comments on your news feed because my router/browser is going crazy blocking all the crap from Google you have in place.

 

apis.google.com

ajax.googleapis.com

fonts.googleapis.com

www.google.com

 

Why is all this crap from Google necessary so the thing even runs? I really like Neowin as source of news and I often comment on things, but now it has become a complete no go because your site seems to depend on Google stuff so heavily you can't use it unless you basically hand over your entire life to it and trust their pinky promise of privacy.

Analytics, font rendering, ads.  They aren’t going to change it, and honestly they don’t need to. 

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google provides more than analytics; they provide live updating directories for web developers for fonts, APIs, jquery libraries ect.

ajax is part of jquery and it's essential to many of this site's live scripts such as FPN comments section and the mini-spy

 

none of those listed in your post are analytics they are those that I mentioned

 

by blocking all of google you're blocking more than just ads and analytics

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9 minutes ago, RejZoR said:

I've decided to erase creepy uncle Google from my life and thus have everything Google blocked on a router/browser level. However, I'm unable to post any comments on your news feed because my router/browser is going crazy blocking all the crap from Google you have in place.

 

apis.google.com

ajax.googleapis.com

fonts.googleapis.com

www.google.com

 

Why is all this crap from Google necessary so the thing even runs? I really like Neowin as source of news and I often comment on things, but now it has become a complete no go because your site seems to depend on Google stuff so heavily you can't use it unless you basically hand over your entire life to it and trust their pinky promise of privacy.

Tinfoil hat on there pretty tight there. 

 

Ajax frameworks is probably why you can't do anything... google what Ajax is if you want to know why, but it's basically scripting that any site uses nowadays, Google just happens to have some nice packages that provide a good base to build off. 

 

Google scraping what fonts your browser renders and frameworks to generate the look and feel of a page? Shock. Horror. You'll probably have half the internet broken for you which such an encompassing block.

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@shockz

Why is it necessary to always put down people who don't like totally creepy behavior from mega corporations? Just because everyone just carelessly and without any kind of doubt uses Google doesn't mean they are absolutely harmless totally not creepy mega company. Just like you don't report all your happenings in your real every day life to some company that you have no relation with, how is this situation with Google any different? And my life is pretty good without any Google in my life, thank you very much. Like, literally no different because there is bunch of really good services that are not centralized to a single data hoarder and I have a choice there. I can simply opt using something else instead of Google Maps or GMail. Except with nonsense like this here, where you don't. I wouldn't mind if Neowin used Google's prepackaged code locally. As long as it's not pinging back Google every time, do it as much as you want. Pulling it every time from their servers, that's the problem. Doing so you literally say "Hey Google, this user is now using webpage Neowin". it's how they are building user profiles and selling it to advertisers. How else do you think Google makes billions every year? Magic? Would you be ok that such activity would constantly be leaving a trail behind you everywhere you go and is handing it over to a company whose services you don't even need, want or use? Just like I don't use Facebook and I don't want their stupid Like buttons and other beacons trailing me around, I expect the same thing from Google. Or at least have such ability. Yet that seems to be incredibly hard with mentality like this here and with amount of webpages that are doing this. One thing is having an option like with facebook where I just block their ###### and nothing changes outside of their services, other is, not having one where they shove or "graciously" hand over to users to shove in. I guess you guys would just prefer if I simply don't use Neowin anymore. Problem solved? Sure. Doable. But is that really the way? I think not. No page should ever put user into such position with a 3rd party that's entirely unrelated to you other than providing snippets of easy code to shove into a webpage. If problem was in Neowin itself, I'd say screw it and I'd bugger off. But it's not. It's the 3rd party f**king it up. That's my problem. And only problem. And don't think I'm running some personal vendetta against Neowin here. I've asked LinusTechTips why their forum runs graphic buttons like "Reply" and "Quote" from Google servers as well. Answer was "it's convenient for us". And I have all the buttons missing and replaced with underlying text because of said blocking. I'm visiting tons of forums and theirs is the only one doing this nonsense. And I still like to hang around there despite having messed up buttons, because people there are nice and content is cool. I had a choice and I took it. I'm still there despite broken missing buttons. here, I don't have this luxury. I could accept half broken webpage just the same. But I only have an option of totally working or totally broken. One with google, one without google.

