John S. Veteran Posted May 18, 2002 Veteran Share Posted May 18, 2002 Yeah that's it, roll over and give up because someone spoke out about your including somone elses (wallpaper, winamp skin) in with your port and not stating it wasn't your own. Attack my integrity, I suppose rating 4-500 uploads a month means I haven't a clue what I'm talking about. Attack my age if you like, but I was born in '67, do the math. The original theme is beautiful, the port was done well, if you give up it's your own fault. I can be reached on most anytime... adonai321 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/27181-hacked-seer-v1/page/3/#findComment-249374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
moshi Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 Originally posted by moshi phobic: that is the the point. just download this Hacked Seer and look at the readme: "This is not totally original. It was just edited to fit next to the winamp skin for seer. If this is violating anyones copyright or anything send me an email at: [email protected]" it is quite obvious that redrope does neither give credit to the original creator of Seer (Essorant), nor did he ask him if he could use his design. see: people are posting huge amounts of text on this forum. why not sending a mail to Essorant, telling him that you like his art, why you like his art, why you want to do a port/conversion and attach the skin and/or a screenshot of what you have done? what?s wrong with that? > you call that a flame? sorry about that. maybe my first post could be taken as offensive, the second definetly not. on the first: well, i do not really see a point in having three Seer EzPop skins. if you want to change it for your own needs, that is cool. but is there really a need to post it. Russ is a top notch skinner. on the second: that redrope does not give credit to essorant is plain to see. i am sure he will do that next time. the main thing in the second post is, that you really should contact Essorant before you offer some stuff using his art. it is his creation, remember? as far as i know him he is a very nice and humble person, so why don?t you contact him first? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/27181-hacked-seer-v1/page/3/#findComment-249504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockz Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 I wish that were possible, but unfortunately we're getting flamed by a couple of kids from the other side of the net. It's tough to deal with somebody when you can't even talk over the issue to their face. I wish there was someway we could fix this, but redrope doesn't want to deal with this anymore, and I agree with him. We really had a lot coming, but unfortunately people like these ruin it for the rest of the crowd. Sorry fellas. Exactly... people get me sooo ****ed when they go on and on about how they feel about it. If they don't like what you did, then fine. The should say it. But then they shouldn't go on and on about it. They made their statement, we read how they feel... now shut it!. I personaly thought it was cool, and since the modifiers were going to include the credits and all that stuff in the final release, then people shouldn't be complaining. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/27181-hacked-seer-v1/page/3/#findComment-249525 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp00nman Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 Originally posted by adonai Yeah that's it, roll over and give up because someone spoke out about your including somone elses (wallpaper, winamp skin) in with your port and not stating it wasn't your own. Attack my integrity, I suppose rating 4-500 uploads a month means I haven't a clue what I'm talking about. Attack my age if you like, but I was born in '67, do the math. The original theme is beautiful, the port was done well, if you give up it's your own fault. I can be reached on most anytime... adonai321 We're not "giving up." Just sick and tired of having to put up with people like you. I'd much rather do something else than work hard on something just to hear it get criticized. We didn't include a winamp skin (?) or a wallpaper (?) so I'm confused on where you're going with that. Rating 4-500 uploads a month? Attacking your integrity? Look, you got what you OBVIOUSLY wanted, and that was for us to discontinue the project because were weren't giving propper "credit." I don't think you've gotten the clue yet: I DONT CARE ABOUT WHO YOU ARE, WHAT YOU DO, AND WHERE YOU LIVE. WHATEVER YOU SAY IS MOST LIKELY A LIE, SO DONT INSULT MY INTELLIGENCE. Geez. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/27181-hacked-seer-v1/page/3/#findComment-249528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrope Posted May 18, 2002 Author Share Posted May 18, 2002 Yea honestly adonai. You are 33 and obsessed with computers, and you are trying to rip on me. Why the **** do you care what we do. There was not one wallpaper or winamp skin included. So what the **** are you talking about. Thats bull****. And also, you say the original port was beautiful, and we are rolling over and quitting. Are you saying ours wasnt good? Other people seemed to like it, so maybe your head is to far up your ass. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/27181-hacked-seer-v1/page/3/#findComment-249535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 ok is this a joke? this adonai guy is a dork. i mean come on! back when i made styles i would go through a huge collection of wallpapers i had (most i didnt even get myself) and see what went good with the style. then i would add it to the style when i made it available for download. there is nothing wrong with that. a line is crossed when someone TRYS to take credit for someone else work. the guys that made this hacked seer didnt do that. god, i wish more people would keep their opionion to them selfs. your discouraging them from trying to put together a good theme/style. that bothers me, i am using this hacked seer right now only b/c this guy went through the trouble of modding it so nicely. just pick something else to ***** about. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/27181-hacked-seer-v1/page/3/#findComment-249553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockz Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 i wish more people would keep their opionion to them selfs. your discouraging them from trying to put together a good theme/style. Agreed, the complainers are just wanting to start trouble. :right: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/27181-hacked-seer-v1/page/3/#findComment-249559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 hey adonai man you better get on to kol... i mean his new style underlining.... its got this wallpaper, and well no cerdit omg! make him take it down! hahaha:D :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/27181-hacked-seer-v1/page/3/#findComment-249585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Dragon Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 Ah, man, this sucks... I just discovered Seer original and it kick a$$, I'm sure hacked would be awsome... I guess I'm too late. Oh, and adonai, who are you to judge him? At least he made something people liked... Either say something good, say something constructive, or don't say anything at all... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/27181-hacked-seer-v1/page/3/#findComment-249599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qarth Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 I can't believe you took it down. RETARTED. