Jason Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 They will be less in debt if they charge less as then people will buy the products! 585587343[/snapback] Good products you should expect to pay a premium on and Sony make good products. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/294340-sony-60-billion-in-debt/page/2/#findComment-585587378 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MouthofDevlin Posted March 8, 2005 Author Share Posted March 8, 2005 Good products you should expect to pay a premium on and Sony make good products. 585587378[/snapback] HHAHAHAHAHA, what a nice joke. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/294340-sony-60-billion-in-debt/page/2/#findComment-585587408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 HHAHAHAHAHA, what a nice joke. 585587408[/snapback] I don't see why ? Sony have always made good products that are worth paying more for. I have a Sony Wega TV, walkman, DAB walkman, DVD 5.1 system, have had Sony component system (now Technics) and I have been impressed with all of them. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/294340-sony-60-billion-in-debt/page/2/#findComment-585587466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunginator Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 for all those people who said sony makes bad products, you're amazingly wrong. they make very good products, they're specialized in display, all their high end displays are amazing and top notch, but if you're looking for audio, sony is not the way to go for audio. for little handy devices, sony is also very good. those of you who say they jack up the price... you guys are poor and have no money, shut up ! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/294340-sony-60-billion-in-debt/page/2/#findComment-585587488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prince21 Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 Sony its time to say good bye. Expensive, quality decreased. LG nice work Sony struggling in every field there sony ericksson phones not doing so well There flatscreen monitors so expensive and crap :laugh: :yes: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/294340-sony-60-billion-in-debt/page/2/#findComment-585587526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iconboy Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 ignore Annatar, Id be pretty ****ed if Sony Killed my father, raped my mother and ran over my dog too! THEY turned this into a personal battle for him and i commend him for not being so overwhelmed at making such a powerful enemy! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/294340-sony-60-billion-in-debt/page/2/#findComment-585587538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cryptic Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 The argument of good product bad product is purely subjective. The argument that they charge way too much is more substantial. Look at what they want to charge for the PSP. Just because they make a good product( if you believe that) does not mean you have to pay "premium", aka too much. Ive had countless walkman like products all the back to when it was simply a cassette player, (showing my age) They have all performed as good or better for a much better price. As do other products I have bought. The plain and simple fact is with sony youre paying for the name. Ive heard many people say that in the past.The only thing Sony I own now is the playstation......and I dont use that all that much. edit: To say that people who think Sony is over priced are simply poor is such an ignorant statement. I guess the old saying is true....a fool and his money are soon parted. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/294340-sony-60-billion-in-debt/page/2/#findComment-585587667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitchenutensils Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 whys there so much hatred towards sony? they are an amazing company- true they do charge alot but it has to be said their products are mcuh much better than the way your describing them. their cd players quite simply knockout and there would be no iPod, if there was no walkman. theres something seeing a shiny new silver product, that you know is more likely to work than your cheap crap with the bold word "sony" accross the front. i wish good luck to them as one of the brands i like most. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/294340-sony-60-billion-in-debt/page/2/#findComment-585587719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IK47 Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 they were successful- but for the last several years they have droppped... i havent even bought anything sony for the last 6-8years- cuz they are overpriced goods.. which panasonic, hitachi etc can deliver the same for less..and the ATRAC format was a total waist of time..!! 585586730[/snapback] If I could afford it, I would buy everything Sony. they DO make better stuff. You just have to know what to buy. I have a Sony tv downstairs and a Toshiba in my room. The sony is on composite, while my toshiba is on component, yet the sony is razor sharp and my toshiba is fuzzy. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/294340-sony-60-billion-in-debt/page/2/#findComment-585587763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiegel Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 ROFL what of MS bought out sony .......... 585586696[/snapback] oh the irony would consume me, but even worse what if EA buys sony? :blink: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/294340-sony-60-billion-in-debt/page/2/#findComment-585587801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oddcrap Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 Rot and die Sony. Its mainly all the sheep who think Sony is quality because they're the most expensive out there. I could name a half dozen other brands of TV and other appliances that are cheaper, more durable, and have more features then the sorry excuses Sony puts on the shelf. 585586645[/snapback] I buy from them because it sais sony, and has a pretty logo! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/294340-sony-60-billion-in-debt/page/2/#findComment-585587813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enrickey Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 For everyone who says that Sony makes top quality products, but for a premium. Look at the case of my minidisc player, the Sony MZ-N1. Top of the line when I bought it for 600$ Canadian. After a year and a half, it was no longer able to read or write to the disc. "But you didn't handle it properly" you might say. I wish that were true. While I did drop it one two many times which broke the eject spring. I am not the only person who has had their optical block fail on them. In fact, when I posted about my problem on a minidisc forum, the first reply started out with "Join the club". It turns out that Sony put a low end optical block inside the MZ-N1, that was not meant for high speed recording, but they made it record at 32X anyways, and after a year and a bit, nearly ever unit of that model no longer works. Worst thing is that Sony want 190$ Canadian plus tax to fix it. Unlike microsoft where when there is even a small problem (the electrical cord) they have a recall and they fix it. With Sony, even when there is a major problem, they just get the consumer to pay over 200$ to repair the unit. Needless to say, I will be getting an mp3 player from a different company in the future. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/294340-sony-60-billion-in-debt/page/2/#findComment-585587904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
