Making the switch

[Southern Patriot]

just to ad to this for future reference. You will find the best PC games get ported and only a little bit of crap gets through. So even though there is a small selection, the selection we have are normally the best selling games on PC.

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To quote someone on Yahoo's message boards:

What do Mac gamers call PC gamers? Beta testers.

[Southern Patriot]

I just got me a Mac mini, but I have question that would make me cancel depending on the answer.

My understanding that the video card will not support some Tiger features (i.e. Image Core), will Apple release an updated Mac mini that will have a better video card for this?

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There is a common misunderstanding or misinterpretation about this. CoreImage and CoreVideo will work on most modern cards, they just won't have all of the features and/or won't have full acceleration on them. The technologies are designed to scale to the capabilities of the card.

Core Image information from Apple

Edited January 13, 2005 by roadwarrior

[enklus]

I've just placed the order. :D

/waiting.....

[BTallack]

I'm seeing at least a couple mods making the switch. With this many mods hanging around the Mac section, trolling should be pretty much eliminated. :D

[Vice]

There is a common misunderstanding or misinterpretation about this.  CoreImage and CoreVideo will work on most modern cards, they just won't have all of the features and/or won't have full acceleration on them.  The technologies are designed to scale to the capabilities of the card.

Core Image information from Apple

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Yup.

You may remember in the Tiger demo when he played with widgets it had that ripple effect. My 800MHz iBook's 9200 mobility does not support core image and so that effect just does not happen.

But the zooming of widgets jumping on screen / off screen and the way the widget called World clock flips round all work fine.

As you say the os will scale to what the hardware can do.

[Hurmoth]

As you say the os will scale to what the hardware can do.

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That's awesome! To bad Windows doesn't do that :ermm:

[Vice]

I'm sure if Microsoft could they would but since there are so many OEM's and so many different types of hardware it is more difficult for them. for instance there are 1000+ different windows Motherboards and it would take them a long time to note down every single one and what it can do..

Apple know what they are aiming at since they make all there own computers.

But it is bad that Windows cannot offer such functionality. :(

[Steve]

That's awesome! To bad Windows doesn't do that :ermm:

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From my understanding, Aero in Longhorn will have a similar setup. I think i read they'd be like 3 levels of Aero, which scale depending on the capabilities of the system. So Windows will do the same thing. Right now it'd be pointless considering Windows doesn't have ANY neat effects that require a modern day machine to render... :laugh:

[VGVL]

Yup.

You may remember in the Tiger demo when he played with widgets it had that ripple effect. My 800MHz iBook's 9200 mobility does not support core image and so that effect just does not happen.

But the zooming of widgets jumping on screen / off screen and the way the widget called World clock flips round all work fine.

As you say the os will scale to what the hardware can do.

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My PowerBook can do the ripple effects fine, does that mean Core Image will run properly?

[Steve]

My PowerBook can do the ripple effects fine, does that mean Core Image will run properly?

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I would probably say yes. To be sure, you'd need to specify the video card. I'd assume it's probably a Radeon 9700 Mobility, which is definitely fully Tiger compatible. :)

[motn]

something that might help

http://www.apple.com/macosx/tiger/technology.html (there is a pdf)

[PureEdit]

This card is incredibly dated on the PC but because apple controls the hardware and the software you'd be surprised at how insanely well it will play games.

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Yep, even halo run pretty well on 1ghz powerbooks with 32mb gfx cards.