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/27181-hacked-seer-v1/page/3/#findComment-249602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp00nman Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 I'm talking to redrope as we speak... I'm seeing if we can re-release it and continue the project as planned. Don't get your hopes up, just pray. :old: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/27181-hacked-seer-v1/page/3/#findComment-249605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Dragon Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 Even though I'm as mad at adonai as anyone else (and I didn't even make or dl the skin) I have to agree with Qarth... How can you let just one or two misguided individuals discourage you from making something that is so obviously liked? -Edit- Oh, ok... N/m then..... *Prays* -Edit Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/27181-hacked-seer-v1/page/3/#findComment-249611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 well even if you dont, everyone who wants the style will get it. i'll send it to whoever wants it Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/27181-hacked-seer-v1/page/3/#findComment-249612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S. Veteran Posted May 18, 2002 Veteran Share Posted May 18, 2002 Originally posted by redrope Yea honestly adonai. You are 33 and obsessed with computers, and you are trying to rip on me. Why the **** do you care what we do. There was not one wallpaper or winamp skin included. So what the **** are you talking about. Thats bull****. And also, you say the original port was beautiful, and we are rolling over and quitting. Are you saying ours wasnt good? Other people seemed to like it, so maybe your head is to far up your ass. I hope your artwork is better than your math...that would be 35. You think only kids such as yourself enjoy pcs? Not one wallpaper or winamp skin included, ok...better check the link http://www.themexp.org/uploads/vs/Seer.zip again. Nice to see the wallpaper has been renamed to give Dangeruss credit. That's all I ever complained about. If you'd read half of what I said maybe you'd be a bit less vitreolic: "The original theme is beautiful, the port was done well" Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/27181-hacked-seer-v1/page/3/#findComment-249620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 wait!! what about kol?? your goign to yell at him right? i will have another 20 themers for you to whine/cry/***** about after kol to. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/27181-hacked-seer-v1/page/3/#findComment-249623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S. Veteran Posted May 18, 2002 Veteran Share Posted May 18, 2002 that's cute... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/27181-hacked-seer-v1/page/3/#findComment-249625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Dragon Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 You think only kids such as yourself enjoy pcs? I thought only "kids" such as ourselves fought useless arguments over the internet. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/27181-hacked-seer-v1/page/3/#findComment-249634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoL Veteran Posted May 18, 2002 Veteran Share Posted May 18, 2002 The wallpaper always had the name of Dangerous and I included a readme that said that the theme was made by essorant and the winamp skin and wallpaper by Dangerous Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/27181-hacked-seer-v1/page/3/#findComment-249639 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp00nman Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 Originally posted by adonai that's cute... Please leave this thread. You're a nuisance here. Obviously, no one is getting along with you in this thread and you're only here to stir up trouble and a series of arguments. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/27181-hacked-seer-v1/page/3/#findComment-249643 Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S. Veteran Posted May 18, 2002 Veteran Share Posted May 18, 2002 I am simply responding to the things that have been said to, or about me... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/27181-hacked-seer-v1/page/3/#findComment-249646 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrope Posted May 18, 2002 Author Share Posted May 18, 2002 Adonai, sure my math may have been wrong because I was just putting down a number, but you have no idea what you are talking about. KoL made that version of seer with the wallpaper and winamp skin. If you would have taken the time to download my version you could have seen that. Mine is totally different than KoL's. He didnt put permissions in his. Why you *****in' at me, huh? Get your facts straight. And for those that think its retarted that I took down the link, I did it because adonai is a *** and because Im making a new version with more colors. :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/27181-hacked-seer-v1/page/3/#findComment-249653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp00nman Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 Originally posted by adonai I am simply responding to the things I've been attacked with and accused of... No, you are continuing the arguments you started 4 pages ago, and thus people are digusted with your attitude in this thread. We're not stupid. Redrope: :D Good to see you come to your senses. LONG LIVE HACKED SEER! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/27181-hacked-seer-v1/page/3/#findComment-249655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redrope Posted May 18, 2002 Author Share Posted May 18, 2002 Originally posted by adonai I am simply responding to the things that have been said to, or about me... You are simply wrong. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/27181-hacked-seer-v1/page/3/#findComment-249656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
John S. Veteran Posted May 18, 2002 Veteran Share Posted May 18, 2002 It certainly wouldn't be the first time...I have never pointed fingers at anyone specific, just attempted to state the whole time that this wasn't gone about the right way in getting permission and giving credit... I'm done, copy and port all you like, distribute others work...have fun Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/27181-hacked-seer-v1/page/3/#findComment-249657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sp00nman Posted May 18, 2002 Share Posted May 18, 2002 Originally posted by adonai It certainly wouldn't be the first time...I have never pointed fingers at anyone specific, just attempted to state the whole time that this wasn't gone about the right way in getting permission and giving credit... I'm done, copy and port all you like, distribute others work...have fun LOL, this guy just won't quit. He doesn't understand simple concepts, obviously. Maybe that's why he's 33... oops, 35!... years old, sitting at home on his computer 24-7. Please man, find something to do. You pointed many fingers... at many people. You attacked redrope, me, and a few others. I'm through with you. :: Puts adonai on ignore :: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/27181-hacked-seer-v1/page/3/#findComment-249661 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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