Peter Griffin Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 As I said last week, this would happen. Now it has, the 9ers have waived Jeff Garcia. I'm sure this will at least make it bearable for Owens if he is forced to stay in San Fran Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145106-49ers-waive-garcia/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaticX Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 thats just wrong, Garica has world of talent... the first half of last season he was hurt, hence the 49ers were struggling... but when he was healthy the 49ers were on a roll... big mistake i think... they dont even remember when he threw like 4 or 5 tds, and ran for a couple... morons!!! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145106-49ers-waive-garcia/#findComment-1786236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Griffin Posted March 2, 2004 Author Share Posted March 2, 2004 Agreed. Garcia was a great talent. I would rather have Garcia on my team than Owens Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145106-49ers-waive-garcia/#findComment-1786243 Share on other sites More sharing options...
axis Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 I would rather have Owens' talent, but not Owens himself. Quarterbacks are a dime a dozen in the west coast offense. Just like Clinton Portis in Denver, put in the right offense, anyone can be a star. Sure Garcia was pretty good, but he wasn't 49er good. Tim Rattay isn't gonna stay long either. I believe his backup is Ken Dorsey from Miami. San Francisco better get it together, a crappy coach, no Garrison Hearst, Jeff Garcia, or Terrell Owens. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145106-49ers-waive-garcia/#findComment-1786256 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaticX Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 no matter who the QB is now, hes going to struggle down the road, an guess who's going to be bitching and moaning that he doesnt get the ball enough... not keyshawn, thats right, TO.... lol Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145106-49ers-waive-garcia/#findComment-1786263 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Veteran Posted March 2, 2004 Veteran Share Posted March 2, 2004 Anybody know what his price tag is? Anybody showing an interest? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145106-49ers-waive-garcia/#findComment-1786390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawtai Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 I wonder where Garcia'll end up... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145106-49ers-waive-garcia/#findComment-1786392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaticX Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 i wouldnt be surprised if the Redskins pick him up... they need a QB like they need a hole in the head, they shuffled their QB's around more than any team... but thats just my guess!!! woohooo 500 posts... lol :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145106-49ers-waive-garcia/#findComment-1786506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
leedogg Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 Thought the skins already picked up brunell? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145106-49ers-waive-garcia/#findComment-1786513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattmatik Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 Well, dang, I'm kind of split on this. I knew it was coming, because all the talk around here was that he refused to restructure his contract, something the 49ers don't take kind to. (Jerry Rice, Garrisson Hearst, etc.) I love Jeff Garcia - he has a huge heart, huge will to win, and he's a local boy. What I didn't like about him was his absolute refusal to change his game up. He never did learn to keep his feet still in the pocket, he never throws the ball downfield (time & again Terrell Owens had 1 on 1 coverage and the ball never went his way), and I think the drunk driving incident in San Jose was the last straw. What the 49ers MUST do now is figure out a way to re-sign Terrell Owens to a long-term contract. All of last season, TO made it obvious that if there were changes at QB, he would be willing to stay. The 49ers CANNOT afford to lose both players. Tim Rattay is very capable of running this team and he knows how to get TO the ball - which, I have to say, is a priority. Owens is the most versatile WR in the NFL, and if it weren't for Garcia being basically BLIND on occassions, I'm willing to bet TO would compete with Marvin Harrison in every statistical category. Hopefully Jeff gets a starting job elsewhere, though (Dallas??). He's a good QB and whoever does land him will have a great player for a few years. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145106-49ers-waive-garcia/#findComment-1786514 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaticX Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 Thought the skins already picked up brunell? :pinch: doh, your right....lol :blush: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145106-49ers-waive-garcia/#findComment-1786537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroChaos Veteran Posted March 2, 2004 Veteran Share Posted March 2, 2004 hmm, interesting news. garcia is a pretty big name... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145106-49ers-waive-garcia/#findComment-1787282 Share on other sites More sharing options...
