MadCap Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 Now I've done a bit of looking around and ALOT of installing of different distro's and I always get ****ed off at all the branding that the different companies do to linux like mandrake and redhat. I want to be able to boot into gnome or kde and not have a blue curve redhat screen come up. Basically is there a distro where everything is left as default as if you just downloaded it from gnome or kde and installed it yourself. I've been trying to install gentoo but its alot of work to set up. Does it install with alot of branding included or what? Anyhow just looking for a lil help here. Not trying to start a "which is better" war or anything like that. Thanx in advance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volrathxp Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 Now I've done a bit of looking around and ALOT of installing of different distro's and I always get ****ed off at all the branding that the different companies do to linux like mandrake and redhat. I want to be able to boot into gnome or kde and not have a blue curve redhat screen come up. Basically is there a distro where everything is left as default as if you just downloaded it from gnome or kde and installed it yourself. I've been trying to install gentoo but its alot of work to set up. Does it install with alot of branding included or what? Anyhow just looking for a lil help here. Not trying to start a "which is better" war or anything like that.Thanx in advance gentoo is all about choice. you choose how you want things done, they don't choose for you. so your answer is there is no branding. :happy: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadCap Posted May 24, 2004 Author Share Posted May 24, 2004 Well guess I'll bite the bullet and give gentoo another run. Gotta learn somehow... Still if there is another distro out there like that...but with an easier install let me know. Thanx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonCooperUK Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 I would definitely try slackware - the speed of something like gentoo (well, apart from all the compiler optimisations that some people do...) and it is linux "au naturelle"; all software is delivered as it was provided by its creators. Slackware also has a very lively and friendly community. Give it a try; as they say "Once you go slack, you never go back" ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted May 24, 2004 Veteran Share Posted May 24, 2004 gentoo is all about choice. you choose how you want things done, they don't choose for you. so your answer is there is no branding. :happy: And, if you want to get away from even Gentoo's customizations, you can do Linux From Scratch with a "Vanilla" kernel. Only if these things are a big issue for you. As for me, I am happy with my RedHat-flavored Fedora Core. :yes: Whatever works. (Y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadCap Posted May 24, 2004 Author Share Posted May 24, 2004 I tryed lfs and got bored really fast cuz i want something that is right up to date....i also like fedora core also. lots of promise with it but too many things are locked down and a pain in the ass to unlock...trust me I googled my ass off yesterday on fedora core. Thats just my opinion though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corrosive23 Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 Duh the answer is debian. Apt-get is the best way. It installs the base linux system and if you need anything you just.... apt-get install firebird. and it downloads and installs. Easy as pie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riz360 Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 I'd suggest Slackware! No branding what so ever, very plain and simple ready for you to fit it to your needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nichotin Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 Try arch linux. www.archlinux.org 686 precompiled binaries and all that in a very nice package system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insurektion Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 anything that supports SATA Raid-0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpugeniusmv Posted May 24, 2004 Share Posted May 24, 2004 anything that supports SATA Raid-0? any distro with a 2.6 kernel should be fine with sata raid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted May 25, 2004 Veteran Share Posted May 25, 2004 Duh the answer is debian. Apt-get is the best way. It installs the base linux system and if you need anything you just.... apt-get install firebird. and it downloads and installs. Easy as pie. Disclaimer: I used Knoppix to get to Debian because I can't be bothered to attempt to install Debian directly. What repositories are you using? root@knopbox:/home/knoppix# apt-get install firefox Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done E: Couldn't find package firefox root@knopbox:/home/knoppix# apt-get install firebird Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done E: Couldn't find package firebird root@knopbox:/home/knoppix# I CAN do a apt-get install mozilla-firefox (or mozilla-firebird) but that's only because I've added some unofficial repositories to the standard ones. It still lists the version as 0.8-9 even though my default archive it set to "experimental" and it hasn't changed in weeks. Because of this, I install the nightly builds manually on top of the apt-get firefox location and the good news is that FireFox still appears in the automated Debian menus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tapo Posted May 25, 2004 Share Posted May 25, 2004 MadCap: Try Debian. It's nice, and it has none of the crap. I have plain, vanilla Gnome 2.4, and I love it. They do add a debian menu though, but you can just ignore it and it dosn't get in the way at all. Fred666: It's in unstable main: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/web/mozilla-firefox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted May 25, 2004 Veteran Share Posted May 25, 2004 MadCap: Try Debian. It's nice, and it has none of the crap. I have plain, vanilla Gnome 2.4, and I love it. They do add a debian menu though, but you can just ignore it and it dosn't get in the way at all.Fred666: It's in unstable main: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/web/mozilla-firefox Perhaps it was added to the unstable main about the same time that I added some repos for Fluxbox nightlies and gmplayer. That's still version 0.8-9 :( I started with that version (well I started before that, but it wiped it out to do a clean install) and it installed the automatic entries in the Debian menu system and since them I've been manually installing nightlies overtop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kemical Posted May 25, 2004 Share Posted May 25, 2004 doesnt matter what distro you choose you can install different themes if you dont want to redhat branded theme, or install gnome / kde from source :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiftie Posted May 25, 2004 Share Posted May 25, 2004 I would say get something like Fedora or Slack and if you have to just do a customised install. Thats what I've done for my Fedora and so far so good. Only reason I can see myself going to Windows is to use the day to day basis SW that are MS dependent. Brgs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomn Posted May 26, 2004 Share Posted May 26, 2004 Try arch linux.www.archlinux.org 686 precompiled binaries and all that in a very nice package system. I agree wholeheartedly By my definition it resembles precompiled gentoo. Very clean, very straightforward, and has a package manager similar to very apt-get Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoKo Posted May 26, 2004 Share Posted May 26, 2004 any distro with a 2.6 kernel should be fine with sata raid. Unfortunately most of the motherboards which support SATA RAID-0, are using software RAID, not hardware. So a driver is required to install Linux in such a RAID array. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igodit Posted May 26, 2004 Share Posted May 26, 2004 Duh the answer is debian. Apt-get is the best way. It installs the base linux system and if you need anything you just.... apt-get install firebird. and it downloads and installs. Easy as pie. I second it! Debian GNU/Linux has so far been the best. Build on a base system and put on only what is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadCap Posted May 26, 2004 Author Share Posted May 26, 2004 Well I hit up the gentoo and am now in the midst of installing it...after printing off the 130+ page guide. I've made it to installing Grub and got that work but mucked something with the filesystems up along the way....so off to play with that for awhile. After I'm tired with that or if it just ****es me off I'll give Debian a try. I'm sure there is one out there. I have to say gentoo is the longest install process ever....but at least it forces you to understand the system from the very ground up. Thanx for the help. I'll check back later with another update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackol Posted May 26, 2004 Share Posted May 26, 2004 try Linux From Scratch :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaManXcalibur Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 I'm going to throw in another vote for Slackware. Great distro, less fat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummer Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 I still have to put in a vote for archlinux... http://www.distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=arch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadCap Posted May 30, 2004 Author Share Posted May 30, 2004 Well I do believe I just about have the gentoo sorted out. What A LONG painful install...but very worth it. One of these days I may take a swipe at Debian. Sounds like it has a bunch of support in the forum. For now though looks like its the Gentoo way. And for any newbies I would recommend Gentoo because you do EVERYTHING from the ground up and it FORCES you to LEARN.....everything. Good stuff for lazy people :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xylene Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Debian would be nicer if apt was a pain in the ass sometimes. I used to use Debian, but the stable/unstable/testing bull**** bugged the hell out of me. Gentoo is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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