BroChaos Veteran Posted December 15, 2004 Veteran Share Posted December 15, 2004 Well the video is a good evidence. Enough so thatweb site are using it as a proof of allegations.:))ABC and a half! 585099325[/snapback] one video does not prove that everything sony makes is crap, like several people are claiming. keep trying and a half! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/256973-psp-defects-reported/page/4/#findComment-585102803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
deiong15 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 got a ds to give it a test run and its got jst as much bugs as wwas reported with the psp. i usually dont buy a electronic til its been aroudn for at least four months. those ones usually have less kinks then first few runs. had to send my ds back it wouldnt even run. so i think im gonna wait til probably 3 to 4 months after the psp has been in japan til i buy an import. and we all know all the complaints from psp are from imports anyways. could have easily been damaged by curriers Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/256973-psp-defects-reported/page/4/#findComment-585102819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaPrime Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 does the umd actually fly out? from the vid, the slot just pops open and the umd slides out. it doesnt fly out and thus "hit someone in the eye" 585102561[/snapback] It only flys out when you are holding the PSP so it faces down (as in the second video they updated it with). Otherwise when you're holding it upright (as in playing it normal) it just pops open, that's all. Not a defect, more like stupidity if you're trying to break your new $200 handheld. People are just grasping at straws here. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/256973-psp-defects-reported/page/4/#findComment-585102822 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGeorge Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 And you have proof to back up this statement? Every piece of Sony equipment I have (TV / Amp / DVD / PS2 / PStwo) are top notch and have never failed once.Sony are definately (Y) 585097968[/snapback] Then you are an exception because I and alot of people have nothing but problems from Sony hardware. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/256973-psp-defects-reported/page/4/#findComment-585102835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroChaos Veteran Posted December 15, 2004 Veteran Share Posted December 15, 2004 i know people who have lots of problems with every brand ever made. people are just overreacting. no company is exempt from this. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/256973-psp-defects-reported/page/4/#findComment-585102840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGeorge Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 i know people who have lots of problems with every brand ever made. people are just overreacting. no company is exempt from this. 585102840[/snapback] True, but Sony excels at the practice. I treat my stuff with surgical precision BTW. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/256973-psp-defects-reported/page/4/#findComment-585102851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroChaos Veteran Posted December 15, 2004 Veteran Share Posted December 15, 2004 i wonder what % of stuff is actually made by sony though. unless it's a big name, image item, it's probably done OEM by someone else. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/256973-psp-defects-reported/page/4/#findComment-585102860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeR Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 what video is everyone talking about? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/256973-psp-defects-reported/page/4/#findComment-585102874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eilegz Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Everyone is asking why you'd twist a PSP. This is supposed to me a mobile product, right? Let's say you have your PSP in a backpack or pocket and it gets twisted a little for whatever reason. Out pops the cartridge and now you really have a possibility of ripping out the whole mechanism.As far as the first batch thing, companies have extensive testing laboratories. If the mass public starts accepting shody workmanship because it's "first run", then we might as well be their testing lab and get paid for it. Release a beta or something. Let people know it's not the best you can do. Unfortunately, the reality is that the accountants jump in and want to start making a resturn on their research dollar and (thanks to people like the ones posting here) there is no backlash to releasing a bad product because, hey, it''s "first run". 585099140[/snapback] Agree im not a DS or PSP fanboy but this its bad for sony :rolleyes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/256973-psp-defects-reported/page/4/#findComment-585102923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ji@nBing Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 I've already said this and I'll say it again. I have had nothing but problems with every Sony product I've ever owned, and I've owned a lot of them. I keep giving them a chance for some unknown reason. It is the same for all my friends and family. All of thier Sony products have broken within a year as well. I take very good care of my stuff, so it's not like I am beating the crap out of it and it breaks. Even if that were so, why has my Panasonic cd player lasted 3 years and on 3 seperate occasions my Sony cd players have had something go wrong with them in 6 months? Same with headphones, speakers, a camera, and an original PS. I'm not a fanboy, I'm buying neither console, but how can anyone compare the quality of Nintendo's products to Sony's? My NES and SNES STILL run great to this day. Those of you that have had good success with Sony, godd for you, you're lucky. But that definitely hasn't been my experience and everyone I know. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/256973-psp-defects-reported/page/4/#findComment-585103061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiEMOS Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 I did not read any of the replies on this thread, but i just wanted to say. Whatever the defects/problems with PSP there are now -- will be gone when psp comes to US. so just chill out and wait for usa psp which most probably will be exactly as its suppost to be. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/256973-psp-defects-reported/page/4/#findComment-585103084 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BroChaos Veteran Posted December 15, 2004 Veteran Share Posted December 15, 2004 I've already said this and I'll say it again. I have had nothing but problems with every Sony product I've ever owned, and I've owned a lot of them. I keep giving them a chance for some unknown reason. It is the same for all my friends and family. All of thier Sony products have broken within a year as well. I take very good care of my stuff, so it's not like I am beating the crap out of it and it breaks. Even if that were so, why has my Panasonic cd player lasted 3 years and on 3 seperate occasions my Sony cd players have had something go wrong with them in 6 months? Same with headphones, speakers, a camera, and an original PS. I'm not a fanboy, I'm buying neither console, but how can anyone compare the quality of Nintendo's products to Sony's? My NES and SNES STILL run great to this day. Those of you that have had good success with Sony, godd for you, you're lucky. But that definitely hasn't been my experience and everyone I know. 585103061[/snapback] and for every person like you, there's another who has bought tons of sony stuff, and it all still works great. my portable sony cd player i bought in 1998 still works fine. but so what? i'm sure there are lots of cd players from 1998 still working. the point is, like someone said before, every new product has had problems. every sony, nintendo, microsoft, whatever product. so there's really no point in arguing. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/256973-psp-defects-reported/page/4/#findComment-585103097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
