Blackout Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 Which one is harder: AP Calculus or AP Statistics? Has anyone ever taken statistics before? What do they do in statistics? Do you think I'd be able to survive these classes if I averaged a B- in pre-calc? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giga Veteran Posted March 6, 2005 Veteran Share Posted March 6, 2005 Statastics is mostly applications. Word problems and such. Calc is much easier...at least for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antipop Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 Stats is ass easy. It's a calculator class. If you enjoy math, do Calc. If you enjoy writing and analysis, so Stats. Be wary however, if you go into any major having anything to do with math/science, you will need to take Statistics with Calculus, so your AP Stats credits won't do you much good. I took both, Stats was a waste of time for me, but then again, I'm going to be a math major :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuzlbut07 Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 AP Calc is a lot harder than AP Stat... trust me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-n-t Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 my friend says that ap stats is a joke and that ap calc is hard. take stats (Y). im going to take it next year cause i dont want to take precalc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyPixel Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 If you enjoy math, take both... As Antipop stated, if you're going to major in engineering or science, an AP stats credit will be useless, as you'll have to take it over again in college (statistics using calculus). Both are relatively easy, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumbleph1$h Posted March 6, 2005 Share Posted March 6, 2005 If you are going into engineering / sciences and will need calc in your future, take AP calc so you have a more solid math base going into college. If you are going to be focusing more on liberal arts, knowing statistics will be more helpful in interpreting media, etc. I didn't take AP stats in HS, but statistics in college is a LOT easier than calc, so I can only assume its similar at the HS level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamz Veteran Posted March 7, 2005 Veteran Share Posted March 7, 2005 they're both easy (i did ib, though), so you should take both. you need to know calculus and statistics in university, so it helps. this also depends on your major. if you want to choose, pick the one that's more closely related to what you plan on doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soppychunk Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 I'm in both right now. Calc is probably harder, but they are both easy. Personally I think stats is a joke... for the first 4 months we learned about 'means' and 'medians' and all the same stuff we learned in 4th grade. There is also a bunch of the same stuff about probabilitiy you're learning in pre-calc. It's easy, go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeratulsAvenger Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Stat is easy, Calc is easier then Pre-Cal from what I have heard... Neither one should be a stretch for ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neowin_hipster Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 statistics can be categorized in 2 ways. continous and discrete. Continuous is pretty much all calculus. If the stats you do is remotely usefull it probably has calculus in it. Scientists and engineers need both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beh Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Calculus classes tend to be harder than Statistics classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clide Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 If your going to need calc in college, AP calc would definately be worth it. Especially if you get a good teacher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parthian Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 If your going to need calc in college, AP calc would definately be worth it. Especially if you get a good teacher. 585579904[/snapback] I've heard that AP Stats is the easiest AP there is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamz Veteran Posted March 7, 2005 Veteran Share Posted March 7, 2005 statistics can be categorized in 2 ways. continous and discrete. Continuous is pretty much all calculus. If the stats you do is remotely usefull it probably has calculus in it.Scientists and engineers need both. 585579877[/snapback] very true. when i had to calculate expectations for my game theory thesis, i had to use double integrals of continuous functions. the transition from discrete to continuous is pretty intuitive, though. but discrete statistics is useful at the most basic level. everyone should know what a mean is and what degrees of freedom are. if statistics takes you into understanding homoskedasticity in regressions, etc., it's also helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Posted March 7, 2005 Author Share Posted March 7, 2005 statistics can be categorized in 2 ways. continous and discrete. Continuous is pretty much all calculus. If the stats you do is remotely usefull it probably has calculus in it.Scientists and engineers need both. 585579877[/snapback] So if I'm going to be taking AP Calculus and AP Statistics at the same time, there's a chance I won't understand the continuous statistics portion since it involves calculus? I'm not really a math genius (got a B- in pre-calc, my lowest semester grade ever on my transcript), so any predictions on how I'll fare? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumbleph1$h Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 So if I'm going to be taking AP Calculus and AP Statistics at the same time, there's a chance I won't understand the continuous statistics portion since it involves calculus?I'm not really a math genius (got a B- in pre-calc, my lowest semester grade ever on my transcript), so any predictions on how I'll fare? Thanks. 585583377[/snapback] AP Stat almost definitely does not cover the calc - based portions. Calculus would be listed as a pre-req for the course if it was necessary to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawtai Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 as far as I remember in high school, AP-stats was a joke, and if you wanted to really learn anything you took AP-calc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pto Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 You need stat in tx, or so they say. I'm taking both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PseudoRandomDragon Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 I'm not really a math genius (got a B- in pre-calc, my lowest semester grade ever on my transcript), so any predictions on how I'll fare? 585583377[/snapback] If you were in Pre-calc AP and got a B- then you could get into Calc AP, but you would have difficulty unless you increase your effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeh Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 Stats = data management? Here, Discrete & Geo > Data Management > Calculus in difficulty (Ontario, Gr.12) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdodson Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 Stats = decimals Calculus = logs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jooface Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 AP Calc BC (AB is just slower) by far, a bunch of my friends that are in trig/math analysis are also in AP Stats and say it's cake. Our AP Stats teacher lets you do whatever you want (sleep, play cards, etc.) as long as you don't disrupt the class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neowin_hipster Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 I don't see the point of AP courses anymore. What you learn is pretty trivial. Big deal compared to high school but still a wading pool. Without first principals you don't really understand. It takes a while to get there but you'll know what i mean ;) Just pick anything because in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumbleph1$h Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 I don't see the point of AP courses anymore. What you learn is pretty trivial. Big deal compared to high school but still a wading pool. Without first principals you don't really understand. It takes a while to get there but you'll know what i mean ;) Just pick anything because in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter. 585584840[/snapback] Classes pertaining to your area of study are useless in the sense that you will almost never get 'college credit' for them, but are good to strengthen your background in the subject before tackling it at the college level. AP classes are great for getting college credit for courses that do not pertain to your major. Just one less thing to have to worry about in college. More than anything AP classes are beneficial by their increased requirements and expectations of students. Time management and good study habits formed and high school play a critical role in a students success in college / careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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