~clean Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 (edited) The layout of Hockenheim changed dramatically two years ago. The new track dispenses with the long straights that had become the venue's signature. The idea was to provide better racing, but the drivers had a mixed reaction to the changes. They all agreed it was safer, but many preferred the long, flat-out blasts into the forest, if only because they made the venue unique. Current Standings1 Michael Schumacher 2 Rubens Barrichello 3 Jenson Button 4 Jarno Trulli 5 Fernando Alonso 6 Juan Pablo Montoya 7 Kimi R?ikk?nen 8 Takuma Sato 9 David Coulthard 10 Giancarlo Fisichella 11 Ralf Schumacher 12 Felipe Massa 13 Olivier Panis 14 Mark Webber 15 Cristiano da Matta 16 Nick Heidfeld 17 Timo Glock 18 Zsolt Baumgartner 19 Christian Klien 20 Marc Gene 21 Giorgio Pantano 22 Gianmaria Bruni High speeds and Schumacher?s home track make him my favorite for the win. Unfortunate news for Button Means He will drop 10 places where he qualifies because he had to change his engine due to failuUpdate ~ Qualifying Race RepoSchumacher wins, Button stars Champion pays tribute to hard-charging BAR driver Michael Schumacher fulfilled the hopes of his horn-blasting, red-capped countrymen with the 81st victory of his career and the third in his home race, but afterwards he admitted that Jenson Button had been a very serious threat. Had the Englishman started from his third slot in qualifying, instead of dropping 10 places because of the valve problem that required his BAR to have a Honda engine change on Friday, it is possible that he would have been celebrating the first win of his Formula One career. As Schumacher grabbed an early lead, Button made little headway from 13th and was only 12th at the end of the lap. Instead it was Fernando Alonso who led the chase for Renault, until a flying Kimi Raikkonen overtook him on lap two. The Finn then gave valiant chase after the Ferrari as Jarno Trulli chased his team mate, hounded in turn by David Coulthard. Already Rubens Barrichello?s afternoon had gone haywire when he took his front wing off on the back of the Scot?s McLaren on the first lap. The Brazilian never got higher than ninth, and stopped with a puncture (after a late off) just before the finish line. Front row starter Juan Pablo Montoya made a poor start and could thereafter aspire to little better than his eventual fifth place, and in the early going it was McLaren v Renault in Schumacher?s wake. The first signs of Button?s speed came when Alonso was the first to pit on lap nine, followed by Schumacher, Trulli, Coulthard and Takuma Sato on lap 10. Raikkonen came in on lap 11, followed by Montoya. All that let fast-starting Mark Webber lead briefly for Jaguar before he stopped on lap 12, by which time Button had risen to second place. In a car that was good enough to qualify third quickest despite a greater fuel load, he stayed out until lap 14, and when the music stopped he was fifth as Schumacher led Alonso, Coulthard and Montoya after 15 laps. By then Raikkonen had made a spectacular exit after crashing heavily in Turn One at the start of lap 14 when the main plane of his McLaren?s rear wing simply tore away, pitching him into a wild spin and subsequent contact with the wall. He was lucky to walk away unharmed. Button caught the group fighting for second and moved up to fourth when Montoya ran wide on lap 21, then steadily tracked down Coulthard. The Scot pitted again on lap 28, together with Schumacher and Trulli, then Alonso refuelled on lap 29, handing the lead back to the BAR. Button stayed out until the 34th lap, and his return to the track triggered a fabulous dice with Alonso, who just regained second place behind Schumacher as the BAR came out of the pits, having overtaken Coulthard during its stop. Now Button and Alonso indulged in some fabulous side-by-side racing as the Englishman tried the inside, then the outside, going into the hairpin. At one stage the white car nosed ahead, but Alonso had the line for the next corner and edged ahead again. It was proof that Formula One racing is far from dead and dull. Further back Webber had disposed of an off-form Trulli but was embroiled in his own fight with Takuma Sato, who spun entering the stadium on lap 31, and Antonio Pizzonia who also had an off there and lost time earlier on. Both were now coming back with a vengeance, but the Australian would keep his cool. In the closing stages the final stops would repeat the previous scenario. Schumacher, Alonso and Coulthard stopped on lap 47, Button on 50, and again he came out right alongside Alonso. This time he was able to dive down the inside on the left-hander after the hairpin, and as Alonso faded momentarily with a peculiar aerodynamic imbalance that prompted him to wonder at one stage if his front wing had actually fallen off, Button got clear. In the closing laps the Englishman had his own problem, as a loose helmet strap threatened to strangle him, but kept his foot down to chase Schumacher home. Asked if he?d had any problems, the world champion replied, looking across at Button: ?Yeah, he?s sitting next to me!? Compliments don?t come much higher than that. Coulthard got close enough during Alonso?s problem to make a couple of stabs at taking the final podium slot, but the Spaniard recovered to score valuable points for Renault. It was nevertheless a great drive from Coulthard, who finished well ahead of Montoya. Webber was an equally deserving sixth, with Pizzonia boosting his value by snatching seventh from Sato on lap 60. Fisichella finished a disappointed ninth for Sauber, never really on the pace and hampered in his second pit stop by the need to retain his left rear tyre after the wheel stuck on the hub, but only got the place when Barrichello stopped in sight of the line. In a race shortened a lap (from 67 to 66 laps) after Olivier Panis?s new Toyota died on the initial grid, Christian Klien finished 10th after a feisty performance, Trulli was a demoralised 11th (after having his Renault?s nose changed after it trapped debris from Raikkonen?s McLaren under the car), Barrichello was classified 12th, Felipe Massa soldiered home an unhappy 13th, and Panis recovered from a series of problems to set fourth fastest lap while finishing 14th. Giorgio Pantano was 15th (after losing time with a puncture) from the Minardis of Zsolt Baumgartner and Gianmaria Bruni. Besides Raikkonen, the only retirements were Cristiano da Matta, whose Toyota blew its right rear tyre and spun him off at the hairpin on lap 39, and Nick Heidfeld?s Jordan succumbed to a suspected suspension problem on the 43rd lap. ?It was a tough one,? Schumacher admitted, ?but I was always in a safe situation in terms of distance though I couldn?t