 

It's just funny observing people rage over avast! and Jumpshot for days, but they go like nyaaaaaah when Google is mining and selling their online presence on pretty much every webpage they visit and no one bats an eye. Instead people like me who avoid it and criticize it are called "tin foil hat crazy people". Funny double standards, don't you think?

41 minutes ago, RejZoR said:

@shockz

Why is it necessary to always put down people who don't like totally creepy behavior from mega corporations? Just because everyone just carelessly and without any kind of doubt uses Google doesn't mean they are absolutely harmless totally not creepy mega company. Just like you don't report all your happenings in your real every day life to some company that you have no relation with, how is this situation with Google any different? And my life is pretty good without any Google in my life, thank you very much. Like, literally no different because there is bunch of really good services that are not centralized to a single data hoarder and I have a choice there. I can simply opt using something else instead of Google Maps or GMail. Except with nonsense like this here, where you don't. I wouldn't mind if Neowin used Google's prepackaged code locally. As long as it's not pinging back Google every time, do it as much as you want. Pulling it every time from their servers, that's the problem. Doing so you literally say "Hey Google, this user is now using webpage Neowin". it's how they are building user profiles and selling it to advertisers. How else do you think Google makes billions every year? Magic? Would you be ok that such activity would constantly be leaving a trail behind you everywhere you go and is handing it over to a company whose services you don't even need, want or use? Just like I don't use Facebook and I don't want their stupid Like buttons and other beacons trailing me around, I expect the same thing from Google. Or at least have such ability. Yet that seems to be incredibly hard with mentality like this here and with amount of webpages that are doing this. One thing is having an option like with facebook where I just block their ###### and nothing changes outside of their services, other is, not having one where they shove or "graciously" hand over to users to shove in. I guess you guys would just prefer if I simply don't use Neowin anymore. Problem solved? Sure. Doable. But is that really the way? I think not. No page should ever put user into such position with a 3rd party that's entirely unrelated to you other than providing snippets of easy code to shove into a webpage. If problem was in Neowin itself, I'd say screw it and I'd bugger off. But it's not. It's the 3rd party f**king it up. That's my problem. And only problem. And don't think I'm running some personal vendetta against Neowin here. I've asked LinusTechTips why their forum runs graphic buttons like "Reply" and "Quote" from Google servers as well. Answer was "it's convenient for us". And I have all the buttons missing and replaced with underlying text because of said blocking. I'm visiting tons of forums and theirs is the only one doing this nonsense. And I still like to hang around there despite having messed up buttons, because people there are nice and content is cool. I had a choice and I took it. I'm still there despite broken missing buttons. here, I don't have this luxury. I could accept half broken webpage just the same. But I only have an option of totally working or totally broken. One with google, one without google.

 

It's just funny observing people rage over avast! and Jumpshot for days, but they go like nyaaaaaah when Google is mining and selling their online presence on pretty much every webpage they visit and no one bats an eye. Instead people like me who avoid it and criticize it are called "tin foil hat crazy people". Funny double standards, don't you think?

I'm not saying I like google, or their practices, there's a lot I don't like about them... I'm just not concerned if Google is scraping fonts I'm loading in a browser or utilizing an API. You might as well log off the internet if you're on that level of paranoia with such minutia. 
 

Hope you’re on a VPN, because chances are your ISP is probably also a large media conglomerate, or partnered with one, selling your browsing history, or using it for their own commercial purposes. 

 

PS- Paragraphs would help. 

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2 hours ago, RejZoR said:

I've decided to erase creepy uncle Google from my life and thus have everything Google blocked on a router/browser level. However, I'm unable to post any comments on your news feed because my router/browser is going crazy blocking all the crap from Google you have in place.

 

apis.google.com

ajax.googleapis.com

fonts.googleapis.com

www.google.com

 

Why is all this crap from Google necessary so the thing even runs? I really like Neowin as source of news and I often comment on things, but now it has become a complete no go because your site seems to depend on Google stuff so heavily you can't use it unless you basically hand over your entire life to it and trust their pinky promise of privacy.

If you want unbiased news... go to the associated press or Reuters websites.

@shockz

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I'm just not concerned if Google is scraping fonts I'm loading in a browser or utilizing an API.

