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It isn't actually. It supports ECMA-262 100%, plus loads of extensions. You are calling it "poor" because it happens to not implement your pet wishes but that doesn't make it poor, objectively speaking.

I'm not referring to the standardized version of JavaScript, ECMAScript, I'm talking about realistic functionality, not objective support. It's like Mozilla who runs around claiming that they support the :after psuedo-selector in CSS and the float rule, but you cannot use them together, that isn't full support, and neither should Opera's JavaScript implementation be considered full support.

The day when I can stream XML data to the page once every hour, parse the results, add another bar to an SVG chart, then slide the chart to the right a little bit to uncover the last-created bar, then update the bottom to show the latest win/loss ratio for clients, and allow several people within the taskforce work together on a project online using a project management system which tells them who's working on which task/milestone of the project, and allow them to communicate effectively by using forms like those on message boards where things actually insert where they're supposed to, THEN I'll say that it has good support for JavaScript. I could care less about 100% ECMAScript support if it doesn't support the DOM just as good, you can't make a sandwich if you've only got the bread. What I speak of is possible in Internet Explorer, Mozilla, Netscape, Safari, etc. but not Opera. Until that day comes, I will not consider Opera of having good JavaScript/DOM support.

Look, calling Opera's JS and DOM implementations "poor" just shows that your judgement is clouded by your own subjective opinion, which actually can't be generalized to make such a statement about Opera.

Opera's JS is fine, as is its DOM support. You shouldn't go around spreading misinformation just because your pet features aren't implemented.

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I have been using this preview version as my main browser since it was released. I have not had one crash or had any problems with it whatsoever. The only reason I still have the 7.54 version installed is I don't want to tranfer my emails accross and run any risk of loosing them.

Same, been using 7.60 Preview 1 since release. Another great feature is that it no longer randomly crashes when you limit how much memory it uses. ;)

Agreed, loving the preview. Can't wait for the new series! They get better and better! :D :happy:

I just rolled back to 7.54.

Don't know if the beta build is to blame, but I'm having weird issues where Opera is starting to use over 50 Megs of RAM and taking 3 minutes to open. Cleaned the cache, changed the cache size, etc. These tricks work, for only about a week. :pinch:

Might be SP2 hurting it, might be my cache is ridiculously large, or it might just be the beta build. Tell you in a week.

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