imtoomuch Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 About time. Garcia was overrated IMO. Most quarterbacks of West Coast Offenses, and their deriviatives, are, though. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145106-49ers-waive-garcia/#findComment-1787316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxdesmus Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 that's too bad...i don't like the guy, i think he's a d**k, but i think he's a pretty decent quaterback. oh well ...go dolphins, lol ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145106-49ers-waive-garcia/#findComment-1787524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major_Tom Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 Damn, well this is to bad, but I do think they need to get the ball to TO, magic happens when that man has the ball. I dunno who is gonna replace Garcia. Rattay is alright and i suppose he could word for this season. Now they NEED to keep TO though! BTW Garcia is pretty old as far as QBs go too (35 or somthing I think) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145106-49ers-waive-garcia/#findComment-1787567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattmatik Posted March 3, 2004 Share Posted March 3, 2004 http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=1749293 Well, so much for TO staying a Niner. Now I'm fukcing ****sed. Forget the players on the field. The front office has been killing the 49ers ever since Carmen Policy and Eddie DeBartolo, Jr. left. John York doesn't know a damn thing about running a football team, Terry Donahue knows absolutely nothing about being a general manager (even after Bill Walsh tutored him!) and by firing Steve Mariucci and hiring Dennis Erickson, the 49ers have done nothing but point the ship toward the ground and are heading there fast. And I don't want to hear from them about salary cap issues or anything else. I said it before and I'll say it again: the front office is crap; they never think out of the box and never think long-term (that's the why they keep having to restructure contracts and provide stupid incentives but then they can't pay it). One of the last great franchises in all of sports has officially joined the ranks of the Celtics. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145106-49ers-waive-garcia/#findComment-1788577 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BMac Posted March 3, 2004 Share Posted March 3, 2004 Too bad for Jeff. I liked him, especially since he came from the CFL. I see him being a starter on another team this year and if not he can always come back to Canada. :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145106-49ers-waive-garcia/#findComment-1788606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxikk Veteran Posted March 3, 2004 Veteran Share Posted March 3, 2004 i dont think ownes would mind staying if rattay was the qb... i dont think t.o. liked garcia. i wonder if the t.o. blunder had anything to do with this. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145106-49ers-waive-garcia/#findComment-1789340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
firen Posted March 3, 2004 Share Posted March 3, 2004 I hate how people think Rattay is so much better than Garcia just because he had his little winning streak but dont concider all of which games Garcia has lead the 49ers to victory...jeez :angry: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145106-49ers-waive-garcia/#findComment-1790007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattmatik Posted March 3, 2004 Share Posted March 3, 2004 I hate how people think Rattay is so much better than Garcia just because he had his little winning streak but dont concider all of which games Garcia has lead the 49ers to victory...jee:angry:y: It's not so much about Tim Rattay being so much better than Jeff Garcia, it's about how Tim Rattay has the potential and the youth to be much better than Jeff Garcia. I won't forget for a second how Jeff Garcia took over for Steve Young (unexpectedly) and led the 49ers to be in the top 5 in all offensive categories pretty much every single year since. But, if you want to base it on games that Jeff Garcia won...tell me, when was the last time the 49ers beat the Rams or the Packers with Jeff Garcia as a QB? Passing wise, Tim Rattay is better. He can throw the ball short, middleLONGb>, and the screens out of the backfield. He stays in the pocket going through progressions, whereas Garcia would get ansy and start to scramble. Granted, Jeff Garcia does have alot better mobility out of the pocket, but that does nothing when you start picking up concussions and you have a bad back. Maybe it's just me, but I see alot more composure and patience by Rattay in the pocket than Garcia. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145106-49ers-waive-garcia/#findComment-1790893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaticX Posted March 3, 2004 Share Posted March 3, 2004 think he might end up with the dolphins? they got rid of griese and looking to trade fiedler aswel :hmmm: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145106-49ers-waive-garcia/#findComment-1791373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxikk Veteran Posted March 3, 2004 Veteran Share Posted March 3, 2004 that would be weird. i think the bears should try to get him. or the giants. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145106-49ers-waive-garcia/#findComment-1791618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulder Posted March 3, 2004 Share Posted March 3, 2004 Personally , my money is on Garcia going to the Bucs. Why? Grudens west coast offense is still in search of a QB capable of running it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145106-49ers-waive-garcia/#findComment-1791670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxikk Veteran Posted March 3, 2004 Veteran Share Posted March 3, 2004 johnson is better than garcia imo. he still has a couple years left in him, plus shaun king isnt that bad of a backup. PLUS: they have chris simms i believe. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145106-49ers-waive-garcia/#findComment-1791749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaticX Posted March 3, 2004 Share Posted March 3, 2004 or the Raiders, Gannon should be on his last year they should try and get Garcia Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/145106-49ers-waive-garcia/#findComment-1791795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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