foresee what might have happened. Jenson got stuck behind Alonso, and at that stage I couldn?t be sure what times he could do. He was going quite quick, so I was a little bit concerned and was pushing flat out to make sure I didn?t leave anything open and then be sorry later.? ?Considering that I only expected to be fifth come the end of race, not second, I?m very happy,? Button said. ?This year it?s been very difficult to come through the field; you see people lose 10 grid places and it gets very difficult, so I was not holding out too much hope. It wasn?t the best first lap of the year, either. I tried to move up but actually moved back after locking my wheels and going off, but it made the race very exciting. It was the best one of my career, but I have to admit that I?m disappointed because if I had started where I qualified we would have had a good chance to challenge Michael. It?s tough to come to terms with that, bUpdate ~ Added Qualifying Results.ancesUpdate ~ Added Race Results. Added Qualifying Results. Update ~ Added Race Results. Edited July 25, 2004 by daveS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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krmathis Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 I would bet my money on Michael Schumacher on German GP as well! He is simply on another level than his competitors this year. (Y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMeK Veteran Posted July 24, 2004 Veteran Share Posted July 24, 2004 i want button to win :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~clean Posted July 24, 2004 Author Share Posted July 24, 2004 i want button to win :) Me 2 but the fact hes now 13th after the 10 Place drop means hes got some hard work to do ! But Good Luck to him .. You can do it ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avogadro Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 What is the webpage with all this data ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycan Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 all my money on Kimi Raik?nnen!!:pp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krmathis Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 What is the webpage with all this data ? My guess: http://www.formula1.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomwarren Veteran Posted July 24, 2004 Veteran Share Posted July 24, 2004 wow nice post, thanks :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mariusu Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 go kimi & mclaren :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~clean Posted July 24, 2004 Author Share Posted July 24, 2004 go kimi & mclaren :) Im Liking Kimi alot atm, esp with The new Mclaren. Its running very nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~clean Posted July 24, 2004 Author Share Posted July 24, 2004 My guess: http://www.formula1.com Its a mixture of sites bbc, itv f1, alpha F1 and F1.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OPaul Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 ...or http://www.grandprix.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irisys Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 I want Fernando Alonso to WIN !! ;) question? anyone know the best F1 Game for PC , at the moment? or is expected tobe released a new F1 game for PC? thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecion Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Irisys, F1 2002 and Grand Prix 4 are ment to be best. I've only played F1 2002 - and its great. I've always supported mclaren, so i want them to do well tomorrow. if not, renault are my second favorites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
~clean Posted July 24, 2004 Author Share Posted July 24, 2004 I want Fernando Alonso to WIN !! ;) question? anyone know the best F1 Game for PC , at the moment? or is expected tobe released a new F1 game for PC? thank you Unfortunaly Sony own the F1 licence now so theres no new F1 games due on the PC but give GP4 a go and download the Season and GFX updates ( Alpha F1 ) and dan da 2004 Season F1 Game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0m8er Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 I would bet my money on Michael Schumacher on German GP as well!He is simply on another level than his competitors this year. (Y) :jump: Agreed! Michael Schumacher should win. He is the best pilot I've ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycan Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 Kimi Raik?nnen will win!!! i still believe in him ...THE true successor of Hakkinnen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0m8er Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 We will know the leader in about 2 hours! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanekiwi Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 my dad is watching it next door on our big tv. i don't like formula 1. it's just people racing in cirlces and getting paid millions for that :no: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0m8er Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 Can't agree with you! It's awesome! Everybody has its own favorite sport, I don't like Football personally. 66 laps to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lycan Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 damn it , raik?nnen out:(( , turned off the tv now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b0m8er Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 Yeh! That was really stupid knock-out. Crashed spoiler. But as long as Shumacher remains in... I'm watching it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dt26 Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 my dad is watching it next door on our big tv. i don't like formula 1. it's just people racing in cirlces and getting paid millions for that :no: you can say that about every sport though. Football is just a bunch of men kicking a air filled bit of leather round a patch of grass and getting paid millions for it. [Repeat for other sports] Poor build quality on Raikonnen's wing there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizbit Posted July 25, 2004 Share Posted July 25, 2004 i want Button to win but I dont think that Micheal willl be beaten this year (assuming reliability), which is unfortunate for the sport. On the other hand have you watched the MotoGP? Now theres a sport of kings and u=its well entertaining to watch. F1 challenge is the best F1 game for the PC, It gives you 4 seasons to race in and there are lots of mods available. I recommend the ETCC mod that rocks. Al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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