canadian397 Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Hello, I really do like the look of iPods but I can't afford and iPod or iPod mini so I really would like an iPod shuffle but I was wondering a few things about them, 1) How good are they? 2) Are they worth buying? 3) Do you have to use iTunes to put music on it? 4) When using it as a flash drive to hold files, does it require drivers or can u just plug it in? 5) How good is the battery? 6) Once the music is off it, can u copy it off of it onto another computer easily? 7) I'm looking at buying the dock to put in my room by my stereo so I can charge my iPod Shuffle and plug it into my stereo (I have an adapter for the headphone port, I know there is no connection on the dock). My question is can u listen to music while in the charger? Thank you! - Barret Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/300258-should-i-get-an-ipod-shuffle/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-n-t Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 1. they play music in random order at low quality 2. no 3.yes, AFAIK 4. plug it in on win98se and up 5. average, i htink its 18 hours. 6. im not really sure what youre asking. 7. dunno. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/300258-should-i-get-an-ipod-shuffle/#findComment-585662493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
neufuse Veteran Posted March 24, 2005 Veteran Share Posted March 24, 2005 in my personal opinnion.. it's better to just get a 4GB mini... i tried out the shuffle while decideing what to buy and the mini for the price is a way better deal.. i know you said you cant afford it, but the shuffle to me is worthless for the money and features Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/300258-should-i-get-an-ipod-shuffle/#findComment-585662499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kompressor Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 there is no point in getting the shuffle - if you want a good flash player try THIS :ninja: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/300258-should-i-get-an-ipod-shuffle/#findComment-585662508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieterich Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 No. IMHO you can get better players for as much or less that have more features. I've got one of these and I totally love it!!! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/300258-should-i-get-an-ipod-shuffle/#findComment-585662519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOB BOT Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Review for new ipod users http://www.ipodlounge.com/reviews_more.php?id=6138_0_6_0_C Review for ipod power users http://www.ipodlounge.com/reviews_more.php?id=6129_0_6_0_C Read both of those and if you're still having doubts, go to Google and type "ipod shuffle review" to read some more, don't ask people on a forum what you should buy because they will only give you their opinion which is pretty much useless. Reviews in general tend to be more unbiased. Have fun Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/300258-should-i-get-an-ipod-shuffle/#findComment-585662526 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argote Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 No. IMHO you can get better players for as much or less that have more features. 585662519[/snapback] i agree Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/300258-should-i-get-an-ipod-shuffle/#findComment-585662537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-n-t Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Review for new ipod usershttp://www.ipodlounge.com/reviews_more.php?id=6138_0_6_0_C Review for ipod power users http://www.ipodlounge.com/reviews_more.php?id=6129_0_6_0_C Read both of those and if you're still having doubts, go to Google and type "ipod shuffle review" to read some more, don't ask people on a forum what you should buy because they will only give you their opinion which is pretty much useless. Reviews in general tend to be more unbiased. Have fun 585662526[/snapback] yes, go to a website run by apple entusiasts and get a review from there. :no: all the reviews on google are done by mac sites with die-hard apple lovers. the only unbiased review an mp3 player can get is a list of specs, and the shuffle is sorely lacking in that area. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/300258-should-i-get-an-ipod-shuffle/#findComment-585662623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chmsant Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 1. Fine, just like any other music player, in fact some say that it plays louder than other iPod models. the whole low quality thing that was mentioned earlier is untrue. You can load any bitrate you want, the quality depends on the user. 2. Yes 3. Yes (preferred and recommended method) There have been other utilites developed, but none of them compare with the ease and integration with iTunes. 4. ditto what was said earlier, should work with anythign that is compatible with PNP devices 5. 