KZWings Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 Probably as no surprise to many of us, the NHL has canceled the 2005 All-Star game thats played in February. Also, the NHL has told all 30 arena to book events up through December. Which means if there is anything at all of the '04-'05 season, it won't be before Decemeber. What a waste. :angry: :angry: And a total of 245 NHLers are in Europe playing. And some others playing in the AHL. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/239724-nhl-season-or-lack-of-update/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroChaos Veteran Posted November 4, 2004 Veteran Share Posted November 4, 2004 (edited) man, i was just reading about this today... really sucks. i'm disappointed in everyone involved. at least try to work something out, don't just sit there and do nothing. **** all of you. it's not about the money, it's not about players, it's not about the owners. it's about the sport of hockey and the fans who love to watch. /edit oh, and they keep referring to the guys who went to europe as "scabs" and "traitors". does the european league really pay that much? if i had to guess they aren't doing it for the money, but just to play competitive hockey. and whats up with your name KZWings? i think of the kalamazoo wings AHL hockey team when i see that. Edited November 4, 2004 by BroChaos Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/239724-nhl-season-or-lack-of-update/#findComment-584859970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KZWings Posted November 4, 2004 Author Share Posted November 4, 2004 and whats up with your name KZWings? i think of the kalamazoo wings AHL hockey team when i see that. 584859970[/snapback] You aren't the first to think that ;) "KZ" is actually my initials. "Wings" for the Detroit Red Wings. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/239724-nhl-season-or-lack-of-update/#findComment-584860069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji@nBing Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 I agree. This is complete BS. They don't even have any talks scheduled and haven't met since Sep.9. At least respect your fans enough to put some effort into getting the thing resolved. How do they expect that to happen when they are not talking for 2 months? Both sides are just being so selfish. I'm in China now and don't get hockey here, but I would still like to at least listen to the games on internet radio Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/239724-nhl-season-or-lack-of-update/#findComment-584860113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroChaos Veteran Posted November 4, 2004 Veteran Share Posted November 4, 2004 You aren't the first to think that ;) "KZ" is actually my initials. "Wings" for the Detroit Red Wings. 584860069[/snapback] oops, looks like they are UHL now... someone else here has heard of kalamazoo?? :blink: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/239724-nhl-season-or-lack-of-update/#findComment-584861591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
unique Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 yoooooooooooooooooo GO NHLPA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/239724-nhl-season-or-lack-of-update/#findComment-584861595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatnipOligarchy Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 =\ .. the game was in atlanta this year, i was really hoping to go up there for either the game or some of the fanfest type stuff.. oh well.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/239724-nhl-season-or-lack-of-update/#findComment-584863488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.... Posted November 4, 2004 Share Posted November 4, 2004 oops, looks like they are UHL now...someone else here has heard of kalamazoo?? :blink: 584861591[/snapback] I have. Oh...congrats. :ninja: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/239724-nhl-season-or-lack-of-update/#findComment-584863503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted November 5, 2004 Veteran Share Posted November 5, 2004 oh, and they keep referring to the guys who went to europe as "scabs" and "traitors". does the european league really pay that much? if i had to guess they aren't doing it for the money, but just to play competitive hockey. 584859970[/snapback] Who are they? The players are NOT on strike so it's no skin off the nose of other NHLers. The only thing the NHL players are doing in europe is putting some other guys (245 of them) out of work. If someone is going to complain it would be the sub-NHL players that were already in Europe (i.e. Corey Hirsch, former goaltender of the Canucks) Some of them in Europe are making decent coin. Yes, european salaries are less than the players would usually make but they are not unlike the salaries that Bettman would like to see in the NHL. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/239724-nhl-season-or-lack-of-update/#findComment-584865360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TokeratorX Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 This RedWing fan is deeply saddend by the lack of NHL hockey :( Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/239724-nhl-season-or-lack-of-update/#findComment-584865400 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hills420 Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 I'm going through withdrawls without my hockey. I wish they would televise the AHL/ECHL games or the Russian league games (Kovalchuk) JESUS!!! GIVE ME HOCKEY!!! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/239724-nhl-season-or-lack-of-update/#findComment-584865418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroChaos Veteran Posted November 5, 2004 Veteran Share Posted November 5, 2004 I have.Oh...congrats. :ninja:a: 584863503[/snapback] hehe, thats cool. spent pretty much my whole life in kalamazoo, only other famous person from there is jete:p:p oh, and thanks:ninja:a: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/239724-nhl-season-or-lack-of-update/#findComment-584865458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayepecks Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 oops, looks like they are UHL now...someone else here has heard of kalamazoo?? :blink: 584861591[/snapback] I have, too. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/239724-nhl-season-or-lack-of-update/#findComment-584865581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