Because you think that way. It's not just their good will to offer everyone free fonts that don't even consume any of their bandwidth. It's a company whose sole purpose is making money. Their fonts are fetched on every visit for a very specific purpose of trailing people online and they give them fancy fonts in exchange. It shows how little you have to give users to make them happy and shows the level of ignorance and lack of knowledge by users if they find this so easily acceptable. Not saying you're stupid because you don't see it problematic, I'm just saying you don't really understand mechanism behind it. For you it's just pretty harmless font. Like every casual user thinks as well. But fonts, I don't care. I have it blocked, webpages look slightly different because browser loads default ones. No harm done, I can still use them just fine. Not being able to post a comment at all, that's a bit different, don't you think?

 

Realistically, I'm not really even expecting any one to change anything here, but it doesn't hurt to ask. People are becoming more and more privacy aware and conscious and over time you'll want your webpage to be structured differently. Without such garbage pinging multibillion corporations every time an user visits it and gets punished by entirely unusable webpage if they decide to block it. I guess we said everything that can be said here.

13 minutes ago, RejZoR said:

@shockz

Because you think that way. It's not just their good will to offer everyone free fonts that don't even consume any of their bandwidth. It's a company whose sole purpose is making money. Their fonts are fetched on every visit for a very specific purpose of trailing people online and they give them fancy fonts in exchange.

I'm well aware of that. I honestly just don't care. Background noise in regards to usable metrics. Again, internet minutia. 

 

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For you it's just pretty harmless font. Like every casual user thinks as well. But fonts, I don't care. I have it blocked, webpages look slightly different because browser loads default ones. No harm done, I can still use them just fine. Not being able to post a comment at all, that's a bit different, don't you think?

 

Weird. Disabling things that impact the look and functionality of a webpage all in the name of making sure google doesn't get a hit on a font load that adds to their metrics of usage. It's a font stat. And an IP address. It's just silly to do. Especially when you're using a site designed for, well, exchanging information in an online forum and community. 

 

I get it, it's personal to you now. The big bad google. Sticking it to them, as if it'll make any difference. Have fun with that.

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It's a font stat. And an IP address.

Literally everything you need to trail users even when they aren't even using any of your apps and services. I never asked for their stupid fonts, they are just there. And so is all the other crap they serve. Ignorance really is a bliss... If you just don't give a ######, there isn't any problem. Fun.

 

Shockz visits webpage www.reddit.com. Fonts ping Google with your IP that you've been seen on www.reddit.com accessing them. Shockz visits webpage www.neowin.net and fonts again ping Google that your IP has been seen on www.neowin.net. Shockz goes to linustechtips.com, Google Fonts ping Google that your IP was seen on linustechtips.com. All while not even using Google for anything on purpose like using their maps, GMail or something. It's odd that you don't find this problematic or creepy at all. Would you just so freely allow your local advertisement agency to know every store, coffee shop, car service and car parking payment machine you've ever used by automatic pinging back and make hundreds of thousands of whatever currency you have from that? Not to mention question their privacy policies and care how they handle that data. I think you'd have a problem with that. All people would and have. Because in real world it's somehow ###### super creepy and undesired, but online it's "just pretty harmless fonts".

10 minutes ago, RejZoR said:

Literally everything you need to trail users even when they aren't even using any of your apps and services. I never asked for their stupid fonts, they are just there. And so is all the other crap they serve. Ignorance really is a bliss... If you just don't give a ######, there isn't any problem. Fun.

 

Shockz visits webpage www.reddit.com. Fonts ping Google with your IP that you've been seen on www.reddit.com accessing them. Shockz visits webpage www.neowin.net and fonts again ping Google that your IP has been seen on www.neowin.net. Shockz goes to linustechtips.com, Google Fonts ping Google that your IP was seen on linustechtips.com. All while not even using Google for anything on purpose like using their maps, GMail or something. It's odd that you don't find this problematic or creepy at all. Would you just so freely allow your local advertisement agency to know every store, coffee shop, car service and car parking payment machine you've ever used by automatic pinging back and make hundreds of thousands of whatever currency you have from that? Not to mention question their privacy policies and care how they handle that data. I think you'd have a problem with that. All people would and have. Because in real world it's somehow ###### super creepy and undesired, but online it's "just pretty harmless fonts".

 

So when you go to every store, coffee shop, car service an car parking payment machine do you pay with cash? If you pay with a credit/debit card you're already giving that to your bank when then sells it to a third party....

5 minutes ago, c.grz said:

 

So when you go to every store, coffee shop, car service an car parking payment machine do you pay with cash? If you pay with a credit/debit card you're already giving that to your bank when then sells it to a third party....

