Could Apple sell more of M1 machines if hardware could be upgrade?

[+Warwagon MVC]

Personally, may consider spending some money on a M1 Mac Mini or on with future Apple Silicon, but not if you can never upgrade the hardware. That's just them being an ass*hole. I'm wondering how many other people would buy one if you could upgrade the hardware?

 

Would anyone else here buy one if you could upgrade the hardware?

[+Biscuits Brown MVC]

Probably not. Most Windows laptops (as you well know) also aren't generally upgradable anymore either so for me, that isn't a factor.  Just never really liked Apple products. Probably still scarred from when I was selling Apple II and III as business machines in 1981.

[+Warwagon MVC]

7 minutes ago, Biscuits Brown said:

Probably not. Most Windows laptops (as you well know) also aren't generally upgradable anymore either so for me, that isn't a factor.  Just never really liked Apple products. Probably still scarred from when I was selling Apple II and III as business machines in 1981.

I don't think MOST aren't upgradeable.  I think the surface crap isn't upgradable. I say crap, because anything that is nonupgradeable for the amount of money you are spending is crap. Now I know other products have never been upgradable, but historically laptops have been, so to all of the sudden go the round of nonupgradable e, is crap!

 

Sadly this is probably how everything will be in the future which is crap, lucky I have a huge collection of used laptops (most pretty old) but some are pretty good. Add 8GB of ram and throw in an SSD and most run pretty good.

 

Per this photo, I still have a large collection of older laptops not pictured.

 

[Depicus]

You are not the target market and nobody bats an eye when they buy a tablet or a tv so for the vast majority of people the lack of upgrade options isn't a problem. There is a small geek community that likes to be able to do things with their property but it's small enough that most manufacturers can ignore. Is it a good thing ? no it's not but as a full on geek I don't think I've upgraded a laptop in the last 10 years but I can still use my 2011 Air or my 2014 MBP which both work just fine today. The need to expand isn't required as much as it was when laptops were in their infancy. 

[+Warwagon MVC]

3 minutes ago, Depicus said:

You are not the target market and nobody bats an eye when they buy a tablet or a tv so for the vast majority of people the lack of upgrade options isn't a problem. There is a small geek community that likes to be able to do things with their property but it's small enough that most manufacturers can ignore. Is it a good thing ? no it's not but as a full on geek I don't think I've upgraded a laptop in the last 10 years but I can still use my 2011 Air or my 2014 MBP which both work just fine today. The need to expand isn't required as much as it was when laptops were in their infancy. 

In the last 10 years you've haven't wanted to replace the slow HDD with an faster SSD? Or do all the laptops already have an HDD.?

[Depicus]

14 hours ago, warwagon said:

In the last 10 years you've haven't wanted to replace the slow HDD with an faster SSD? Or do all the laptops already have an HDD.?

No, the last machine I bought that had a spinning hard drive was in 2007. 

[binaryzero]

But...that's the entire point of an SoC?

[goretsky Supervisor]

Hello,

 

Actually, isn't it the other way around?  Or, won't Apple sell more of the M1-based MacBook Pros because they cannot be easily repaired, and thus require people to purchase new ones? 

 

I suspect the number of Apple  customers who actually care about ease of repairability enough to impact a purchase decision for devices such as these is relatively low.

 

Regards,

 

Aryeh Goretsky

 

[Fraud OS 11]

I feel the storage should at least be expandable with another M.2 NVMe (PCIe Gen 4). It's ok if the RAM isn't upgradeable, as Apple's Unified Memory Architecture is one of the core reasons you are getting superior performance from their SoCs from what many reviews state. The storage isn't even on-die nor in the SoC.

[+Steve B Subscriber²]

On 18/12/2020 at 02:28, goretsky said:

Hello,

 

Actually, isn't it the other way around?  Or, won't Apple sell more of the M1-based MacBook Pros because they cannot be easily repaired, and thus require people to purchase new ones? 

 

I suspect the number of Apple  customers who actually care about ease of repairability enough to impact a purchase decision for devices such as these is relatively low.

 

Regards,

 

Aryeh Goretsky

 

I seem to think that it won't go up or down either way.  I believe you're right in that most Apple users just buy what is preset and use it until they decide they want a newer one.