IceDogg Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 Securtiy and funtion is always going to be a hard one to balance, but I agree they should allow it to be easyly shut off so advance users can turn if off if they need to. Just my 2 Cents :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/192856-xpsp2-will-limit-your-max-connectionssec/page/4/#findComment-2526754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redestium Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 P2P is not legal? Thats news to me.. maybe what you are downloading is not legal.. but as far as I know P2P is probably the next great filesharing technology.. And the internet/webpages could eventually goto a peer to peer type of deal to speed up browsing. BT will be the future I think. It's already showing its worth when FX 0.9 came out and torrents were made to help ease the load of the main server. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/192856-xpsp2-will-limit-your-max-connectionssec/page/4/#findComment-2526814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slimy Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 so uh, how do u fix the problem? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/192856-xpsp2-will-limit-your-max-connectionssec/page/4/#findComment-2530460 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OptiPlex Posted July 21, 2004 Author Share Posted July 21, 2004 so uh, how do u fix the problem? did you read my post in the 1st page? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/192856-xpsp2-will-limit-your-max-connectionssec/page/4/#findComment-2531008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Kompressor Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 now that sucks if that's the case. :crazy: I still want to allow connections if I have say an FTP or fileshare. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/192856-xpsp2-will-limit-your-max-connectionssec/page/4/#findComment-2531037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGazza Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 did you read my post in the 1st page? lol obviously not :p Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/192856-xpsp2-will-limit-your-max-connectionssec/page/4/#findComment-2531159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary_Player Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 I'm cool with them imposing it on compu-ignoramuses but WE, the compu-genius types, need to be able to turn this little feature off. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/192856-xpsp2-will-limit-your-max-connectionssec/page/4/#findComment-2531183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slimy Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 did you read my post in the 1st page? yes, all it has is a possible fix and i don't really know where the registry part of that is located Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/192856-xpsp2-will-limit-your-max-connectionssec/page/4/#findComment-2531202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcticflare Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 Look, guys... this is a GOOD thing. I don't think this is really getting through to you. What this security measure does is put a cap on the number of attempts that can be made to random addresses from your computer by 'corking' the outgoing attempts after a certain number of failures. Why? well it makes sense that if something like sasser is trying to spread by trying to connect to random addresses, there will be a lot of failed attempts because many of the addys it tries to get to won't actually exist. This is good. And a 'workaround' to dissable this.... is bad. That would mean that if you become infected by some new virus that attempts to do what this security measure tries to slow down, your computer would help the threat spread faster and do more damage than the computer belonging to someone who didn't bother to dissable this security measure. That would just be plain stupid. And for the record, this has no effect on p2p programs, since p2p clients don't try to connect to random addresses. Correct me if I'm wrong, guys. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/192856-xpsp2-will-limit-your-max-connectionssec/page/4/#findComment-2531241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samoa Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 I have SP2v2162 installed. I don't find a problem with bandwidth limiting.... :cool: Meaning, I haven't seen the bandwidth being limited on anything. ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/192856-xpsp2-will-limit-your-max-connectionssec/page/4/#findComment-2531258 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dan C Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 I have SP2v2162 installed. I don't find a problem with bandwidth limiting.... :cool: Mmm, I do tho. Whenever I use torrent. My connection keep dropping. Like I give a **** tho :happy: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/192856-xpsp2-will-limit-your-max-connectionssec/page/4/#findComment-2531267 Share on other sites More sharing options...
VG11489 Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 No probs with bandwith Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/192856-xpsp2-will-limit-your-max-connectionssec/page/4/#findComment-2531269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 so uh, how do u fix the problem? Its not a problem it a security fix. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/192856-xpsp2-will-limit-your-max-connectionssec/page/4/#findComment-2531309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zepolcire Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 good move microsoft... this will defently protect the normal user and let face it guys.. we will easly deactivate it... it wont be hard... isnt it better to have it activated as standard? do you think my grandmother will know how to activate it? No she wont, but we do know how to disable it so why complain? Exactamundo! However, maybe a check box under internet options might be nice to enable/disable this procativeness. :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/192856-xpsp2-will-limit-your-max-connectionssec/page/4/#findComment-2531310 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotRoot Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 If I'm not mistaken the TCP Max Con registry key has been around forever, the connection throttle may still be on though. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/192856-xpsp2-will-limit-your-max-connectionssec/page/4/#findComment-2531332 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piepke Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 So many people are complaining about other people how they don't know how to use a PC. Many people who buy a PC just get one that's finished in the shop, but in many cases there isn't any AV software on it. And will those people go to the store to get one? no, unless they hear it from a friend who knows this is needed. Sollution: build AV software in Windows => Result => people complaining about why MS put's crap in their OS. