new pc or gpu?

[sinetheo]

Pre Covid/Bitcoin inflated world I would say avoid OEM pcs at all costs and build on your own. They are all horrible. Unfortunately you are in Canada with no Microcenter nearby unless you want to drive to upstate new york if you are in Ontario. It maybe worth a trip if you are in Toronto to drive to Albany to have them build one for you. Yes a day trip is worth it for not having cheap plastic, real non blow up able power supplies, and real water cooling. But in 2023 it will cost you. Motherboards and gpus have gone up a good 300% in the past 5 years and what was $200 goes for $600. A console now is a much better value sadly.

That last sentence stings me as I have been a pc fanboy for 20 years. Orgin makes ok models but you will be paying a good $2000 for a good PC today with mid tier parts but will last for 10 years 

 

 

[sinetheo]

On 05/11/2022 at 11:38, freakyfriday said:

i have a full time job. im working. i have lots of money in the bank. i have to save that money for a car first. used or new cards cost alot of cash. the 275.70 cents is what i have left over from a walmart card.

The market is starting to crash. I am already irked I bought a car 2 months ago new as used ones were insane. Now I could get a used car for 20K that wasn't over 10 years old that is decent ... this was not true last January. 

Don't buy that Walmart PC man. It will be aweful and will be in the dumpster within a year. I know debt is bad but I would consider getting an amazon card with a great free 0% APR for 90 days (IF YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE) and buy the parts from there and build yourself. Pay it back before interest is due and you will save in the long run. If it is just to play games then I would not go in debt for this. Get a console. 

If you plan to learn coding or IT stuff it will be an investment worth it in the end. Car prices will rapidly depreciate as the market corrects itself and within 6 months will be back to normal. 

[freakyfriday]

On 23/04/2023 at 18:52, sinetheo said:

Pre Covid/Bitcoin inflated world I would say avoid OEM pcs at all costs and build on your own. They are all horrible. Unfortunately you are in Canada with no Microcenter nearby unless you want to drive to upstate new york if you are in Ontario. It maybe worth a trip if you are in Toronto to drive to Albany to have them build one for you. Yes a day trip is worth it for not having cheap plastic, real non blow up able power supplies, and real water cooling. But in 2023 it will cost you. Motherboards and gpus have gone up a good 300% in the past 5 years and what was $200 goes for $600. A console now is a much better value sadly.

That last sentence stings me as I have been a pc fanboy for 20 years. Orgin makes ok models but you will be paying a good $2000 for a good PC today with mid tier parts but will last for 10 years 

 

 

i would love to go the the usa and get a pc there but sadly i dont have a passport(with the strike on now it will take months to get one) 

[Mindovermaster Moderator]

On 23/04/2023 at 18:03, freakyfriday said:

i would love to go the the usa and get a pc there but sadly i dont have a passport(with the strike on now it will take months to get one) 

Can always mail yourself.

But yeah, sounds like you're stuck. Don't buy hardware stuff from WalMart. That's just asking to get your money stolen.

Save up enough to get your own system and start building!

[freakyfriday]

ok im debating on upgrading my pc. its 10 years old in june. i play games, not alot casual(tried new far cry 6 and the last of us, but wont run) surf the web and watch tv shows on it. Or i dont get a new pc and hold out until my pc is 15 years old.

my currrent pc right now is:

AMD A8 6600k overclocked to 4.29GHZ(stock fan)
8GB DDR3 1600mhz ram(1 stick of ram)
Gigabyte GTX 760 2GB overclocked- 60 core, 610 memory
MSI A78-m motherboard
2TB 7200rpm hard drive
850 watt power supply
dvd rom drive(dont know what speed)
wireless usb mouse
PS2 keyboard
Dell 17" LCD monitor(got it free a few years old from a co-worker)


i want to keep this new pc (hopefully) for another 10-15 years. i looked around for used and new systems. i narrowed it down to these. all prices are in CAD dollars. i would be playing at 1280x1024 not like very high quality.

Used systems:

first one:

i7 4790

16gb ram

2x500gb hard drive

onboard video card

150.00 bucks



second one:

i7 4790k

16gb ram

1tb and 2x500gb hard drive

1080ti video

250.00

third:

amd ryzen 3100

16gb ddr4 3700mhz cl17 ram

300 bucks without GPU and 120gb ssd or 330 with 512gb ssd m.2

350 with the 580 but just the 120gb ssd, 8gb of ram.

400 with the rx Sapphire pulse 580, but only a 126gb ssd with it. <--The 580 is actually never been used. It's sat in the box. only tested if it works.

440 with Sapphire pulse 580 and the 500gb ssd



fourth:

Lenovo TC M720s

model: 10ST002FUS 2.8 GHz intel Windows 10 operating system Monitor, keyboard and mouse included

400



fifth:

i5 12 core, 12th gen 16gb Ram. 250gb SSD 500GB HDD. wifi, HDMI, 6x USB. gigbit nic. windows 11, Updted.

dell optiplex 3000-

350.00

sixth:
HP Pavillion Gaming Desktop TG-01-1209. NVIDIA GeForceGTX 1660 Super, Intel Core i7-10700F @2.90GHz 8 core(s), 16 GB DDR4 RAM, 256 GB PCIe NVMe SSD, 1TB HDD @ 7200 RPM, Windows 11. 1 DisplayPort, 1 HDMI, 1 VGA.