Yeah, but I have a choice of paying with card or money. I don't really have a choice of using Neowin without "paying with credit card". If you get the analogy...

4 minutes ago, RejZoR said:

Yeah, but I have a choice of paying with card or money. I don't really have a choice of using Neowin without "paying with credit card". If you get the analogy...

You do have a choice:

 

1. Continue to use Neowin aka Pay with credit/debit

2. Find a site similar to Neowin but that doesn't depend on Google aka Pay with cash

Hey, if you don’t want google in your life then fair play. But using them as a CDN for fonts and scripts is a common practice so get over it. Feel free to browse the web on a text browser.

3 minutes ago, Human.Online said:

Hey, if you don’t want google in your life then fair play. But using them as a CDN for fonts and scripts is a common practice so get over it. Feel free to browse the web on a text browser.

Hilarious mentality. Truly hilarious. Hitler's common practice was to gas the Jews and everyone weren't fine with it. Just because something is commonly practiced, it doesn't make it ok. Why haven't Jews just gotten over it like you say I should eh?

 

Also there is nothing wrong with rich content so your snarky "text browser" comment is rather lame. You won't see me complaining over webpages that are filled with AJAX and custom fonts and all that jazz. But they use it locally. I do have a problem when such content is unnecessarily pinging some 3rd party because it needs to be constantly pulled from 3rd party servers.

 

@c.grz

Your analogy doesn't work. You're giving option between two entirely different things, not two options within one single thing. Not even remotely comparable.

2 minutes ago, RejZoR said:

 

@c.grz

Your analogy doesn't work. You're giving option between two entirely different things, not two options within one single thing. Not even remotely comparable.

I disagree but whatever, won't change the fact that Neowin depends on Google and you want nothing to do with Google.

 

Only two options; find another site or allow Google.

1 hour ago, RejZoR said:

Literally everything you need to trail users even when they aren't even using any of your apps and services. I never asked for their stupid fonts, they are just there. And so is all the other crap they serve. Ignorance really is a bliss... If you just don't give a ######, there isn't any problem. Fun.

 

Shockz visits webpage www.reddit.com. Fonts ping Google with your IP that you've been seen on www.reddit.com accessing them. Shockz visits webpage www.neowin.net and fonts again ping Google that your IP has been seen on www.neowin.net. Shockz goes to linustechtips.com, Google Fonts ping Google that your IP was seen on linustechtips.com. All while not even using Google for anything on purpose like using their maps, GMail or something. It's odd that you don't find this problematic or creepy at all. Would you just so freely allow your local advertisement agency to know every store, coffee shop, car service and car parking payment machine you've ever used by automatic pinging back and make hundreds of thousands of whatever currency you have from that? Not to mention question their privacy policies and care how they handle that data. I think you'd have a problem with that. All people would and have. Because in real world it's somehow ###### super creepy and undesired, but online it's "just pretty harmless fonts".

I guess I just don't care? Google knows I browse neowin.net. Horrifying lol. Not to mention, the IP I'm currently on is utilized by about 6000 other people right now, and the one at home is utilized by 6, and also changes. Not to mention their search bot indexes all posts on this site, just another, more vital and relevant stat on what I do on this site than worrying about a few api calls and font caching.

 

And honestly? The "creepy" methodology of how sites create these metrics is actually quite helpful as it gets more advanced. I often see ads relevant to my interests that contain coupon codes or other deals I'd normally not see if I'm incognito. I guess that really sucks? Damn, I got a deal on something because of my browsing habits. What a let down.

Blocking stuff just to block it and not understanding what it is for or does, isn't very wise.

 

The items you listed are legit services, had you said:

google-analytics.com

googleads.g.doubleclick.net

pagead2.googlesyndication.com

 

Then I might be onboard.

The short answer is that we can't afford to do everything ourselves on the income we get from running this site so we offset some services that Google provide for "free". But rest assured everything we load into pages is required for one reason or another, and we also work hard at ensuring fast loading pages where we can.

 

I think you will come across this problem on most commercial sites though, it isn't limited to Neowin.

 

We are enrolled at Brave and Scroll too which modify our pages for their own purposes (I don't like it, but what you gonna do?) and we have a subscription ($28/year) that strips all ad/tracking content from the whole site. There are options, but we need to keep the lights on for a number of people too :) 

On 2/12/2020 at 10:07 PM, RejZoR said:

Hitler's common practice was to gas the Jews and everyone weren't fine with it.