18hrs advertised, but some have gotten much more 6. huh? 7. Yes Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/300258-should-i-get-an-ipod-shuffle/#findComment-585662626 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOB BOT Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 yes, go to a website run by apple entusiasts and get a review from there. :no: all the reviews on google are done by mac sites with die-hard apple lovers.the only unbiased review an mp3 player can get is a list of specs, and the shuffle is sorely lacking in that area. 585662623[/snapback] Have you *read* those reviews? :blink: 6) Once the music is off it, can u copy it off of it onto another computer easily? I think what you meant by that also is if you fill up your ipod with songs and try to copy them to a friends computer. You can't do that because of copyright issues, but what you can do is if you wantd to transfer mp3s you can drag them on to the shuffle and then put them into whatever computer you want, but you wont be able to listen to the music while its on the shuffle if thats what you wanna do. You add the music in itunes to listen to, it cant be transferred to another computer. yes, they said it was pretty. 585662658[/snapback] That makes you look *real* smart :sleep: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/300258-should-i-get-an-ipod-shuffle/#findComment-585662656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-n-t Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Have you *read* those reviews??:blink:: 585662656[/snapback] yes, they said it was pretty. Edit: they also said that it was cheaper per megabyte than the competition, which is a straight out lie. that right there takes away any credebility your reviews had. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/300258-should-i-get-an-ipod-shuffle/#findComment-585662658 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOB BOT Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 If you are wondering about price per megabyte, there is a chart in the second review shuffle 512MB $99 $198 per gigabyte shuffle 1GB $149 $149 per gigabyte iPod 4G 20GB $299 $14.95 per gigabyte So yeah it's way more expensive per gigabyte. The reviews talk about that and a few other things for those willing to read for themselves. A general trend is that the more GB you get the cheaper per GB it costs Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/300258-should-i-get-an-ipod-shuffle/#findComment-585662690 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOB BOT Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 yes, they said it was pretty.Edit: they also said that it was cheaper per megabyte than the competition, which is a straight out lie. that right there takes away any credebility your reviews had. 585662658[/snapback] So did you like read the first few sentences and then stop when you ran into that? Nice work man :no: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/300258-should-i-get-an-ipod-shuffle/#findComment-585662694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-n-t Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 no, it said it was cheaper per megabyte htan FLASH MP3 players from OTHER COMPANIES. that is a lie. the point is, you can get more features for less money, and that is why you should buy something else. unless you are a trendwhore, there is absolutely no reason to get a shuffle from a technical POV. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/300258-should-i-get-an-ipod-shuffle/#findComment-585662699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOB BOT Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 no, it said it was cheaper per megabyte htan FLASH MP3 players from OTHER COMPANIES. that is a lie. the point is, you can get more features for less money, and that is why you should buy something else. unless you are a trendwhore, there is absolutely no reason to get a shuffle from a technical POV. 585662699[/snapback] That's your opinion but not everybody shops for electronics based on the amount of features per dollar. There is also the look and feel of the device, the relevance of the features, and the software you are using to take into consideration when making that kind of choice. So it's fine that you've made your choice based on your own factors but there's more to it then that. I read both of those reviews and didn't find them to be biased at all but they gave a general impression if whether it would meet your needs depending on what kind of user you are. Hope that helps you understand where I'm coming from. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/300258-should-i-get-an-ipod-shuffle/#findComment-585662713 Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-n-t Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 That's your opinion but not everybody shops for electronics based on the amount of features per dollar. There is also the look and feel of the device, the relevance of the features, and the software you are using to take into consideration when making that kind of choice. So it's fine that you've made your choice based on your own factors but there's more to it then that. I read both of those reviews and didn't find them to be biased at all but they gave a general impression if whether it would meet your needs depending on what kind of user you are. Hope that helps you understand where I'm coming from. 585662713[/snapback] but the shuffle doesnt have any features to be relevant. it plays music and is overpriced, that is all. all the features in the shuffle can be found in other mp3 players, with the addition of EVEN MORE features for LESS money. people buy the shuffle because its called the iPod Shuffle, and it comes with white headphones. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/300258-should-i-get-an-ipod-shuffle/#findComment-585662719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOB BOT Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 but the shuffle doesnt have any features to be relevant. it plays music and is overpriced, that is all. all the features in the shuffle can be found in other mp3 players, with the addition of EVEN MORE features for LESS money. people buy the shuffle because its called the iPod Shuffle, and it comes with white headphones. 585662719[/snapback] I don't disagree with that, but it's not the case for everyone. Obviously your opinion is pretty clear and it's a valid one, so I don't see any reason to continue talking about it. Cheers Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/300258-should-i-get-an-ipod-shuffle/#findComment-585662730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
