Trump vs Biden Poll

[+Warwagon MVC]

With all the recent political polls, why not have a Neowin poll?

 

 

[Astra.Xtreme]

We already know this place is highly slanted to the left.  😉
The 3 most popular threads on this website are political echo chambers, and it's a common trend in all 3 of them.

[+Warwagon MVC]

On 18/07/2024 at 08:24, Astra.Xtreme said:

We already know this place is highly slanted to the left.  😉
The 3 most popular threads on this website are political echo chambers, and it's a common trend in all 3 of them.

It would give that impression. Which is why I'm creating this poll outside the political forum. Get people to vote and get a sense of the broader neowin base.

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

My lord, a forum populated with (I would hope) above average intelligence - as we are actively collaborating and seeking/providing information - leans towards the guy who isn't an utter shambles of a human being.  Who'd have though!

[+Edouard Subscriber²]

On 18/07/2024 at 22:45, Warwagon said:

With all the recent political polls, why not have a Neowin poll?

 

 

Is this an anonymous poll?

[+Warwagon MVC]

On 18/07/2024 at 12:08, Jumping Jacinta said:

Is this an anonymous poll?

Should be

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

On 18/07/2024 at 18:30, Warwagon said:

Should be

Pretty sure admins can see the voting, but yes - it is publicly anonymous.

 

So, echo chambers...

If this poll leans towards Trump, then you can pat yourself on the back and suggest that you were right - all those threads are just people in an echo chamber and you knew it all along.

If this post leans towards Biden, then you can pat yourself on the back and suggest that you were right - Neowin is just an echo chamber and you knew it all along.

 

So - tell me about echo chambers, when this poll can only serve your agenda...

[Astra.Xtreme]

On 18/07/2024 at 12:54, Dick Montage said:

Pretty sure admins can see the voting, but yes - it is publicly anonymous.

 

So, echo chambers...

If this poll leans towards Trump, then you can pat yourself on the back and suggest that you were right - all those threads are just people in an echo chamber and you knew it all along.

If this post leans towards Biden, then you can pat yourself on the back and suggest that you were right - Neowin is just an echo chamber and you knew it all along.

 

So - tell me about echo chambers, when this poll can only serve your agenda...

What are you rambling on about?  Warwagon posted this as a simple poll, but here you are trying to steer it the same direction as the other 3 "echo chambers".  I guess you can't help it, but thanks for proving my point, I guess.

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On 18/07/2024 at 19:39, Astra.Xtreme said:

What are you rambling on about?  Warwagon posted this as a simple poll, but here you are trying to steer it the same direction as the other 3 "echo chambers".  I guess you can't help it, but thanks for proving my point, I guess.

Just as you made mine, and I’d love to give you the credit for realising this - but considering you label a coherent argument as “rambling”, you reveal more about yourself than you probably intended. Well done!

[adrynalyne]

On 18/07/2024 at 06:24, Astra.Xtreme said:

We already know this place is highly slanted to the left.  😉
The 3 most popular threads on this website are political echo chambers, and it's a common trend in all 3 of them.

I chose option 3. They both suck.

[+Warwagon MVC]

On a side note, i'm not saying it's the " falcon heavy" buuuuuuut

[Astra.Xtreme]

On 18/07/2024 at 13:50, Dick Montage said:

Just as you made mine, and I’d love to give you the credit for realising this - but considering you label a coherent argument as “rambling”, you reveal more about yourself than you probably intended. Well done!

Ah yes, the deflection tactic of those who refuse to stand by what they spew...  What point exactly were you trying to make?  Oh right, that supposedly somebody here is going to pat themselves on the back based on the results.  Sorry, but the only one that's being triggered by the poll results is you... 
The poll is just a poll no matter what your imagination is telling you otherwise.  If you want to whine about one of the candidates, wobble your way back to the proper thread for that...

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On 18/07/2024 at 15:52, Astra.Xtreme said:

Ah yes, the deflection tactic of those who refuse to stand by what they spew...  What point exactly were you trying to make?  Oh right, that supposedly somebody here is going to pat themselves on the back based on the results.  Sorry, but the only one that's being triggered by the poll results is you... 
The poll is just a poll no matter what your imagination is telling you otherwise.  If you want to whine about one of the candidates, wobble your way back to the proper thread for that...