krazeguy Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 A large amount of 'Sony' product is made by Sanyo. VCR's and Playstaions are alot. The PS2 Sanyo lasers often get replaced in service for far superior quality Sony lasers. Often the PS2's that come in to service are either faulty SANYO laser (which sony replace free of charge) or people have kicked/dropped/knocked them, and on the odd occasion a main board fault. In my opinion Sony's Marketing dept is probably much bigger than the engineering one! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/256973-psp-defects-reported/page/4/#findComment-585103174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMD60305 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Some people are obviously ignoring bigger details here. Others are focusing on one point. I just watched the second video in which a person was playing RidgeRacer. The disk seems to pop out with relative ease. IE there is no extreme change in color of the nails or fingers to show excessive pressure. Given that it is being held at a downward angle, what's to say that a PSP isn't thrown in a backpack at a downward angle? The fact that the PSP ejects the disk and still functions normally shows that there is a faulty in the locking mechanism. I have a sony dv camcorder and I honestly do not like the force required to put in a tape, however it's secure at every angle. Anyways, there is another video in which the PSP turned on but nothing happens. This is another problem I think even moreso than the former. Also, the placement of the buttons seems to be interesting and mind you it is not in Japanese, and unless they made various versions of the hardware having buttons placed at different lengths from the screen, that is something that affects all PSP's. Something like this should have came up while they were testing the product. Also, Sharp makes the screens, so it's not necessarily Sony's fault for bad pixels. I believe the same is likewise with Apple's bad products as well, such as a batch of powerbook batteries manufactured by LG. The DS' problem seems to only be dead pixels, which I highly doubt it is Nintendo that manufactures the LCD's. My experience with Sony's products leads me to have expected this. My friend has gone through many PS2 lasers. Not exactly sure why that is the most prevailant problem, but Sony doesn't seem to do too well on certain types of it's lasers. Also, Sony's battery problems are not only with the PSP. I've seen a laptop made by Sony that guaranteed at least 2 hours of battery life. It was a feature rich laptop and was over 2,000 USD, but regardless, for that price, a better battery wouldn't hurt, and it is probably the same source for the PSP battery. Also, if these people did infact import those systems, they may have payed much more than people are posting here. Perhaps the Japanese notice these flaws and prefer not to publicly acknowledge it as well, Regardless, the PSP has problems, those that payed more than what it's worth seem to be disgruntled and Sony has yet to respond. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/256973-psp-defects-reported/page/4/#findComment-585103260 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galbi Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 No worries mates! They have plenty of time to fix it before a decent title for it ships. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/256973-psp-defects-reported/page/4/#findComment-585103489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHAirforce05 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 In deed they do. Also does anyone know where you can pre-order the Value Pack? EB games is only pre-ordering the PSP (non valued). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/256973-psp-defects-reported/page/4/#findComment-585103513 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABC Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 one video does not prove that everything sony makes is crap, like several people are claiming. keep trying and a half! 585102803[/snapback] I never said that. RTFL! :D ABC and a half! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/256973-psp-defects-reported/page/4/#findComment-585104548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charisma_ Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Then you are an exception because I and alot of people have nothing but problems from Sony hardware. 585102835[/snapback] Im not the only exception, like you, I know people who have never had a problem. Try not to be so narrow minded ! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/256973-psp-defects-reported/page/4/#findComment-585104559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
..... Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Bit of an issue with the square button too... As you can see, it's off-centre, and sticks over a portion of the LCD screen. This means that the button can't be fully pressed down, doesn't register presses properly, and could potentially crack the screen over time. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/256973-psp-defects-reported/page/4/#findComment-585104574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nav1 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Is it just me, or is it totally wrong that people say "it's ok that the PSP is SO buggy" (or any other device) just cause it's the first generation? Cause I think whenever you buy stuff from such a high profile company, I think the least you would expect is to get a quality product. I mean, can someone that actually paid the $$ for a PSP state that "oh, it has a lot of bugs, and I'll probably have to buy another one, but I don't care cause it's first generation". That's just wrong to me, or I might just be wrong. What do you think? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/256973-psp-defects-reported/page/4/#findComment-585104593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaPrime Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Bit of an issue with the square button too... Damn, that sucks. How would Sony fix that? I mean they'd have to reposition some of the other buttons or something. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/256973-psp-defects-reported/page/4/#findComment-585104594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
nav1 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Bit of an issue with the square button too...http://www.gamesarefun.com/consoles/psp/square.jpg As you can see, it's off-centre, and sticks over a portion of the LCD screen. This means that the button can't be fully pressed down, doesn't register presses properly, and could potentially crack the screen over time. 585104574[/snapback] Actually, I read somewhere that those pics were discovered to be fake, and photosoped. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/256973-psp-defects-reported/page/4/#findComment-585104597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
..... Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Nope, it matches up perfectly with lik-sang's opened unit too. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/256973-psp-defects-reported/page/4/#findComment-585104614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGeorge Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Im not the only exception, like you, I know people who have never had a problem. Try not to be so narrow minded ! 585104559[/snapback] Who are these two people? LOL! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/256973-psp-defects-reported/page/4/#findComment-585104620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABC Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Actually, I read somewhere that those pics were discovered to be fake, and photosoped. 585104597[/snapback] Tell your sources, if not it's total BS!ABC and a half! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/256973-psp-defects-reported/page/4/#findComment-585104839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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