[NHL] Season (or lack of) Update

[KZWings]

Probably as no surprise to many of us, the NHL has canceled the 2005 All-Star game thats played in February.

Also, the NHL has told all 30 arena to book events up through December. Which means if there is anything at all of the '04-'05 season, it won't be before Decemeber.

What a waste. :angry: :angry:

And a total of 245 NHLers are in Europe playing. And some others playing in the AHL.

[BroChaos Veteran]

man, i was just reading about this today...

really sucks. i'm disappointed in everyone involved. at least try to work something out, don't just sit there and do nothing.

**** all of you. it's not about the money, it's not about players, it's not about the owners. it's about the sport of hockey and the fans who love to watch.

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oh, and they keep referring to the guys who went to europe as "scabs" and "traitors". does the european league really pay that much? if i had to guess they aren't doing it for the money, but just to play competitive hockey.

and whats up with your name KZWings? i think of the kalamazoo wings AHL hockey team when i see that.

Edited November 4, 2004 by BroChaos

[KZWings]

and whats up with your name KZWings?  i think of the kalamazoo wings AHL hockey team when i see that.

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You aren't the first to think that ;)

"KZ" is actually my initials. "Wings" for the Detroit Red Wings.

[Ji@nBing]

I agree. This is complete BS. They don't even have any talks scheduled and haven't met since Sep.9. At least respect your fans enough to put some effort into getting the thing resolved. How do they expect that to happen when they are not talking for 2 months? Both sides are just being so selfish. I'm in China now and don't get hockey here, but I would still like to at least listen to the games on internet radio

[BroChaos Veteran]

You aren't the first to think that  ;)

"KZ" is actually my initials. "Wings" for the Detroit Red Wings.

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oops, looks like they are UHL now...

someone else here has heard of kalamazoo?? :blink:

[unique]

yoooooooooooooooooo GO NHLPA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CatnipOligarchy]

=\ .. the game was in atlanta this year, i was really hoping to go up there for either the game or some of the fanfest type stuff.. oh well..

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oops, looks like they are UHL now...

someone else here has heard of kalamazoo?? :blink:

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I have.

Oh...congrats. :ninja:

[Fred Derf Veteran]

oh, and they keep referring to the guys who went to europe as "scabs" and "traitors".  does the european league really pay that much?  if i had to guess they aren't doing it for the money, but just to play competitive hockey.

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Who are they? The players are NOT on strike so it's no skin off the nose of other NHLers. The only thing the NHL players are doing in europe is putting some other guys (245 of them) out of work. If someone is going to complain it would be the sub-NHL players that were already in Europe (i.e. Corey Hirsch, former goaltender of the Canucks)

Some of them in Europe are making decent coin. Yes, european salaries are less than the players would usually make but they are not unlike the salaries that Bettman would like to see in the NHL.

[TokeratorX]

This RedWing fan is deeply saddend by the lack of NHL hockey :(

[Hills420]

I'm going through withdrawls without my hockey. I wish they would televise the AHL/ECHL games or the Russian league games (Kovalchuk)

JESUS!!! GIVE ME HOCKEY!!!

[BroChaos Veteran]

I have.

Oh...congrats.&nbsp:ninja:a:

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hehe, thats cool. spent pretty much my whole life in kalamazoo, only other famous person from there is jete:p:p

oh, and thanks:ninja:a:

[Ayepecks]

oops, looks like they are UHL now...

someone else here has heard of kalamazoo?? :blink:

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I have, too.

[black.ops]

I want me hockey!

[CatnipOligarchy]

when it will really sink in is after football is over and before baseball.. nothing on but basketball? :x

[BroChaos Veteran]

when it will really sink in is after football is over and before baseball.. nothing on but basketball? :x

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oh god, don't even say that....

nba is awful...

[Fred Derf Veteran]

Can't they put some of those European Elite games on TV in the meanwhile?

[calidude]

What's the latest on the lockout? :unsure: I haven't heard anything recently and was wondering if anyone here had heard anything either...

[BroChaos Veteran]

i haven't heard anything recently either...

i just remember reading that it's rolling cancellation of games...

i'm sure there's about a 1% chance of any season at all this year...

[rvbfan]

Still not talking. :angry: :argue:

[calidude]

Dang that sucks. :( Was hoping to see my local teams (Kings / Ducks) play at least a few games this year... :whistle:

Could someone briefly tell me what caused this whole mess? I have only been recently following this so I don't know how it all got started.

[invisibro]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?id=1882464

[calidude]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/columns/story?id=1882464

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Thank ya muchly. :)

I had a feeling it had to do with salaries or something similar. But what I don't get is that NHL players are paid comparatively smaller amounts than other sports (i.e. NFL, MLB, etc.) What I would like to know is if the standard for what is considered to be "excessive" salaries for each sport varies depending on the sport or not... :whistle:

[mattmatik]

Well, all I know is that officials for the HP/Compaq Center aka "The Shark Tank" have gone ahead and scheduled a bunch of entertainment stuff to take place through January. Since the All-Star game is in February, halfway through the season, I'm going to say there will be no season and quite possibly, no more NHL.

If the two sides were really determined to fix this, they would have and we would be hearing about progress.

Poor Steve Levy is back doing SportsCenter now.

[mattmatik]

Thank ya muchly. :)

I had a feeling it had to do with salaries or something similar.  But what I don't get is that NHL players are paid comparatively smaller amounts than other sports (i.e. NFL, MLB, etc.)  What I would like to know is if the standard for what is considered to be "excessive" salaries for each sport varies depending on the sport or not... :whistle:

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It has to be determined by the particular sport. Part of the problem with the NBA right now (and especially the past few years) is that they are SEVERELY over-spending on players. This past off-season was different in the fact that those players who wanted top-dollar did not get it. They mentioned this during one of the Warrior games last week that NBA franchises are not going to take risks with anybody anymore. If you pay some guy $60mil over 5 years, and he is hurt or plays like crap for even one of those years, you've lost money. But, merchandise, ticket sales, etc. are all handled differently by each sport as well.

NHL simply doesn't make enough revenue to compete with the Big 3 therefore, they can't pay their players what they want (there has to be a mutual agreement, though, as to what is proper salary). In my opinion, this is one of the most disorganized lockouts/strike that I've heard of in professional sports.