Holden vs Ford

[Chode]

This is mostly for the Australians of us here at Neowin. This is an age-old Australian question, and one that I take pride in been the first to ask here:

Holden or Ford?

(I voted Holden. Commodore is teh win (Y))

[+Mud W1ggle Subscriber²]

The Australians?

You know other countries have Holdens too

Guess which way I voted.

[Chode]

The Australians?

You know other countries have Holdens too

Guess which way I voted.

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Whoops, forget you Kiwis ;).

[+Mud W1ggle Subscriber²]

Whoops, forget you Kiwis ;).

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You'd think I might rise to the bait, but we all know that Australisns have that inferiority complex

:cool:

[nwBen]

OM*G! HOLDEN R0X0RS TEH BIG ONE!!11one1

:D

[Japlabot]

Honestly, they both suck. 'V8 Supercars' competition just makes hype that both of these are good brand cars. In reality, they are just regular quality cars, more expensive than what they're worth, and generally more inefficient than other manufacturers.

When I was shopping around for a new car, the Ford salesman's major selling point was that "It's a Ford", and the Holden salesmen was strutting around in Holden V8 supercar polotops, not actually helping genuine buyer such as myself thinking that the cars sell themselves because they are Holden.

The only real selling point is uniqueness that they are cars specific to Australia (and NZ and Saudi Arabia), but that's null and void because both companies are American owned anyway.

[ConfusedFusion]

Holden. Commodore all the way mate.

[imtoomuch]

Holden because it's GM. We got a Holden in the States, it's called the Pontiac GTO. ;)

[Skittlebrau]

I like the Holden Commodore myself.

[dafox]

wow quick reply i could rip apart jus about everything u said but i wont cause its about to rain and im not risking me pc. the only thing which i agree is they are both owned by general motors.

[DarkMindsProject]

well the only US Holden is the new GT0 which looks like a gradPrix and needs a retuned 350hp ls2 to match a 320hp mustang that you can get or 3k cheaper, or spend 2k more and get a Cobra and make the GTO look stupid.

For the price of the Holden "GTO" you can get better cars. It doesnt impress me any.

Price------Car--------1/4 Mile---HP----Engine size

30k Mustang Mach1: 13.2------320----4.6l

33k Pontac GTO: ----13.2------400----6.0l

35k Mustang Cobra: 12.8------390----SC 4.6l

[dj6ross]

I voted Ford.

I was watching one of these races recently on Speed Channel and one of the drivers hit a kangaroo that was crossing the track. Did anyone else see it? That thing really flew after getting hit.

[Long]

Holden. Their designs most of the time are ahead of Ford's :p

[DarkMindsProject]

Holden. Their designs most of the time are ahead of Ford's :p

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ahead? dude our(usa) grandPrix has looked like that for like 4yrs over here lol

[Keldyn]

Holden (Y)

[vincent]

ford :blush:

[kombolcha]

wow quick reply i could rip apart jus about everything u said but i wont cause its about to rain and im not risking me pc. the only thing which i agree is they are both owned by general motors.

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who's owned by GM? I know Holden is, but Ford is its own company who owns 7 other car companies.

I voted Ford, sadly the GTO here in the US is just crap.. it looks like any other Pontiac car and there are tons of cars that can out perform it and also cost less.

[Chode]

Those in the US shouldn't really have a say on this, considering that they don't get half of the Holden's that us in Australia/New Zealand do.

[Makeshift Hammer]

Arent holden owned by GM who own ford anyway? :p

Yup : Holden's parent company, General Motors Corporation, is the world's largest vehicle manufacturer. GM has manufacturing operations in 32 countries and its vehicles are sold in almost 190 countries.

They own everyone it seems :p http://www.gm.com/

Edit : Ford aren't owned by GM..my bad http://www.ford.com/en/default.htm

Edited January 15, 2005 by take_the_veil

[AcdShdw]

Those in the US shouldn't really have a say on this, considering that they don't get half of the Holden's that us in Australia/New Zealand do.

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uhh we are GM. which owns ford and is Holden too...

[vincent]

Ford own itself, they own mercury, lincoln, and a few others

[kombolcha]

WTF where are you people getting these ideas that GM owns Ford? :wacko:

Ford owns:

Lincoln

Mercury

Land Rover

Volvo

Jaguar

Aston Martin

Mazda

and bout 25% ownership of Kia.

GM is made up of.

Chevrolet

Pontiac

Buick

Oldsmobile (believe it or not it is still alive)

Cadillac

Saturn

GMC

Hummer

saab

Opel

Holden

... and that's all i know.

On the american side i can tell you from experience that Ford cars are built better than GM cars.

[oldmate15]

Not much of a fan of either. I used to be a big Holden fan. Used to follow Peter Brock in the V8 Supercars.

[ozgeek]

Honestly, they both suck. 'V8 Supercars' competition just makes hype that both of these are good brand cars. In reality, they are just regular quality cars, more expensive than what they're worth, and generally more inefficient than other manufacturers.

When I was shopping around for a new car, the Ford salesman's major selling point was that "It's a Ford", and the Holden salesmen was strutting around in Holden V8 supercar polotops, not actually helping genuine buyer such as myself thinking that the cars sell themselves because they are Holden.

The only real selling point is uniqueness that they are cars specific to Australia (and NZ and Saudi Arabia), but that's null and void because both companies are American owned anyway.

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Maybe you don't know about them but they are a much improved version of their regular versions. Designed for Racing. Much like you rice up your own cars in NFS Underground. My parents has a Ford Falcon XR6 and I would say it's a lot more powerful than the regular BA builds. My parents's car's engine has 24 cyclinders (Dad told me) where as the regular version would only have 6. So the V8 Supercars are more powerful than my mum's and dad's car.

I'd go for Ford because I always know they are reliable. :D

[kombolcha]

Maybe you don't know about them but they are a much improved version of their regular versions. Designed for Racing. Much like you rice up your own cars in NFS Underground. My parents has a Ford Falcon XR6 and I would say it's a lot more powerful than the regular BA builds. My parents's car's engine has 24 cyclinders (Dad told me) where as the regular version would only have 6. So the V8 Supercars are more powerful than my mum's and dad's car.

I'd go for Ford because I always know they are reliable. :D

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ROFL :rofl: 24 cylinders :rofl: are you sure its not 24 valves?

V8 = 8 cylinders

V6 = 6 cylinders