Make Lycos' "Make Love not Spam" run in background

[attila the hun]

It seems Lycos has really pulled the plug. Oh, well, we're not back to square one, at least. Lycos did its part of the job and gave the coders a great idea. I hope this idea becomes an Open Source project at Sourceforge with a distributed and mirrored 'spam-sites-list'.

[Destian]

It seems Lycos has really pulled the plug. Oh, well, we're not back to square one, at least. Lycos did its part of the job and gave the coders a great idea. I hope this idea becomes an Open Source project at Sourceforge with a distributed and mirrored 'spam-sites-list'.

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What makes you think they've pulled the plug?

[kyro]

ahh ok ok .. so all of us r getting stay tuned ... i thought my isp did something and the screensaver went belly up.

[attila the hun]

I don't remember where (it was in some site mentioned in Google News), but it said Lycos removed the spammer site list from their server, even though the screensaver which needs that list, is still downloadable. :blink:

I hope they're now working on a more feasible solution. One, that demands less upstream traffic from ISPs, I guess.

[empty]

What makes you think they've pulled the plug?

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the site is down?

[oddcrap]

It seems Lycos has really pulled the plug. Oh, well, we're not back to square one, at least. Lycos did its part of the job and gave the coders a great idea. I hope this idea becomes an Open Source project at Sourceforge with a distributed and mirrored 'spam-sites-list'.

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They could of, but we don't know this for a fact. "Stay Tuned" usually means there updating or upgrading. Not always means that their going to leave us.

[ripn]

They could of, but we don't know this for a fact. "Stay Tuned" usually means there updating or upgrading. Not always means that their going to leave us.

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If anyone wants a copy I have a download mirror...

http://home.insightbb.com/~makelovenotspam/

The spammers can run but they cant hide :)

[xxdesmus]

when the genuises at lycos decide that two wrongs actually make a right, rocket scientists they are not.

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well said ;)

[rvbfan]

,Nov 29 2004, 14:33]when the genuises at lycos decide that two wrongs actually make a right, rocket scientists they are not.

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Exactly we need to clog the web even further.

[kyro]

awww common... wtf is this...... why do u sympathise the spammers .. and talking bout clogging net .. take the porn sites down.... that will free it ... but let go spammers free without doing anything is like saying let go saddam ....

[attila the hun]

Clog the web?? The traffic caused is nothing compared to overall traffic. If anyone gets clogged here it's the spammers' site the company that hosts that sort of bullsh!t. Besides, you always pay a price for remedy. Spammers do this for profit. Not all of them are juvenile hackers. Make it unprofitable, and they'll stop. Simple as that.

[lordtoran]

Apparently, we have to stay tuned because of this :(

If you can read German:

http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/53923

And a (nastily) Google translated version:

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=ht...Flanguage_tools

MLNS brought two Chinese servers down by accident.

[Zirus]

Making this an open source project is a good idea because lycos could potentially get sued for a program like this. But with open source, there is no one to blame.

[lordtoran]

Good idea. Such a program could connect to a spammer's website via a randomly chosen anonymous proxy server (to distribute the load between them). Like MLNS, this prog should not DoS, just steal them bandwidth. The problem is to obtain SpamCops' up-to-date blacklist. Access to the list costs $1000 a year.

[Advance]

It would be abused if used as open source.

[Des429]

No matter how you look at it, its a DDoS attack. Theres no way this would have survived, and it didn't. If you read in some places, its been shut down. Tis a shame though, it was a great idea. but i bet it will be copied by someone and distributed illegally. Oh well good while it lasted.

[realmcoy]

Yeah, I'm not too trusting of Lycos. For all we know, Lycos could be run by 3 teenage prodigies hell bent on global domination after finding out that S.C. doesn't exist.

[Rudy]

this program is the dumbest thing since bonzy buddy

[Des429]

How so? It's already shut down 3 major spam sending websites. Thats why its been shut down. So it worked affectively, just wasn't legal. Unless you like spam... then I guess it WAS bad idea.

[OmG]

this program is the dumbest thing since bonzy buddy

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hahah hey! Bonzy Buddy was cool :p :whistle:

[Des429]

It was, but it was also filled with spyware :(

[Rudy]

How so? It's already shut down 3 major spam sending websites. Thats why its been shut down. So it worked affectively, just wasn't legal. Unless you like spam... then I guess it WAS bad idea.

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i dont like spam but i dont believe DOSing the spamers is a good solution

[i3x171um]

few things to clear up:

1) makelovenotspam is a flash animation, noting more

2) it uses an xml syndicate to get statistics to the program, located at http://backend.makelovenotspam.com (which is currently offline).. on the xml file was a list of ten out of sixty possible sites at one time (it would change depending on who they were attacking)

3) to get statistics data back to the server, it would request pages like http://backend.makelovenotspam.com/095295-...8205/05-TJ8249/ (no matter what directory you requested, the same xml file was returned, but the server could parse data from those directory requests)

4) when the service originally went down, the xml file was rewritten to have a preplanned "Stay Tuned" message display, making the client darken and display the message, but they eventually took the xml file down altogether.. that's why you see the "cannot connect to server" message now

5) and this is probably the most important one, IT WILL BE BACK once they resolve host issues (source)

I would *love* to see an opensource third party do something like this, and offer a client.. I wrote my own c/winsock client to get rid of the limitations that the screensaver imposes before it went down, but looks like I won't be using that for a while

[attila the hun]

i dont like spam but i dont believe DOSing the spamers is a good solution

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Spammers probably couldn't agree more. :laugh:

This is the first solution that got the spammers worried. Period.

If anyone who doesn't like this idea, could offer an alternative, I truly would like to listen. :whistle:

[lordtoran]

5) and this is probably the most important one, IT WILL BE BACK once they resolve host issues (source)

Today's news say MLNS has been cancelled ... :cry: Lycos used the screensaver to revive the discussion about spam.

Source (German)

http://www.n-tv.de/5458742.html

Google translation

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=ht...Flanguage_tools

It would be OK to base an OS project on it, but within a 100% legal scope.