Aaaaaaand you cited Hitler...  So anything else you say is more nonsense.

 

Cheerio!

On 2/12/2020 at 10:07 PM, RejZoR said:

Why haven't Jews just gotten over it like you say I should eh?

Because the two are completely the same!  OK!

On 2/12/2020 at 10:07 PM, RejZoR said:

your snarky "text browser" comment is rather lame.

But comparing the use of the words most common CDN to gassing Jews is perfectly normal!

On 2/12/2020 at 10:07 PM, RejZoR said:

But they use it locally.

To their detrement.  If you knew anything about CDNs you'd know that.

On 2/12/2020 at 10:07 PM, RejZoR said:

unnecessarily

Nope, you're out of your depth with this comment too!

On 2/12/2020 at 10:07 PM, RejZoR said:

constantly

Again showing how little you understand a CDN.

On 2/12/2020 at 10:07 PM, RejZoR said:

Your analogy doesn't work.

Says the guy who compared the use of a CDN to the holocaust.

On 2/12/2020 at 10:07 PM, RejZoR said:

Not even remotely comparable.

Just, uh... LOL

 

On 2/12/2020 at 6:53 PM, xendrome said:

Blocking stuff just to block it and not understanding what it is for or does, isn't very wise.

 

The items you listed are legit services, had you said:

google-analytics.com

googleads.g.doubleclick.net

pagead2.googlesyndication.com

 

Then I might be onboard.

The thing is, I didn't post any of this because blocking any of this doesn't break anything. So I don't have any issue with it. It's blocked by default for me and that's the end of it. It doesn't break any webpages as a result. Blocking ajax, fonts (partially) and other Google API's however does and that's the issue I have with. If all this was blockable and I could still comment in the comment section, even if in slightly broken form, I'd be fine with it. I do understand reasons why some pages are mildly broken and I accept it, because I'm filtering things from it. But when it totally breaks (as in I can type comment in the field and when I click post, it just hangs on an empty page), the reasons become questionable when some functionality invades webpages inner workings so far it just doesn't work if you remove it. Again, if it was first party thing, I wouldn't have an issue with it. I've accepted to hand over certain information to Neowin by using your website. I didn't do the same for Google on your site because they have nothing to do with Neowin on any level otherwise. I still appreciate honest reply by @aSteveParker . They do it from cost saving reasons and I can't blame them for that, money doesn't just fall from sky to run webpages.

22 hours ago, Riva said:

I hope you are not using Chrome...

Try Decentraleyes and privacy badger out.

Lol, why would I use Chrome and then complain about Google stuff infesting webpages? :D That would be an epic oxymoron. I'm using those two extensions along with few others.

What I find amusing about all this is that it's being made out that it's just Neowin that has become completely broken with these blockages. As has been pointed out, there are going to be plenty of other places that suffer similar issues. I find my opinion on this is much the same as when people report that the site isn't working correctly when they have their adblocker active. If you want to block such things then that's fine, Neowin cannot stop you. But you can't complain that the site is broken when you are the one breaking it for yourself...

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I think this thread has run its course. We at neowin do not condone Ad or Script blocking. We can't stop you if you choose to do so, but if things on the site break in the process then we will not be able to assist you to get around that.
As stated, Neowin uses CDN resources from Google for many of its live scripts to function in a simple manor.