You’re right it is a simple poll, and yet you are the one who whined about the echo chambers and then whine some more when someone questions that.  

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

On 18/07/2024 at 21:52, Astra.Xtreme said:

Ah yes, the deflection tactic of those who refuse to stand by what they spew...  What point exactly were you trying to make?  Oh right, that supposedly somebody here is going to pat themselves on the back based on the results.  Sorry, but the only one that's being triggered by the poll results is you... 
The poll is just a poll no matter what your imagination is telling you otherwise.  If you want to whine about one of the candidates, wobble your way back to the proper thread for that...

And you talk about “rambling”. Hilarious!

Polls are never “just polls” in a political context. They are (at best) a pointless endeavour to make a point and (at worst) voter intimidation.

You seem absolutely triggered by people not agreeing with you! Snowflake behaviour!

Edited July 18, 2024 by Dick Montage

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Anyone who has a shred of common sense (so far only 23% (7/30) of those who took the poll have it) can see what's going on who's not brainwashed by the corrupt media knows the ONLY choice is...

The Great MAGA King (i.e. Donald J Trump)

he's the obvious sane choice in a insane world as when he's in power the world was stable and the USA prospers. when Crooked Joe and the godless left is in power, everything burns. like the bible basically says, 'by their fruits you shall know them'. by that standard (as Christianity is ALWAYS a safe bet to measure stuff by since the USA has revolved around those standard for a long time which the left now basically hates as they have embraced the culture of death) Trump is FAR superior to anyone on the left who just wants to see the USA/world burn as is obvious with inflation/open borders/wars/trans insanity etc (pretty much everything they do destroys instead of builds-up where it really matters). I always use a very simple example to show you how insane the left has become... when people think it's okay for biological males to compete in female sports that's a failure of basic reason at a fundamental level and these types inevitably will side with the bad guys long term. it's just the way things are.

like Dan Bongino says, it's all about snapshots and sound bytes and this picture should pretty much seal the Nov 2024 election...

 

Thank God (i.e. The Holy Trinity (Father/Son(Jesus Christ/Holy Spirit)) for saving Donald J Trump!!! ; real Americans (at least those with a functioning brain) KNOW he's the good guy and those opposing him are those of reprobate mind.

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On 18/07/2024 at 06:24, Astra.Xtreme said:

We already know this place is highly slanted to the left.  😉

Because we read, are educated, don't ban the discovery of new information, and believe that all people are equal.

Crazy, I know.

Religion is not a basis for government.  The founding fathers knew this.  It's a slippery slope to go that way again, and anyone who does that is an idiot.

[DramaInc]

Not surprised.  Tech space has no room for people who do "alternative facts".  They get fired on the spot in my company.  

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On 18/07/2024 at 17:42, ThaCrip said:

Thank God (i.e. The Holy Trinity (Father/Son(Jesus Christ/Holy Spirit)) for saving Donald J Trump!!! ; real Americans (at least those with a functioning brain) KNOW he's the good guy and those opposing him are those of reprobate mind.

RIGHT, “God” saved a pediophile, rapist, adulterer, grifter, racist and misogynist from death.  But instead allowed the bullet to kill a family man who was shielding his family from stray bullets at a rally.  Trump is such a great man it took days to call his wife to pay his condolences.

[+samw61 Subscriber²]

One of the things that is clear to so many people (well, maybe outside of the US), is that neither of these people are fit for office, and that the political rhetoric in the United States is anything but united, and frankly extreme from both sides. A two-party system is flawed at best, and while I'm not entirely sure how the US political system is structured, it doesn't seem to allow a broader set of ideas or conventions to boost the country.

The flaws for Trump are clear. He only accepts others that agree with him (an echo chamber of ideas, akin to this poll/website 😉), not allowing other ideas or views to his own (vice president candidate as a mini-Trump is the latest worrying trend in that regard). While he is amazing at convincing people that his direction is the way to go, the way he goes about it is defined in every dictionary as misleading. If you splatter small truths in amongst a premise that is false, it doesn't make the whole thing true. I suspect Trump is aware of this as he is clearly switched on, though he has realised and is taking advantage of this psychological process that has helped him increase his voting base substantially.

