False error on Local Security Authority Protection [Windows 11]

[kiddingguy]

My Windows 11 Security states that there are errors on my Local Security Authority Protection.

The info that is given is that no TPM it there. Yet, there is.

 

I also got this message on other (Intel) computer, and after checking and double-checking I decided to Dismiss this error.

Is this a (known) bug on Windows 11, 22H2 with all latest updates installed?

[Ixion]

Yup, it's a known bug and there have been several Neowin articles about it. I thought that a fix had been released but it may be limited to release preview or beta builds for the moment.

[spaceelf]

On 04/05/2023 at 07:11, Ixion said:

Yup, it's a known bug and there have been several Neowin articles about it. I thought that a fix had been released but it may be limited to release preview or beta builds for the moment.

Fairly sure it's unfixed in Beta.

[Steven P. Administrators]

Didn't that bug only apply to Enterprise or Education versions of Windows 10 and 11? Or is this a different bug?

[Brandon H Supervisor]

On 04/05/2023 at 07:11, Ixion said:

Yup, it's a known bug and there have been several Neowin articles about it. I thought that a fix had been released but it may be limited to release preview or beta builds for the moment.

they did release a fix, but that fix recently broke again from what I heard  

[hagjohn]

I've run into that a few time with my new build.

[hellowalkman Reporter]

It has been fixed https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-fixes-local-security-authority-protection-is-off-windows-11-defender-issue/

 

[ruhg]

I had this issue in April, was fixed in late April when that article was posted, looks like they un-fixed it again yesterday.

[kiddingguy]

The bug has returned. Apparently.

[skinnyJM]

Yes, it's back, returned to both of my (officially supported) W11 machines yesterday, but not the unofficially supported one. So I'm not sure what's going on there...

[kiddingguy]

On 07/05/2023 at 21:10, skinnyJM said:

Yes, it's back, returned to both of my (officially supported) W11 machines yesterday, but not the unofficially supported one. So I'm not sure what's going on there...

I guess it's the Microsoft way of "fixing".

1. It works
2. Let's break it with an update
3. Let's fix it
4. Let's break it again
5. Let's fix it with another update

(repeat steps 4 & 5 indefinitely) 

[+Elі Subscriber²]

I think the OP is experiencing two different bugs here. The article that is posted here in Neowin relates to the error with the Local Security Authority Protection bein off. ( I even experienced that myself, but it was fixed in one of my PCs, yet not in the other). Yet the OP is seeing an error related to no TPM module detected as well.

OP might want to refresh his Windows TPM settings.  Here's how.

Additionally you might want to make sure Secure Boot is enabled on your BIOS / UEFI.

Because I have Linux also installed in dual boot and have disabled Secure Boot at times, I have then experienced that TPM error on Windows 11.

[SuperKid]

I think this bug relates to also the Windows security centre crashes, the UI will load but some elements will appear as Unknown. You can see in the logs the app crashes.

[kiddingguy]

On 08/05/2023 at 19:01, Elі said:

I think the OP is experiencing two different bugs here. The article that is posted here in Neowin relates to the error with the Local Security Authority Protection bein off. ( I even experienced that myself, but it was fixed in one of my PCs, yet not in the other). Yet the OP is seeing an error related to no TPM module detected as well.

OP might want to refresh his Windows TPM settings.  Here's how.

Additionally you might want to make sure Secure Boot is enabled on your BIOS / UEFI.

Because I have Linux also installed in dual boot and have disabled Secure Boot at times, I have then experienced that TPM error on Windows 11.

TPM is on.

It's the message in Windows Security that tells me it's off [not true]. And the bug came back.

[kiddingguy]

LSA is turned off... but clicking further doesn't show anything. Right?!

(or am I looking wrong?)

[skinnyJM]

I'm seeing the same exact screens, preceded by:

[adrynalyne]

On 09/05/2023 at 16:29, skinnyJM said:

I'm seeing the same exact screens, preceded by:

Yes, MS doing what they do best. They break something, fix it, and then break it again later.

 

But with MS being a small indie developer, its to be expected. /s

[kiddingguy]

See frontpage news:   Microsoft admits it couldn't really fix Windows 11 Security and Defender LSA issues 

And my question: Is disabling kernel mode better than just click “ Dismiss” and not be bothered by this message?
For security-sake I mean...

[Ixion]

The issue for some people appears to be that it's causing a BSOD rather than just an annoying message so disabling Kernal mose is a sensible setp. Personally I use my machine primarily for gaming and most of the virtualisation based security (kernel mode isolation, memory integrity etc) causes a loss of performance for what at best is a negligable gain in security on a system not containing sensitive information so I've disabled all such features. On my work machine/networks I administer they're all turned on!

[kiddingguy]

Even with the Moment 3 update and all, it's still not fixed.

Wake up Microsoft!? Or does this have more impact than expected on how Windows and its security management/Windows Security behaves in W11?
Or maybe with next week's Patch Tuesday it'll be fixed?

[skinnyJM]

On 05/06/2023 at 10:28, kiddingguy said:

Even with the Moment 3 update and all, it's still not fixed.

Wake up Microsoft!? Or does this have more impact than expected on how Windows and its security management/Windows Security behaves in W11?
Or maybe with next week's Patch Tuesday it'll be fixed?

Maybe they really do fix things based on throwing darts while wearing a blindfold???😵

[hellowalkman Reporter]

okay so MS says it is fixed now https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-finally-manages-to-fix-windows-11-defender-local-security-authority-protection-off/

@kiddingguywhat do you think?

[kiddingguy]

On 06/07/2023 at 10:31, hellowalkman said:

okay so MS says it is fixed now https://www.neowin.net/news/microsoft-finally-manages-to-fix-windows-11-defender-local-security-authority-protection-off/

@kiddingguywhat do you think?

It looks like it's solved. I think from server-side, because I haven't installed the Patch Tuesday updates not yet [doing it now].

[adrynalyne]

On 06/07/2023 at 08:21, kiddingguy said:

It looks like it's solved. I think from server-side, because I haven't installed the Patch Tuesday updates not yet [doing it now].

It would have come in as a Defender update, not a patch Tuesday update.

[kiddingguy]

On 06/07/2023 at 19:51, adrynalyne said:

It would have come in as a Defender update, not a patch Tuesday update.

OK. Anyways, seems like it's solved. For now 🤞