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To control this behavior, use the toggle in Settings > Bluetooth & devices > Printers & scanners > Default install printers using Windows Ready Print. For more information, see Introducing Windows Ready Print and modernized driver selection. For more information, see Introducing Windows Ready Print and Modernized Driver Selection. [Windows Subsystem for Linux (WSL)] The update improves usage of WSL in mirrored networking mode with VPNs. [Display and graphics] Improves the reliability of rendering content while scrolling for certain apps spanning across multiple monitors. Improves the reliability and persistence of applying color profiles. [Location services] This update changes how some location settings are displayed in Settings > Privacy & Security > Location to help with clarity. When location services are turned off, settings like Default location and Allow location override don't immediately apply, since location information is not given to apps or services. These settings will now be greyed out when location services are off to reduce confusion over when they take effect. [Search] This update improves the reliability of setting Search related group policies. [Input] New! You can now customize the size of the right-click zone in Settings > Bluetooth & devices > Touchpad. Choose from default, small, medium, or large to control how much of the bottom-right corner responds to a single-finger right-click. This setting is only available on touchpads with a pressable surface. If your device manufacturer provides customization through their own app, a Custom option will appear to reflect those settings. This update improves recognition of English characters when using Japanese handwriting. [General performance] Improves the time to shut down Background Intelligent Transfer Service (BITS) when you turn off your PC. [General Reliability] ​​​​This update improves the reliability of explorer.exe. 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[Networking] This update improves how your device connects to shared network resources. Connections used by apps and system features, such as the NetUseAdd function, now work more reliably, including unauthenticated (null session) connections. [Recycle Bin (known issue)] Fixed: This update addresses an issue where the confirmation dialog might display an internal Recycle Bin file name instead of the original file name when permanently deleting a file. This issue might occur after installing the June 2026 security update (KB5094126). [Taskbar] This update improves notification badge display across your apps. Notification counts and badge visuals now update correctly, helping you stay up to date with new activity. You can choose to manually download the update from Microsoft's update catalog website at this link.
    • Hands-on with BOOX Tappy: cute little reading accessory by Taras Buria Page turners are quite popular accessories for e-readers, as they enable a hands-free reading experience, which is particularly useful with large readers featuring 10-inch or larger displays. The BOOX Tappy is a new accessory that was introduced earlier this year, and we took this cute-looking thingy for a spin. The Tappy comes in a small box, with two additional buttons and a user manual. The device is made of glossy green plastic and resembles old appliances from the nuclear age. Material quality is great, and each part feels quite premium. Plastic is high-quality, the switch is nice to flick, and the buttons are not rattly. At the bottom, four rubberized feet prevent slipping when used on a desk. Unfortunately, there are no color options, and the Tappy is only available in green. It looks good, but I wish there were other options as well. There are two removable buttons, an on/off switch, and an LED indicator that displays connection mode, charging status, and more. The buttons resemble those of an old typewriter, with quite a long travel distance and a pleasant clack. In the box, you have four buttons with different icons: heart, coffee, O, and X. You can easily swap buttons by simply pulling them upwards. Tip: buttons come with plastic covers, but they are quite tricky to remove. It is hard to call the Tappy the most ergonomic remote control, but after fiddling with it for a few hours, I managed to find a comfortable hand position. Attaching a lanyard to it can make it more comfortable in use without the fear of dropping it, but unfortunately, the Tappy does not come with one. The Tappy connects via Bluetooth 5.2, and it works in three modes, which you can toggle by pressing and holding both buttons for about five seconds: Reading Mode Multimedia Mode Browsing Mode Next / Previous page Next / Previous Track Up / Down scroll If you pair the Tappy with a BOOX device (I tested it with the BOOX Go 10.5 Gen 2 Lumi), you will get small pop-ups indicating the current mode. Plus, you can customize what each button does when pressed one time, two times, or held for a few seconds. The list of available actions and features you can use is massive, and I like that BOOX lets you map stuff like brightness adjustment, app launching, screenshot-taking, screen rotating, navigation, and more. Note, however, that while you can use the Tappy with other readers, its customization is only available on BOOX devices running firmware version 4.2 and newer. I could not connect the Tappy to my computer (Windows 11 claims a driver error when I try), but it worked with the DuRoBo Krono that I recently reviewed. My Kindle Paperwhite refused to work with the Tappy, though, just like my iPhone. The Tappy uses a non-removable Li-Ion battery, which can be recharged with a Type-C cable. BOOX rates the remote for "weeks of use," and I can say that it indeed has very good battery life. While there are no battery indicators on the remote, you can see the current level in the status bar or in Input settings in the BOOX firmware. After a few days of active use, mine still shows about 95%. Overall, the Tappy left a nice impression. It is well-made, and the integration with BOOX devices is great. I also like that BOOX decided to have some fun with its design and swappable buttons. I cannot say I am a fan of its odd shape, though. Still, I managed to find a way to use it comfortably. And when not in use, it just looks neat sitting on the table doing nothing or serving you as a small clacky fidget. Buy BOOX Tappy - $29.99 on Amazon US As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
