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the funny thing is... what microsoft are doing with longhorn, Apple did with OSX 5 years ago. everyone here is so mesmerised with the graphic abilities of the up and comming longhorn but they've been on the market for longer than windows 2000 has been. go figure :huh:

-The Unknown

the funny thing is... what microsoft are doing with longhorn, Apple did with OSX 5 years ago. everyone here is so mesmerised with the graphic abilities of the up and comming longhorn but they've been on the market for longer than windows 2000 has been. go figure?:huh::

-The Unknown

yup, that's what I've been saying. Those effects are hardly new. Mac OS X does those things since 2001, and they're keep getting better, smoother and using less resources every year (10.0, 10.1, 10.2, 10.3, 10.4 etc.). It's kinda funny that a more than 100 billion dollar company like Microsoft has so much trouble with getting those new technologies on track.

actually it is because MIcrosoft has a bigger set of hardware to support. If microsoft made the minimum requirement for Windows XP to a Pentium 4 2.8 GHz+ proc, of course it can support these effects and more, but the problem is that it worked for a much lower set of minimum requirements so that it can sell Windows to more people

what a strange topic to make conceptual images of.... a court case

oh well

Actually, its not. In 1999 Microsoft produced a series of 5minute videos picturing where they see technology in 5 years. The videos introduced the Smart Phone, Physical .Net Passport, more unified Longhorn-ish interface, and Windows connectivity. In one of the segments a guy on a buisness trip gets repeatidly hit by bike messengers. So perhaps the 'court case' is centered around that video or similar internal joke about bike messengers..... are they big in Redmond or something? I didn't remember seeing any.

yup, that's what I've been saying. Those effects are hardly new. Mac OS X does those things since 2001, and they're keep getting better, smoother and using less resources every year (10.0, 10.1, 10.2, 10.3, 10.4 etc.). It's kinda funny that a more than 100 billion dollar company like Microsoft has so much trouble with getting those new technologies on track.

Windows supports a much much much larger base of hardware than Apple. OS X can be built knowing the computer will at least have x and x componenets, Windows needs to support a large number of processors and even more components. Getting something out the door that will work well everywhere is not easy. If Microsoft built their own hardware and required it to run their operating system I assure you that the quality will be upped.

You naive mac users why do you think Longhorn is all about the 3D? I'm so tired of this non-sense! Anyway it will support pixel shaders, not seen that in OSX. The Windows APIs are f.ex. WAY better than the ones in any Apple OS and will just get better by the time Longhorn is out, that sort of stuff interests developers and they are what make windows so great.

KayMan2K, you said it. I was yelling the exact same thing at someone a few days ago who kept insisting that MS being such a rich and big company cannot make a stable OS.

"Its not how many people make the car or how much money is spent on it. Its what road the car is going to run on, and whether the people who make the car know that road or not, that makes the difference in stability."

Personally I'd blame the ever evolving hardware market for any of the stability issues in Windows. If MS knew the exact hardware config and perhaps even manufactured most of them, stability wouldn't even be a topic of discussion. (By stability issues i mean crashes etc, not security - don't flame me that!)

- Aalaap

the funny thing is... what microsoft are doing with longhorn, Apple did with OSX 5 years ago. everyone here is so mesmerised with the graphic abilities of the up and comming longhorn but they've been on the market for longer than windows 2000 has been. go figure :huh:

-The Unknown

Why do people always have to drag that kind of crap in???

We are discussing Longhorn not MacOSX for godsake........ get a life.

I agree with the OS X comment. It's far superios to what Longhorn looks like now...but, the point is that Microsoft is FINALLY paying attention to the visual appeal of their OS (for the first time?). So, while I definitely like OS X better than Windows, I really do hope Longhorn blows everything out of the water.

:no: I hope nobody kills me. :no:

Does anyone think that MS will COMPLETELY get rid of all traces of their prior OSes? I mean, icons and everything? I have a feeling that, just like XP, they'll keep some stuff hidden that most people don't ever see but really bugs people like me who accidentally find them...i.e., in Windows XP, the "Install Font" dialog box IS STILL from Windows 3.x...very unprofessional. I still see old XP icons in the Longhorn beta shots, and I'm wondering what everyone else thinks they'll do: redraw/recreate everything or recycle some old stuff... :huh:

Does anyone think that MS will COMPLETELY get rid of all traces of their prior OSes? I mean, icons and everything? I have a feeling that, just like XP, they'll keep some stuff hidden that most people don't ever see but really bugs people like me who accidentally find them...i.e., in Windows XP, the "Install Font" dialog box IS STILL from Windows 3.x...very unprofessional. I still see old XP icons in the Longhorn beta shots, and I'm wondering what everyone else thinks they'll do: redraw/recreate everything or recycle some old stuff... :huh:

Why reinvent the wheel, if it works and it doesn't need to be improved why change it?

Why reinvent the wheel, if it works and it doesn't need to be improved why change it?

Because people like me like quality, and the only reason I upgraded to XP, was the pretty colors...and my job demanded to at least look like I'm working. I get annoyed still when I see icons that aren't XP-ized....

That is my rant, and also: Very cool files earlier that got somehow lwft out of the conversation.

Does anyone think that MS will COMPLETELY get rid of all traces of their prior OSes? I mean, icons and everything? I have a feeling that, just like XP, they'll keep some stuff hidden that most people don't ever see but really bugs people like me who accidentally find them...i.e., in Windows XP, the "Install Font" dialog box IS STILL from Windows 3.x...very unprofessional. I still see old XP icons in the Longhorn beta shots, and I'm wondering what everyone else thinks they'll do: redraw/recreate everything or recycle some old stuff... :huh:

It won't surprise me if "clock.avi" will still be in Longhorn.

rofl wtf is with that stupid clock.avi? were they planing to make a sidebar with a clock in windoes 3.1 or some thing? and whats with that stupid search torch in explorer,... or the windows 95 folders wehn downloading or transfering files,... gosh ms can be lame some times,... they cant let go,... or are they ment to be easter eggs :p

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