Hacked Seer v.1

[redrope]

I tried the Trillian, but it takes to much time and im WAY to lazy :D

Ok, because of this renewed interest, I am working on new colors. That and playing GTA3. :D

[nemo]

/me waits patiently for Hacked Seer....

....btw, I think a final version of the VS should come out before the other skins...

[Ethere]

So, do I have you're permission to throw it up @ GetSkinned?

[BananaMan]

Regarding earlier on the thread with the adonai vs sp00nman match, I have to say, I agree with what adonai was saying. Flame me if you must, but adonai's comments seemed perfectly okay, initially it seemed nothing more then just a warning from a guy who's seen a lot of mess come from misunderstanding with who authored work. Oh well, it's a pity it had to turn into a flame war.

That aside, wicked theme, great job guys, using it now!

[redrope]

Ok BananaMan, I am glad that you are using our theme, but I just dont understand how you can support that crap. He was saying that we included wallpapers that we didnt make. We didnt. He said we didnt get permissions. We did. What is to agree with?

Also, new colors really soon. (Sorry I have been putting it off.)

[sp00nman]

Originally posted by BananaMan

Regarding earlier on the thread with the adonai vs sp00nman match, I have to say, I agree with what adonai was saying. Flame me if you must, but adonai's comments seemed perfectly okay, initially it seemed nothing more then just a warning from a guy who's seen a lot of mess come from misunderstanding with who authored work. Oh well, it's a pity it had to turn into a flame war.

That aside, wicked theme, great job guys, using it now!

The argument is well over now... so I don't really want to see it being brought back up...

BUT, I don't think you saw the argument 360 degrees around... Redrope had obtained permission from KoL and the original authors to create "Hacked Seer," yet adonai consistently bashed him and I for promoting the new version... even though we had permission.

I think he gave up because he finally realized that we did get permission and that he wasn't informed enough on his part. It came to the point where he started bringing up ridiculous assumptions and ultimately failed.

But yet, I agree with you and adonai that permission should be obtained... and it was! I don't believe it would have been right to just go ahead and adjust KoL's work without asking him, which is why we did ask him. Except, what adonai didn't realize was that we had gotten permission. It even came to the point where he started insulting our work, a guarenteed indication that he was desperate to defend himself in any way that he could.

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Moving along...

I'm sorry to all of you about the winamp skin.. I know I said it would be done over the weekend, but it's extremely difficult to find time for anything right now with the finals in the way... as soon as Thursday and Friday are out of the way, I'm home free! :) So, production will continue this weekend and I will start releasing skins then. Until then, adios.

[redrope]

Ok. Here is the deal with the new colors. I am thinking of making the colors changes strictly taskbar and start meny oriented. The other things are minimal and they dont really effect anything. If I do this, which I am doing right now, there will be more colors that I can do in less amount of time.

Thoughts?

[BroChaos Veteran]

sounds fine here.

[BananaMan]

Originally posted by redrope

Ok BananaMan, I am glad that you are using our theme, but I just dont understand how you can support that crap. He was saying that we included wallpapers that we didnt make. We didnt. He said we didnt get permissions. We did. What is to agree with?

Just before I reply, I want to say that I don't want to start another flame war by this, nor am I trying to. I'm not at ALL interested in drilling my point into everyone, it was just an observation. That aside, the reason why I agreed with him was because his initial comments seemed really reasonable, my impression was that he was just giving you some warning, not attacking you. Beyond that, it escalated into a flame war and then, yes, I agree with you, you were right in saying that you did obtained permission and that it just wasn't an issue. It just seemed like a misunderstanding that got blown waaaaay out of proportion by a flame war. sp00nman and redrope, I am not attacking you, and I'm not saying you're wrong either, please don't take it that way, this is just a silly little observation by me who probably doesn't understand the situation entirely. I really got peeved at some of the other neowinians who just flamed him for the hell of it, I thought that was unfair. Oh, and, just in case someone says this, no, I don't know adonai, never talked to him before ever.

Okay, all that messiness aside, I'll say again, I love your theme fellas, I usually cycle through themes daily because I'm not happy with them but this one is sticking, looking forward to the other colors!

[sp00nman]

Originally posted by BananaMan

Just before I reply, I want to say that I don't want to start another flame war by this, nor am I trying to. I'm not at ALL interested in drilling my point into everyone, it was just an observation. That aside, the reason why I agreed with him was because his initial comments seemed really reasonable, my impression was that he was just giving you some warning, not attacking you. Beyond that, it escalated into a flame war and then, yes, I agree with you, you were right in saying that you did obtained permission and that it just wasn't an issue. It just seemed like a misunderstanding that got blown waaaaay out of proportion by a flame war. sp00nman and redrope, I am not attacking you, and I'm not saying you're wrong either, please don't take it that way, this is just a silly little observation by me who probably doesn't understand the situation entirely. I really got peeved at some of the other neowinians who just flamed him for the hell of it, I thought that was unfair. Oh, and, just in case someone says this, no, I don't know adonai, never talked to him before ever.

Okay, all that messiness aside, I'll say again, I love your theme fellas, I usually cycle through themes daily because I'm not happy with them but this one is sticking, looking forward to the other colors!

