thecableguy Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 please help i dont know which is better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Circaflex Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 9600XT by far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdlazarte Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 ATI 9600 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 im by no means an expert anymore with gfx cards. its got too much for me in the last few years trying to follow them :D if its a normal run of the mill 5600, i'd think the XT would be superior. not sure if 5600 ultra's are any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonComet Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 9600xt over any 5600 and the 5700 ultra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lardiop Veteran Posted December 10, 2004 Veteran Share Posted December 10, 2004 9600XT by far. Don't even look at them twice (Y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2687 Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Definitely 9600XT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stncttr908 Veteran Posted December 10, 2004 Veteran Share Posted December 10, 2004 9600XT > 5600 9600XT vs. 5700 series is a much more fair comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insurektion Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 I think it goes something like ATI 9600 vs. 5700 Ultra ATi wins DX9 nVidia is up there for the OpenGL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notuptome2004 Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 a friend iof mien owns a 5600ultra and in halflife 2 it runs in Dx8 mode the Fx cards no matter witch one will only run DX8. Fx is not a true Dx9 card therfor in games sutch as HL2 it will only be detected as a Dx8 card. oh by the way the 9800 pro is now 178$ or so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin.B Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 a friend iof mien owns a 5600ultra and in halflife 2 it runs in Dx8 mode the Fx cards no matter witch one will only run DX8. Fx is not a true Dx9 card therfor in games sutch as HL2 it will only be detected as a Dx8 card. oh by the way the 9800 pro is now 178$ or so 585075973[/snapback] So the FX5900, 5950, 5700 Ultra and 5800 don't run in DX 9? Really... Anyways, the Radeon 9600 XT hands down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob2687 Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 a friend iof mien owns a 5600ultra and in halflife 2 it runs in Dx8 mode the Fx cards no matter witch one will only run DX8. Fx is not a true Dx9 card therfor in games sutch as HL2 it will only be detected as a Dx8 card. oh by the way the 9800 pro is now 178$ or so 585075973[/snapback] Just because HL2 doesn't default to DX9 with that card doesn't mean it doesn't support it at all. DX9 blows on the FX cards so they just set it to dx8 by default. All you have to do is use to -dxlevel 90 command to change that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrilix Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Just because HL2 doesn't default to DX9 with that card doesn't mean it doesn't support it at all. DX9 blows on the FX cards so they just set it to dx8 by default. All you have to do is use to -dxlevel 90 command to change that. 585076053[/snapback] Actually, you have to do more than that since doing only that can cause rendering problems. Don't ask me...that's what I've read around the place for Half-Life 2. As for any other games, who wants to buy a card that doesn't run DX9 well and by default runs DX8 so you have to change the settings? Just take it easy, get a 9600 XT or 9800 Pro, and let the card do its work without having to bother with anything else. 9800 Pro also scores better than the 5900s in benchmarks, so why bother with the entire FX series which has larger and noisier cards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islanq Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 The 5600 is actually based off of the FX5200 core and doesn't get an upgrade untill the FX5700. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notuptome2004 Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 9600xt is agood card so get that if it is all you can afford. the 5600 agian is just a wast of money . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psybapunk Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 joke? hehe, 9600 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvbfan Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Not even close, 9600XT for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daviesbad04 Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 I bought a 5600, wasnt a waste for me........Id go for FX for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psybapunk Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 ^ yeah well, its 25 to 0 in favor of the better card. ATI wins by a landslide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argote Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 Well why do you wan't 256MB, that level of cards don't use more than 128MB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notuptome2004 Posted December 10, 2004 Share Posted December 10, 2004 wasant a wast for you since you prolly dont play many games and dont care if the game runs in Directx 9 . the Fx series fault lies in the design of the GPUs missing structur and features/ hardly floitingpont caculation of any type witch are essintial to a Directx 9 pipeline an order to succefully caculate advanced data types and shaders. now without FP types or Pipeline evan if half the Pipline is FP based if ther is not enough register space for the Data types being imputed to the Pipeline and since only half is FP based then right at a point it losses connection to the type of data trying to render and then just uses a backboned version of the Pipeline witch would be Directx 8. the Fx series has Partial FP pipeline but only lest say 1 Slice of Pie is not the whole pie or half. evan if the Fx had a full FP caculation pipeline and supported Directx 9 the microsoftway not Nvs. propriotery Dx9 codeing . it would have not had the register space to store the data needed the performance would have still been a big issue. Now this should really help . i know lengthy but i tried to be a little techniclle about why it dosant support Dx9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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