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    • Passkeys: Think of them like a broken heart necklace. Imagine one of those heart necklaces that breaks into two matching pieces. One person keeps one half, and the other person keeps the other half. With passkeys, the website has one half, and you have the other half. If the website gets hacked and someone steals its half, that stolen piece is useless by itself. It cannot unlock your account without your matching half. This particular heart necklace is one of a kind, there is only one in existence. Your half of the necklace has to be stored somewhere. It might be stored on your phone, tablet, computer, security key, or a password manager that can sync it between all your devices. A security key is a small physical device that you keep with you, kind of like a house key, car key, or flash drive. I would not usually recommend a security key as the first option for the average person. For most people, it is easier to use their phone, computer, or a password manager that can sync passkeys between their devices. A security key is more like a spare key you keep in a safe place, just in case you lose access to your other devices or your password manager. Some security keys plug into your computer. Some plug into your phone or tablet. Some get tapped against your device. The idea is simple: a security key can hold another passkey for the same website. Think of it like creating a second one-of-a-kind heart necklace for the same account. One necklace could be paired with your password manager, while another necklace could be paired with your security key. That means the website has more than one matching half on file. One half matches the passkey in your password manager. Another half matches the passkey stored on your security key. So, if you lose access to your phone, computer, or password manager, you would still be able to log in using the passkey stored on your security key. Think of it like keeping an extra special necklace piece on a tiny keychain, stored somewhere safe. The website still has the matching half for that security key, but your half is safely stored inside the little key. A passkey does not automatically exist on every device you own. It lives wherever you save it. If your half is stored on one device, then that device is the one that has the matching piece. For example, if you create the passkey on your Windows computer and it is only saved to that computer, your iPhone does not automatically have that same half. If you create it on your iPhone and it only stays on that iPhone, your Android phone does not automatically have it either. That is where password managers come in. A password manager can act like a protected jewelry box for your passkeys. Instead of your half of the necklace being locked to only one device, the password manager can securely sync that half to your other approved devices. For example, Apple Passwords and iCloud Keychain can sync passkeys between your Apple devices. Google Password Manager can sync passkeys with your Google account. But password managers such as 1Password and Bitwarden can sync passkeys between everything, your phones, tablets and computers. Now, you might ask: “What happens if I lose access to the device that has my passkey?” That depends on where your passkey was saved and what recovery options the website gives you. If your passkey was synced through a password manager, you may be able to sign in from another device that has access to that same password manager. For example, if your passkey is saved in iCloud Keychain, Google Password Manager, 1Password, or Bitwarden, another approved device may still have access to it. If your passkey was saved only on one phone, computer, or security key, and you lose that device, then you may not have your half of the necklace anymore. In that case, you would usually need to use the website’s backup login or account recovery options. A lot of websites that support passkeys still let you fall back to your regular password. So if you lose access to your passkey, the site may still let you log in with your password, a code sent to your email, a text message, a recovery code, or some other account recovery process. That is convenient, but it is also important to understand: if the website still allows password login, then your password still matters. Passkeys are safer than passwords, but if your account still has a password as a backup, you should still use a strong, unique password and turn on two-factor authentication if the website offers it. This is why it is a good idea to have more than one safe way back into important accounts. For example, you might keep your passkey in a syncing password manager, add a second trusted device, save recovery codes somewhere safe, or set up a backup security key. A passkey is very secure, but just like a real key, you need a backup plan in case you lose access to it. Now, you might ask: “What stops a hacker from copying my half of the necklace?” That’s the important part: your half is protected. It is not something you type in, and it is not something the website gets to keep. Think of your half as being locked inside a tiny safe on your phone, computer, security key, or password manager. That safe only opens when you approve it with your fingerprint, face, PIN, or device password. When you log in, the website does not need to see your half. It only needs proof that your half matches its half. Your actual half is not handed over to the website. This is different from a password. With a password, you type the secret into the website. If you type it into a fake website, the hacker now has it. With a passkey, you are not typing your secret into the website. Your device is proving you have the matching half without giving the half away. That also helps protect you from fake websites. If someone makes a fake login page that looks like the real site, your device can tell it is not the real match. It will not use your passkey there. Now, could someone use your passkey if they stole your device, got into your password manager, or somehow unlocked the safe that holds your half? Yes, that is why your device password, PIN, fingerprint, face unlock, and password manager security still matter. But a hacker cannot just steal your passkey from the website or trick you into typing it into a fake page like they can with a password. That is why passkeys are safer than passwords. The two matching pieces have to come together, like two lovebirds who were once separated and are finally reunited.
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