mattmatik Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 http://msn.foxsports.com/story/2650862 What is going on with these NFL rookies? I can understand a player wanting to wait awhile to see how the other picks deal with their teams, but for someone to get offered a higher salary than a pick HIGHER than you, how do you turn it down? I like Philip Rivers, I enjoyed watching him in college, but this is ridiculous. The poor Chargers are really getting screwed this year and the season hasn't even started. And I don't even want to mention Kellen "Souljah" Winslow. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/201495-nfl-chargers-pull-offer-to-rivers/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayepecks Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 Don't get me started on Winslow. I don't see what Rivers problem was... from what I understand the deal he was offered was pretty damn good. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/201495-nfl-chargers-pull-offer-to-rivers/#findComment-584332104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kainashi Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 seems rookies this year think they're entitled to huge contracts without ever playing a down in the nfl. makes me sick. :crazy: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/201495-nfl-chargers-pull-offer-to-rivers/#findComment-584332233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobsgrg Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 Until just before the draft Rivers was only considered to be a low first round choice, some people thought he might get drafted by Green Bay. He impresses in a few work-outs, gets drafted 4th by the Giants and all of a sudden he seems to think he seems to think he deserves some mega dollar salary from the Chargers. He's been offered more money than Gallery who was drafted 2nd, and he turns it down. I'm no chargers fan but i think Rivers behaviour is indefensible. Frist Manning refuses to play for the Chargers, so they trade him for Rivers, now Rivers refuses to sign a great contract. I feel so sorry for the Chargers, no team should be treated like that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/201495-nfl-chargers-pull-offer-to-rivers/#findComment-584334024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Veteran Posted August 10, 2004 Veteran Share Posted August 10, 2004 How many times have great College QBs turned out to be busts in the NFL (and vice versa)? Yet that is what these guys are expecting - essentially payment for being a good college level QB! Chargers are getting screwed. They don't seem to have good luck recently with high QB draft picks now do they (Ryan Leaf)? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/201495-nfl-chargers-pull-offer-to-rivers/#findComment-584334266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobsgrg Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 After Ryan Leaf they decided not to draft a QB so high so they drafted Drew Brees, well he turned out to be a disappointment, so they drafted high again, and now they can't even sign him. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/201495-nfl-chargers-pull-offer-to-rivers/#findComment-584334552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
axis Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 Brees can play, he is just in SD. But I hate rookies getting $20 million and not even playing in the league yet. The NFL needs to set a rookie limit, alot don't even play enough the first year. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/201495-nfl-chargers-pull-offer-to-rivers/#findComment-584334734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hupp Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 good, these players are too damn money hungry, no team should pay a person that much as a rookie for gods sake he could become a Ryan Leaf Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/201495-nfl-chargers-pull-offer-to-rivers/#findComment-584336645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chad Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 Don't blame this all on Rivers. From what I understand, SD claimed they offered good money to Rivers, but actually haven't. It's the same type of crap they pulled with Manning. Their trying to save their own asses (SD) so they publicly criticize the player. I haven't heard a dollar amount here, so I really don't know where the blame lies, but it sounds like both parties have a negative hand in this. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/201495-nfl-chargers-pull-offer-to-rivers/#findComment-584336886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatnipOligarchy Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 San Diego just cant get it right with the first pick first leaf, then vick, now manning/rivers Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/201495-nfl-chargers-pull-offer-to-rivers/#findComment-584337573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaticX Posted August 10, 2004 Share Posted August 10, 2004 San Diego just cant get it right with the first pickfirst leaf, then vick, now manning/rivers yep, i agree. :yes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/201495-nfl-chargers-pull-offer-to-rivers/#findComment-584337737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattmatik Posted August 10, 2004 Author Share Posted August 10, 2004 Don't blame this all on Rivers. From what I understand, SD claimed they offered good money to Rivers, but actually haven't. It's the same type of crap they pulled with Manning. Their trying to save their own asses (SD) so they publicly criticize the player. I haven't heard a dollar amount here, so I really don't know where the blame lies, but it sounds like both parties have a negative hand in this. Bet you it's coming down to guaranteed money and/or the signing bonus. Contracts in the NFL are never disputed over the actual dollar amount, but over the guaranteed money; so, if a player gets hurt or sucks, he'll still have the few cool million in his pocket. I wouldn't be surprised if San Diego might be putting in performance clauses as well. Since they've been screwed in the past they probably won't want to give an insane amount of money up front to Rivers. I can't remember which player it recently was, but his actual pay was only like $900,000 for the year, but with his performance clauses and such, he made about $2.2 million. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/201495-nfl-chargers-pull-offer-to-rivers/#findComment-584338086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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