Harvard scientist claims Mars was home to a civilization wiped out in a nuclear war

[branfont]

An ancient civilization on Mars was wiped out by a nuclear attack from another alien race.

It might sound like the plot of a science fiction novel, but Harvard scientist Dr John Brandenburg believes this catastrophic event really happened.

According to his bizarre theory, Dr Brandenburg says ancient Martians known as Cydonians and Utopians were massacred in the attack - and evidence of the genocide can still be seen today. 

Back in 2011 the scientist first postulated that the red color on Mars could have been due to a naturally occurring thermonuclear explosion, claiming chemical elements in the Red Planet's surface matched those around nuclear test sites on Earth.

Mainstream scientists have argued there is no credible physical evidence, such as a crater or fallout signatures, which points to an artificial or sudden nuclear explosion, and have highlighted that the paper was published in a relatively low level scientific journal.

But now, the theory is gaining fresh attention. 

 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14585501/harvard-scientist-alarming-evidence-mars-ancient-civilization-nuclear-war.html

[Mindovermaster Global Moderator]

Baloney. Where's the proof besides his motor mouth?

[FloatingFatMan]

On 12/04/2025 at 04:22, branfont said:

An ancient civilization on Mars was wiped out by a nuclear attack from another alien race.

It might sound like the plot of a science fiction novel, but Harvard scientist Dr John Brandenburg believes this catastrophic event really happened.

According to his bizarre theory, Dr Brandenburg says ancient Martians known as Cydonians and Utopians were massacred in the attack - and evidence of the genocide can still be seen today. 

Back in 2011 the scientist first postulated that the red color on Mars could have been due to a naturally occurring thermonuclear explosion, claiming chemical elements in the Red Planet's surface matched those around nuclear test sites on Earth.

Mainstream scientists have argued there is no credible physical evidence, such as a crater or fallout signatures, which points to an artificial or sudden nuclear explosion, and have highlighted that the paper was published in a relatively low level scientific journal.

But now, the theory is gaining fresh attention. 

 

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14585501/harvard-scientist-alarming-evidence-mars-ancient-civilization-nuclear-war.html

The Daily Mail? Dude, in the UK we call that rag "The Daily Fail".  It's a trash rag tabloid, barely worth using as shipping padding...

[+Edouard Subscriber²]

On 12/04/2025 at 14:07, FloatingFatMan said:

The Daily Mail? Dude, in the UK we call that rag "The Daily Fail".  It's a trash rag tabloid, barely worth using as shipping padding...

Yep! It appears The Daily Fail has lifted this from a 2015 podcast that the doctor did.

https://www.everand.com/podcast/418262003/Dr-John-Brandenburg-Life-And-Death-On-Mars-New-proof-of-a-nuclear-catastrophe-on-Mars-In-an-epic-story-of-discovery-strong-evidence-is-presented

[WiltshireHam]

Rubbish... Mark Watney would have noticed...

[xMorpheousx416]

Wow. 

[+Edouard Subscriber²]

On 12/04/2025 at 18:34, WiltshireHam said:

Rubbish... Mark Watney would have noticed...

I had to search that. 😎

[dwd999]

Well there are several things I could say. He's 72 years old and may possibly be in the early stages of senile dementia. His field is plasma physics, a lot of which is science fiction that people just think is real because the writers have fancy college degrees. And the most alarming thing is that he allegedly is affiliated with Harvard, although I don't see his name among the current faculty. If that affiliation is true, it just shows how worthless some college degrees are.

[FloatingFatMan]

On 12/04/2025 at 19:36, dwd999 said:

Well there are several things I could say. He's 72 years old and may possibly be in the early stages of senile dementia. His field is plasma physics, a lot of which is science fiction that people just think is real because the writers have fancy college degrees. And the most alarming thing is that he allegedly is affiliated with Harvard, although I don't see his name among the current faculty. If that affiliation is true, it just shows how worthless some college degrees are.

Now now, a single kook doesn't make the entire university suspect...

[dwd999]

I could also throw in that Harvard gave a Masters in Business Administration degree to George W. Bush and you know economic and business chaos happened on his watch.

[+DDG3595 Subscriber²]

Actually, it was the Vorlons and Shadows that fought over Mars.  After their conflict left the planet uninhabitable, they took off for the Rim.

[TheReaperMan]

On 14/04/2025 at 14:56, DDG3595 said:

Actually, it was the Vorlons and Shadows that fought over Mars.  After their conflict left the planet uninhabitable, they took off for the Rim.

Was that the toilet rim 🤣