Yeah, I understand where your coming from. No harm done... I was just putting in my opinion. I'm not arguing with you though. :)

I agree with his points, but I think he took it a little too far. He acused us of stealing people's ideas, distributing wallpapers without permission, called us names, and insulted our work. So naturally I defended myself, and a lot of other people here looked over what was happening and stepped in.

Oh well, everything is over anyway... thanks for the compliments on the theme, although it was redrope who made the msstyles! I just made the quicknotes and ezpop skins, and I'll be working more on that upcoming winamp skin! Adios.

[nemo]

anybody know anything about the progress of Hacked Seer?

I sorta wanna download it and use it cause I like it soo much but I can't use it the way it currently is... :(

[redrope]

Originally posted by BananaMan

Just before I reply, I want to say that I don't want to start another flame war by this, nor am I trying to. I'm not at ALL interested in drilling my point into everyone, it was just an observation. That aside, the reason why I agreed with him was because his initial comments seemed really reasonable, my impression was that he was just giving you some warning, not attacking you. Beyond that, it escalated into a flame war and then, yes, I agree with you, you were right in saying that you did obtained permission and that it just wasn't an issue. It just seemed like a misunderstanding that got blown waaaaay out of proportion by a flame war. sp00nman and redrope, I am not attacking you, and I'm not saying you're wrong either, please don't take it that way, this is just a silly little observation by me who probably doesn't understand the situation entirely. I really got peeved at some of the other neowinians who just flamed him for the hell of it, I thought that was unfair. Oh, and, just in case someone says this, no, I don't know adonai, never talked to him before ever.

Okay, all that messiness aside, I'll say again, I love your theme fellas, I usually cycle through themes daily because I'm not happy with them but this one is sticking, looking forward to the other colors!

I wasnt attacking you either, nor was I trying to if you thought I was. Im glad that you cleared that up. :D

Working on more colors right now. These colors are strictly taskbar and a little more. Im going to download the latest regular seer to make the theme be the best that it can be. :D

[redrope]

Ok folks, here is the last update for Hacked Seer EVER. To be totally honest, I have lost interest in this project, as have many other people. I dont think that its worth it to continue, so this is the last update ever. There is only 2 colors, because that is all of the patience I had for this. The new color is a red version. It looks ok.

Red Version:

Blue Version:

"The Bar":

The Download:

FINAL VERSION OF SEER by redrope

The download file that is included here is a total package that includes all of the skins and the two visual style colors. I hope that you enjoyed this project, as it was my first, and I hope that from editing a theme I can move on to my own theme. I thank you for reading all of this and for paying attention to what we did. I also thank you for putting in comments and giving feedback. As sp00nman and I probably both agree, this theme could have had a lot more, but oh wel.. school sucks. :D

Thanks and enjoy!

- redrope

[BroChaos Veteran]

sweet, congrats on an awesome first theme. looking forward to more stuff from you.

[ithankugod]

Hey the two styles I put in normally under a directory named Hacked Seer not getting recognized..anyone know the problem?

Thanks

[3dfx]

Hey redrope what happen with a spanish start button INICIO???

[redrope]

Originally posted by ithankugod

Hey the two styles I put in normally under a directory named Hacked Seer not getting recognized..anyone know the problem?

Thanks

...wtf?

[redrope]

Originally posted by 3dfx

Hey redrope what happen with a spanish start button INICIO???

Got lazy studying for finals. Maybe some other time.

[ithankugod]

Hey Redrop, try doubling up the taskbar line for the blue theme, the tray is weird...the red on the other hand is fine. Just so u know...=)

[nemo]

yayayayaayayay!!!! me downloads.... i'll let you know what I think...

[phobic]

Originally posted by ithankugod

Hey the two styles I put in normally under a directory named Hacked Seer not getting recognized..anyone know the problem?

Thanks

Same here. When I try to select the style in the desktop properties the hacked versions of seer do not show up. I have placed the 2 msstyles files in a folder called "Hacked Seer" but they aren't selectable from my list of styles.

[BananaMan]

Originally posted by redrope

Ok folks, here is the last update for Hacked Seer EVER. To be totally honest, I have lost interest in this project. As sp00nman and I probably both agree, this theme could have had a lot more, but oh wel.. school sucks. :D

Yeah, I know how that goes. There's just not enough hours in a day to juggle school, skinnin' and relaxation. Great work redrope and sp00nman, this theme will be on my PC for a long time!

[Dazzla Veteran]

Originally posted by phobic

Same here. When I try to select the style in the desktop properties the hacked versions of seer do not show up. I have placed the 2 msstyles files in a folder called "Hacked Seer" but they aren't selectable from my list of styles.

Make sure that the folder name is identical to the .msstyles filename.

[Evil Dragon]

Originally posted by phobic

Same here. When I try to select the style in the desktop properties the hacked versions of seer do not show up. I have placed the 2 msstyles files in a folder called "Hacked Seer" but they aren't selectable from my list of styles.

That's cuz you have the original seer installed. Go into the folder and just manually click the msstyle...

[BroChaos Veteran]

oh, AND make sure you take the msstyles out of the "msstyles" folder and just put them in the main folder.