badall Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 only sony thing i have bought in the last 10 years was a couple cassett walkmans as they seem to be the only ones out there making any sort of new advances for the old cassett. (i have a couple thousand old skool rave tapes i like to listen to) I have an old 28" trinitron from when they were released and it's still ticking over quite well my only gripe and the reason i haven't bought anything else sony makes is the price it just ain't worth what they charge would love one of those big arse wega tellys but i am not payin a grand for one and thats for sure Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/294340-sony-60-billion-in-debt/page/2/#findComment-585587918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Fish Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 I have been using Sony products for about 15 years now and in my experience I have not had too many issues which would stop me using or purchasing another Sony product. The quality is always good and yes the prices are higher on the high street, but online they are much much cheaper. They have good diverse products and I would always look up a sony product when looking to buy any new electrical item, even if I didn't end up buying it. No matter what company you buy from, you will always find someone who has had a bad experience or had something break. Annatar clearly has issues that he should discuss with a professional, and as iconboy highlighted his posts from another thread were in poor taste. It's only a brand, it's not worth getting angry to the point of hatred. There are far more important things in life to worry about. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/294340-sony-60-billion-in-debt/page/2/#findComment-585588025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
emel Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 I wonder what japanese people will think.. they dont seem to like buying anyting thats not made in their country.. if SONY is taken over by some US company... would they stop buying PS2/PS3?.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/294340-sony-60-billion-in-debt/page/2/#findComment-585588036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PyX Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 I hope sony will never declare bankrupt for god's sake. This is THE only antitrust company that I respect. (or something like that) They don't ALWAYS make the best thing, this is normal, but most of their products pwn the others. Cheers, Sony... I'm with you... even if I can't do a thing but buying your stuff. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/294340-sony-60-billion-in-debt/page/2/#findComment-585588087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink Floyd Veteran Posted March 8, 2005 Veteran Share Posted March 8, 2005 thats a lot of money but I dont understand why a usa person to lead the company Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/294340-sony-60-billion-in-debt/page/2/#findComment-585588204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
velocity3k Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 thats a lot of money but I dont understand why a usa person to lead the company 585588204[/snapback] this article is pretty good: http://economist.com/agenda/displayStory.c...tory_id=3736140 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/294340-sony-60-billion-in-debt/page/2/#findComment-585588232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
L3thal Veteran Posted March 8, 2005 Veteran Share Posted March 8, 2005 ROFL what of MS bought out sony .......... 585586696[/snapback] Well, that'll mean we'll see some portable Microsoft MP3 players as well as LCD TV's integrated with MSNTV :p Doesn't sound too bad :cool: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/294340-sony-60-billion-in-debt/page/2/#findComment-585588252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperactive Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 for all those people who said sony makes bad products, you're amazingly wrong.they make very good products, they're specialized in display, all their high end displays are amazing and top notch, but if you're looking for audio, sony is not the way to go for audio. for little handy devices, sony is also very good. those of you who say they jack up the price... you guys are poor and have no money, shut up ! 585587488[/snapback] as for price jacking: it is my understanding that there is a 100% markup at the sony store. now granted, people pay it because of this image that sony is good stuff, but when you consider they don't even make the plasma or lcd screens in their tvs, are their panels worth it? I say no. There are far better products than what sony offers. Sony has always been,for most of their products, low end consumer grade disposable crap to me. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/294340-sony-60-billion-in-debt/page/2/#findComment-585588372 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Lyle Global Moderator Posted March 8, 2005 Global Moderator Share Posted March 8, 2005 60+ billion in debt + playstation 3 - good specs - any accessories + 1 controler - good game makers... _____________________ = such a mess :) i see this will be the year of xbox :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/294340-sony-60-billion-in-debt/page/2/#findComment-585588391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcv Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 Walkman = Not popular anymoreWega TVs = Overpriced and not easily obtained by Avg Joe Trinitron Monitors = You called that one yourself. I meant that the PS was the only thing that was mainstream successful at this time. 585587001[/snapback] Sorry, misinterpreted. At this time, yeah. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/294340-sony-60-billion-in-debt/page/2/#findComment-585588415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pajter Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 I hope Sony dies... never liked them... :no: Or maybe Microsoft should take them over, that would be very cool :D Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/294340-sony-60-billion-in-debt/page/2/#findComment-585588427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vcv Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 60+ billion in debt+ playstation 3 - good specs - any accessories + 1 controler - good game makers... _____________________ = such a mess :) i see this will be the year of xbox :D 585588391[/snapback] Woah.. - good specs? + 1 controller??? :blink: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/294340-sony-60-billion-in-debt/page/2/#findComment-585588435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
navicaph Posted March 8, 2005 Share Posted March 8, 2005 I believe the main reason why Sony is in debt is because of their take over of MGM Pictures. Correct me if I'm wrong. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/294340-sony-60-billion-in-debt/page/2/#findComment-585588439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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