black.ops Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 I want me hockey! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/239724-nhl-season-or-lack-of-update/#findComment-584865643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatnipOligarchy Posted November 5, 2004 Share Posted November 5, 2004 when it will really sink in is after football is over and before baseball.. nothing on but basketball? :x Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/239724-nhl-season-or-lack-of-update/#findComment-584865807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroChaos Veteran Posted November 5, 2004 Veteran Share Posted November 5, 2004 when it will really sink in is after football is over and before baseball.. nothing on but basketball? :x 584865807[/snapback] oh god, don't even say that.... nba is awful... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/239724-nhl-season-or-lack-of-update/#findComment-584865829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted November 7, 2004 Veteran Share Posted November 7, 2004 Can't they put some of those European Elite games on TV in the meanwhile? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/239724-nhl-season-or-lack-of-update/#findComment-584880580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calidude Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 What's the latest on the lockout? :unsure: I haven't heard anything recently and was wondering if anyone here had heard anything either... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/239724-nhl-season-or-lack-of-update/#findComment-584922367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroChaos Veteran Posted November 15, 2004 Veteran Share Posted November 15, 2004 i haven't heard anything recently either... i just remember reading that it's rolling cancellation of games... i'm sure there's about a 1% chance of any season at all this year... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/239724-nhl-season-or-lack-of-update/#findComment-584922457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvbfan Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 Still not talking. :angry: :argue: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/239724-nhl-season-or-lack-of-update/#findComment-584922464 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calidude Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 Dang that sucks. :( Was hoping to see my local teams (Kings / Ducks) play at least a few games this year... :whistle: Could someone briefly tell me what caused this whole mess? I have only been recently following this so I don't know how it all got started. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/239724-nhl-season-or-lack-of-update/#findComment-584923421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisibro Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?id=1882464 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/239724-nhl-season-or-lack-of-update/#findComment-584925338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
calidude Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?id=1882464 584925338[/snapback] Thank ya muchly. :) I had a feeling it had to do with salaries or something similar. But what I don't get is that NHL players are paid comparatively smaller amounts than other sports (i.e. NFL, MLB, etc.) What I would like to know is if the standard for what is considered to be "excessive" salaries for each sport varies depending on the sport or not... :whistle: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/239724-nhl-season-or-lack-of-update/#findComment-584926056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattmatik Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Well, all I know is that officials for the HP/Compaq Center aka "The Shark Tank" have gone ahead and scheduled a bunch of entertainment stuff to take place through January. Since the All-Star game is in February, halfway through the season, I'm going to say there will be no season and quite possibly, no more NHL. If the two sides were really determined to fix this, they would have and we would be hearing about progress. Poor Steve Levy is back doing SportsCenter now. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/239724-nhl-season-or-lack-of-update/#findComment-584927511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattmatik Posted November 16, 2004 Share Posted November 16, 2004 Thank ya muchly. :) I had a feeling it had to do with salaries or something similar. But what I don't get is that NHL players are paid comparatively smaller amounts than other sports (i.e. NFL, MLB, etc.) What I would like to know is if the standard for what is considered to be "excessive" salaries for each sport varies depending on the sport or not... :whistle: 584926056[/snapback] It has to be determined by the particular sport. Part of the problem with the NBA right now (and especially the past few years) is that they are SEVERELY over-spending on players. This past off-season was different in the fact that those players who wanted top-dollar did not get it. They mentioned this during one of the Warrior games last week that NBA franchises are not going to take risks with anybody anymore. If you pay some guy $60mil over 5 years, and he is hurt or plays like crap for even one of those years, you've lost money. But, merchandise, ticket sales, etc. are all handled differently by each sport as well. NHL simply doesn't make enough revenue to compete with the Big 3 therefore, they can't pay their players what they want (there has to be a mutual agreement, though, as to what is proper salary). In my opinion, this is one of the most disorganized lockouts/strike that I've heard of in professional sports. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/239724-nhl-season-or-lack-of-update/#findComment-584927565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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