Biden is a bit more complex. He clearly has led relatively well these past few years, despite the global and local issues that have come up. But there have been those gaffs too (though arguably Trumps were worse and more dangerous - injecting disinfectant or exposing intense light, looking directly at the sun). He is OLD (also with Trump being not far off, it doesn't really make sense to claim this for just Biden). In Aus, we had a PM who is just 3 years older than Biden, and we kicked him out of office in 2007 because we thought he was too old then, and disconnected from the country's needs.

They may have life experience to varying degrees, but the system is clearly so skewed with such a focus on POTUS (nearly God/villain perspective) that something has to give. I imagine an implosion of this country, akin to Handmaids Tale or Hunger Games in the next 40 years if this polarization keeps going. Good luck, and stay safe.

Edited July 19, 2024 by samw61

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On 18/07/2024 at 07:24, Astra.Xtreme said:

We already know this place is highly slanted to the left.  😉
The 3 most popular threads on this website are political echo chambers, and it's a common trend in all 3 of them.

Could not agree more.

[SecretAgentMan]

On 18/07/2024 at 13:39, Astra.Xtreme said:

What are you rambling on about?  Warwagon posted this as a simple poll, but here you are trying to steer it the same direction as the other 3 "echo chambers".  I guess you can't help it, but thanks for proving my point, I guess.

How is he the person trying to steer it?  You actually made the first post saying this place is highly slanted to the left and that three threads are echo chambers.  If anyone is stirring the pot it was you and this thread could have been easily left as a basic poll if you hadn't made that comment below.

"We already know this place is highly slanted to the left.  😉
The 3 most popular threads on this website are political echo chambers, and it's a common trend in all 3 of them." - Astra.Xtreme 

[HoochieMamma]

On 19/07/2024 at 12:11, primortal said:

RIGHT, “God” saved a pediophile, rapist, adulterer, grifter, racist and misogynist from death.  But instead allowed the bullet to kill a family man who was shielding his family from stray bullets at a rally.  Trump is such a great man it took days to call his wife to pay his condolences.

Also didn't want to talk to Biden either who called before Trumpo

https://nypost.com/2024/07/15/us-news/corey-comperatores-widow-refused-biden-call-after-trump-rally-shooting/

[+Nik Louch Subscriber²]

On 19/07/2024 at 03:30, samw61 said:

But there have been those gaffs too

Agreed.  It is more nuanced with Biden...

Firstly, we all know that he struggles with public speaking due to him constantly fighting his stutter.  Secondly, his advancing years are never going to help.  Do those gaffs impede his direct ability to perform his duties?  No.

But, do they undermine his public image, his ability to be seen as a competent leader?  To some, I would say yes - and that's valid.  We all mess up, but we aren't all the President of the United States of America, and it's not necessarily fair, but it's honest that we maybe need the person holding that role to be able to communicate well without such gaffs.

I, myself, facepalm when he does this.  And I have been known to chuckle at memes around the situation.  However, let's speak plainly here - those who use this as a means to somehow negatively compare him to Trump, they are disingenuous in their actions as they allow their cult leader to transgress in much more damaging ways without rebuke.

All that aside - of the two, Biden is astoundingly obviously the better leader, President, human - and so if given the choice of the two, the answer should be obvious.

Anyone who voted for Trump in the first election, OK - you could claim ignorance; I don't buy it because I personally feel that you should be educated before making such choices, but I don't run the election and my opinion is just that.  However now?  He has shown many times to not give a damn about the United States of America, it's citizens, it's laws, it's global standing, and yet here we are, people still worshiping his cult because they have doubled-down on whatever motivated them originally.

Edited July 19, 2024 by Dick Montage

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You call yourself “Dick Montage” and we are meant to believe you’re intelligent?! 🍿😂

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I would vote for a dead man before I would install a dictator. God Bless America!!!