DELTA's New Rig

[DELTA75329]

yeah so l337 he uses onboard sound :p

Which has rated better than Audigy in many a review. Not that I care: I'm not much of a gamer. :)

[DELTA75329]

Incredible Rig. How much did it cost you total [minus the monitor]?

Wasn't cheap, but I paid much less than a simularly configured competing Dell equivelent. ;)

[adamp2p]

The 2500+ is not any worse than the 3200+, but it's certainly not better. It's slower and must be overclocked to match (or beat) the 3200+.

Besides, the whole point was minimize the heat. An O/C chip will always run hotter than stock. I know the cooling solution I selected would compensate accordingly, but I didn't want to do that. When this thing was on the drawing board, I really did think about overclocking. But then I thought: "If I want the coolest (and quietest) running chip possible, then what's the point of working against myself? Just pay a little more and in the long run, you don't have to trade temps and stability for excellent performance when you can simply have both." Having a chip that idles at 48C when I know I can get it 5-7C cooler by just running it at the designed/intended spec would serve only to irritate me, but only when I have the time to think about it in silence with the jet engine-- I mean, PC, off. Beyond that, my experience with O/C has shown me that I can't do it in a way that keeps the box stable. More power to you if you can, but spending more money to get the real thing does not mean I wasted it. Anyway, this a moot point: your suggestion would be a great idea, if all new 2500+ chips available these days chips didn't sell with locked multipliers at the time I allegedly "overpaid" for a real 3200+. ;)

Now, please don't tell me I should have looked for a used one when the idea was to build a new machine from scratch. I'm not trying to be bitchy, but you always have some entertaining comeback.. Just making sure I cover the bases. :)

All the same, thanks for your input and the compliment. (Y)

Well what can I say, Delta? You explain yourself so well.

One thing that came to mind when I was reading over your purchases was "why is DELTA buying an Athlon XP?" And as I continued to browse over the details of your configuration, I noticed that you have invested a pretty penny into this system, and I assumed that this system is supposed to last you for a little while (at least a year?).

Why did you go Athlon XP 3200+? Do you run mostly "general usage" programs, such as those that are bundled into the "Business Winstone" benchmark? Do you generally work with one application at a time? If this is the case, then I completely understand your move, because otherwise I have no idea why you chose the aging Athlon XP platform.

With the amount of money you invested in this system, you could have similarly purchased an Athlon 64 based rig, with much better performance across the board, especially with memory intensive apps. You could have also taken advantage of the 64 bit elements of the chip, which could be soon exploited when Microsoft finishes up their 64 bit OS.

[Visentinel]

Socket A is now a Dead End and Socket 462 is Also going to die coz of the FCPGA ? socket is taking over, that socket has the pins on the mobo instead.

Adamp2p has a good Point, But also P4 has HyperThreading and a much faster Front Side Bus, Athlon64 has 2 400mhz Buses, One for the FSB and one for the memory wich Basicly makes it a 800mhz FSB CPU but the dedicated memory Controller makes it perform Faster than the P4 so at this point in time Selecting a Socket A platform is Wierd when you can either go Athlon64 or Pentium 4 without spending to much more Money :)

[DjmUK]

Just don't put those specs into your signature - it's a little too detailed. But hey, it's still a neat setup (I love the cable management).

I also concur with you about one of your 3 reasons:

3.) I'm part of some weird cult that questions why people never ever seem to suspect the fact that their CPUs being overclocked might have something to do with compatibility or stability issues.

Now this I totally agree on, I'll be getting a P4 3.2GHz and I WON'T be overclocking it. I choose stability over a touch of speed...I mean why risk it - but hey, I'm part of that cult ;)

[Visentinel]

Heh a Touch of speed LOL

I ran my 2000+ 1.667ghz at 2.2ghz wich is the 3200+s clock speed and it was totally stable and it was a Massive Speed increase, it felt like double the speed and the fsb at 333 instead of 266.

same goes for a 2500+ to 3200+

u get 2.2ghz and a 400 fsb :)

[DELTA75329]

Well what can I say, Delta? You explain yourself so well.

One thing that came to mind when I was reading over your purchases was "why is DELTA buying an Athlon XP?" And as I continued to browse over the details of your configuration, I noticed that you have invested a pretty penny into this system, and I assumed that this system is supposed to last you for a little while (at least a year?).

Why did you go Athlon XP 3200+? Do you run mostly "general usage" programs, such as those that are bundled into the "Business Winstone" benchmark? Do you generally work with one application at a time? If this is the case, then I completely understand your move, because otherwise I have no idea why you chose the aging Athlon XP platform.

With the amount of money you invested in this system, you could have similarly purchased an Athlon 64 based rig, with much better performance across the board, especially with memory intensive apps. You could have also taken advantage of the 64 bit elements of the chip, which could be soon exploited when Microsoft finishes up their 64 bit OS.

Yea, I use it for general stuff. eMail, web browing, paying bills. Stuff like that.

But I also wanted real power for video editing and encoding. I want to make movies with my video camera and then add special effects to the raw footage. Enoding is also a big deal, and that needs lots of power. In all honesty, my research indicates that Intel would been the better choice, but I didn't really have the money in the time alotted. There was a time limit because I wanted this built before the weather got too hot here. I didn't want to replacing over heated components, and I don't I'll have to.

As for the A64:Again, price was an issue. Also, the A64 is really new, which means the chipsets for it are as well. I've never been an early adopter of new technology. I prefer for it to mature before I buy as I value stability every bit as much as performance.

:)

[PCKing]

woohoo, you live right down the road from me so I can come steal it!

Nice rig, exceptionally nice job on the wire management! :yes:

[DELTA75329]

woohoo, you live right down the road from me so I can come steal it!

Nice rig, exceptionally nice job on the wire management!  :yes:

Wire management is a big deal to me.. I think it's a huge factor in keeping the temps down.

My hard work appears to have paid off quite nicely:

:cool:

[Iain]

Nice rig!

[Storm]

wow thats colder than my 2200+

[PCKing]

Wire management is a big deal to me.. I think it's a huge factor in keeping the temps down.

My hard work appears to have paid off quite nicely:

:cool:

hard work always pays more than half assed... your machine looks very nice :yes:

[jaffa]

wow thats colder than my 2200+

it's an SP-97.. but i must say.. it's pretty hot for 2.2GHz @ 1.65volt.. my SP-97 keeps my 2400+ @ 2.4GHz @ 35 celsius.. AS5 used too.. :huh:

[DELTA75329]

it's an SP-97.. but i must say.. it's pretty hot for 2.2GHz @ 1.65volt.. my SP-97 keeps my 2400+ @ 2.4GHz @ 35 celsius.. AS5 used too..:huh:h:

In a room without air conditioning? I think mine does more than good enough; it's not high at all.

The previous machine in the same room was at 57-60c

Better than good enough if you ask me.:happy:y:

[Storm]

it's an SP-97.. but i must say.. it's pretty hot for 2.2GHz @ 1.65volt.. my SP-97 keeps my 2400+ @ 2.4GHz @ 35 celsius.. AS5 used too..:huh:h:

I just have the one fan in my case (CPU fan) and it pretty much stays at 47degrees c