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/192856-xpsp2-will-limit-your-max-connectionssec/page/4/#findComment-2531413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny12345 Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 (edited) Hi First of all, I?m the guy who wrote this at warp2search. I emailed some guy at M$ about the problem and thats what he wrote: "Hello, Thank you for contacting Microsoft Online Customer Service I understand that you wish to switch off the number of TCP/IP connection attempts that can be made to a program. I understand the importance of your issue and look forward to assisting you. As a Customer Service Representative, I have researched and found that if you are working on a network of computers and if the programs are accessed by a number of users, you may have to contact the administrator of the network to reset the settings as he will be in a better position to assist you." I wrote him that i actually ARE the admin of the systems. And now i wait for answer from him. And forget about this registry entry. I checked this out with build 2086 (that was the first XPSP2 i used and the first where i experienced this) already along with "MaxUserPort" and other little switches but it was no go. Waiting for the M$-Guy to respond but don`t think he will know the answer. BTW: I?m in contact with Max A. Kostioukovitch and we are trying to find the solution ourselves. When i find the fix/switch i will post here immediately.. PS: Didn`t think i would cause so much discussion about this cause till now everyone told me "check your router, your PC is crap, your ISP is crap" so i?m glad this problem FINALLY spreads around..... Benny12345 Just tried that reg-entry again for fun and guess what i get when i started emule....: "EventID 4226 TCP/IP has reached the security limit imposed on the number of concurrent TCP connect attempts" Just what i thought.... Edited July 21, 2004 by benny12345 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/192856-xpsp2-will-limit-your-max-connectionssec/page/4/#findComment-2532246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
benny12345 Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 Bad, bad news guys. Just received an email from the M$-guy. The limitation is set in the TCP/IP-stack so unless somebody rewrites the tcpip.sys we`re stuck at this point. he gave me a phone number where i can talk to "professionals" but i don?t live in the USA so the number is useless unless i want to produce a high phone bill.... I think this means goodbye XPSP2......... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/192856-xpsp2-will-limit-your-max-connectionssec/page/4/#findComment-2532580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redestium Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 Writing MS as M$ makes you super cool! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/192856-xpsp2-will-limit-your-max-connectionssec/page/4/#findComment-2532732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrunkenMaster Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 Writing MS as M$ makes you super cool! Who cares how he writes it. I'm ****ed at MS for changing tcpip.sys so some people won't get a virus on their system. Its MS's fault for making a poor security system. Its their fault for not updating IE to make it less vulerable to viruses. I haven't heard of and Unix or Linux kernels which limit the number of incoming/outgoing connections. Any chance on using tcpip.sys from a previous version to get around this? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/192856-xpsp2-will-limit-your-max-connectionssec/page/4/#findComment-2533200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Floyd Veteran Posted July 21, 2004 Veteran Share Posted July 21, 2004 bah there will be some regedit hack to bypass that Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/192856-xpsp2-will-limit-your-max-connectionssec/page/4/#findComment-2533218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redestium Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 Who cares how he writes it. Um, I do. I thought this board had enough class not to resort to such immature spellings, and then have people defend that behavior. Guess I was wrong, my apologies, carry on. :sleep: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/192856-xpsp2-will-limit-your-max-connectionssec/page/4/#findComment-2533259 Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotabigtruck Posted July 21, 2004 Share Posted July 21, 2004 If this is made a registry setting then viruses would just change the registry setting and spread. 0 protection. The only way to implement this would to ask the user if they want to enable or disable this functionality during SP2 setup (if used as a standalone patch), Windows XP setup (if slipstreamed), or the first boot of the computer (if slipstreamed into an OEM install). The OS would proceed to install one of 2 DLL files: one for enabled or one for disabled. If a user changes his/her mind, Microsoft could make a tool that would change the DLLs out. However, the tool would be able 5 MB, take about 5 minutes to complete, and not have a silent mode, so that it would be unfeasible to integrate it into a virus. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/192856-xpsp2-will-limit-your-max-connectionssec/page/4/#findComment-2533558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PseudoRandomDragon Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Oh you poor poor guys using WinXP. Glad I have Win2k. I don't think that MS should have done this, but I think the real purpose of it was to limit P2P as well as worms. And it is going to work, isn't it? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/192856-xpsp2-will-limit-your-max-connectionssec/page/4/#findComment-2533604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
glitch409 Posted July 22, 2004 Share Posted July 22, 2004 Oh you poor poor guys using WinXP. Glad I have Win2k. I don't think that MS should have done this, but I think the real purpose of it was to limit P2P as well as worms. And it is going to work, isn't it? [nelson voice]ha ha, your operating system is obsolete :p [/nelson voice] Um, I do. I thought this board had enough class not to resort to such immature spellings, and then have people defend that behavior. Guess I was wrong, my apologies, carry on. really dont take offence to a spelling someone make half way around the world, ifyour upset by it then you are more imature than he isanyway, on to the main problem here, i have a small amout of confidence that Microsoft will fix this, that is to say about %50 they fix it. but on the bright side, if they dont, there will always be a hack for it :devil: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/192856-xpsp2-will-limit-your-max-connectionssec/page/4/#findComment-2534059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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