650.00


New Pc at walmart- MSI MPG Trident 3 12TC-025CA Desktop Computer, Intel Core i5-12400F, 16GB Memory, 512GB SSD, NVIDIA GeForce RTX3060, WiFi 6E, Windows 11 Home, VR Ready | Walmart Canada- 1599.99 but i have a 275.70 gift cards to use on it so it would be 1284.99 plus local taxes.


edit i played cypherpunk 2077 v1.62 on my pc and it ran at 30 fps with all low settings!

[Mindovermaster Moderator]

Dude, you can buy a motherboard, AMD 5 5600, 32GB RAM, M.2 SSD for less than $400.. Use all your spare parts, like your case, PSU, etc.

 

Did you hear anything we said? "Don't buy OEM" "Don't buy from Walmart" Get that in your head, please.

[SnailSlug]

My cpu is two years older than yours (2600k).

I have a 2070 regular, boughted four years ago. Previously was on 750 TI.

I'd keep this for another 5 - 10 years, but it does not have TPM support which is going to be very important for Windows 11 services.

You can get by with a new GPU and SSD, but it will be around 3 - 5 years max before you need a new computer.

[pololy07]

On 4/25/2023 at 1:24 AM, freakyfriday said:

ok im debating on upgrading my pc. its 10 years old in june. i play games, not alot casual(tried new far cry 6 and the last of us, but wont run) surf the web and watch tv shows on it. Or i dont get a new pc and hold out until my pc is 15 years old.

my currrent pc right now is:

AMD A8 6600k overclocked to 4.29GHZ(stock fan)
8GB DDR3 1600mhz ram(1 stick of ram)
Gigabyte GTX 760 2GB overclocked- 60 core, 610 memory
MSI A78-m motherboard
2TB 7200rpm hard drive
850 watt power supply
dvd rom drive(dont know what speed)
wireless usb mouse
PS2 keyboard
Dell 17" LCD monitor(got it free a few years old from a co-worker)


i want to keep this new pc (hopefully) for another 10-15 years. i looked around for used and new systems. i narrowed it down to these. all prices are in CAD dollars. i would be playing at 1280x1024 not like very high quality.

Used systems:

first one:

i7 4790

16gb ram

2x500gb hard drive

onboard video card

150.00 bucks



second one:

i7 4790k

16gb ram

1tb and 2x500gb hard drive

1080ti video

250.00

third:

amd ryzen 3100

16gb ddr4 3700mhz cl17 ram

300 bucks without GPU and 120gb ssd or 330 with 512gb ssd m.2

350 with the 580 but just the 120gb ssd, 8gb of ram.

400 with the rx Sapphire pulse 580, but only a 126gb ssd with it. <--The 580 is actually never been used. It's sat in the box. only tested if it works.

440 with Sapphire pulse 580 and the 500gb ssd



fourth:

Lenovo TC M720s

model: 10ST002FUS 2.8 GHz intel Windows 10 operating system Monitor, keyboard and mouse included

400



fifth:

i5 12 core, 12th gen 16gb Ram. 250gb SSD 500GB HDD. wifi, HDMI, 6x USB. gigbit nic. windows 11, Updted.

dell optiplex 3000-

350.00

sixth:
HP Pavillion Gaming Desktop TG-01-1209. NVIDIA GeForceGTX 1660 Super, Intel Core i7-10700F @2.90GHz 8 core(s), 16 GB DDR4 RAM, 256 GB PCIe NVMe SSD, 1TB HDD @ 7200 RPM, Windows 11. 1 DisplayPort, 1 HDMI, 1 VGA.

650.00


New Pc at walmart- MSI MPG Trident 3 12TC-025CA Desktop Computer, Intel Core i5-12400F, 16GB Memory, 512GB SSD, NVIDIA GeForce RTX3060, WiFi 6E, Windows 11 Home, VR Ready | Walmart Canada  Market-Promocode - 1599.99 but i have a 275.70 gift cards to use on it so it would be 1284.99 plus local taxes.


edit i played cypherpunk 2077 v1.62 on my pc and it ran at 30 fps with all low settings!

The AMD Ryzen 3100 is a more modern processor that will have better performance than the Intel Core i7 4790. i would focus on that as well.

[freakyfriday]

hey guys(girls) a little update to this. i found a used pc. got it for 175 bucks canadian. it runs good on newer games on my 17" it will do until i upgrade in 2025.

 

I7 4790k @ 4.40GHZ( big cooler on it)

MSI Z97-G45 motherboard

16GB DDR3 1333hz @ 1600mhz

EVGA 1080 GTX 8gb overclocked(forget the numbers)

256GB SSD

2x500gb hard drive 1x2tb har drive(took from older pc)

750 watt PSU