golazo Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 That's your opinion but not everybody shops for electronics based on the amount of features per dollar. There is also the look and feel of the device, the relevance of the features, and the software you are using to take into consideration when making that kind of choice. So it's fine that you've made your choice based on your own factors but there's more to it then that. I read both of those reviews and didn't find them to be biased at all but they gave a general impression if whether it would meet your needs depending on what kind of user you are. Hope that helps you understand where I'm coming from. well said bro Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/300258-should-i-get-an-ipod-shuffle/#findComment-585662745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macman87 Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 but the shuffle doesnt have any features to be relevant. it plays music and is overpriced, that is all. all the features in the shuffle can be found in other mp3 players, with the addition of EVEN MORE features for LESS money. people buy the shuffle because its called the iPod Shuffle, and it comes with white headphones. 585662719[/snapback] If somethings overpriced, Apple will have a hard time selling them. The last time I checked, Apple was having a hard time with the massive amounts of orders. The point is, overpriced isn't something that is determined by just one person. As for the shuffle, IMO, the best way to go is still the new iPod mini. $50 for 6 hour more battery life, a screen powering more features, and 4x the space. You might have to save up a bit thou - something worth learning to do IMO ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/300258-should-i-get-an-ipod-shuffle/#findComment-585663366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOB BOT Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 If somethings overpriced, Apple will have a hard time selling them. The last time I checked, Apple was having a hard time with the massive amounts of orders. The point is, overpriced isn't something that is determined by just one person. 585663366[/snapback] Exactly, I don't see why it's so hard for people to understand that. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/300258-should-i-get-an-ipod-shuffle/#findComment-585664962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadian397 Posted March 24, 2005 Author Share Posted March 24, 2005 lol, how about this: iRiver IFP795T . I've seen the 256mb version at school and everyone likes it, it even has an input port for direct recording! Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/300258-should-i-get-an-ipod-shuffle/#findComment-585666891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cchasem Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 Hello,I really do like the look of iPods but I can't afford and iPod or iPod mini so I really would like an iPod shuffle but I was wondering a few things about them, 1) How good are they? 2) Are they worth buying? 3) Do you have to use iTunes to put music on it? 4) When using it as a flash drive to hold files, does it require drivers or can u just plug it in? 5) How good is the battery? 6) Once the music is off it, can u copy it off of it onto another computer easily? 7) I'm looking at buying the dock to put in my room by my stereo so I can charge my iPod Shuffle and plug it into my stereo (I have an adapter for the headphone port, I know there is no connection on the dock). My question is can u listen to music while in the charger? Thank you! - Barret 585662344[/snapback] 1) They're good..? 2) Yes I think so, if you use usb flash drives often.. a 1gb one comes in handy. 3) No, you can use Winamp also. 4) You can just plug it in on XP systems.. not sure about others. (OS X will not require any extra drivers either probably) 5) I dont know yet... 6) Probably.. Just open the hidden folders in it..Havent tried tho so i dont know. 7) Music wont play while the shuffle is plugged in to a usb port. :( I'd get one if you really think it'd be useful.. I use mine while mountain biking and working out. If i were you i'd save for a bit longer and go for a mini though. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/300258-should-i-get-an-ipod-shuffle/#findComment-585666955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
msing Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 If somethings overpriced, Apple will have a hard time selling them. The last time I checked, Apple was having a hard time with the massive amounts of orders. The point is, overpriced isn't something that is determined by just one person.As for the shuffle, IMO, the best way to go is still the new iPod mini. $50 for 6 hour more battery life, a screen powering more features, and 4x the space. You might have to save up a bit thou - something worth learning to do IMO ;) 585663366[/snapback] Erm...aren't you contradicting yourself? I mean you're suggesting an ipod mini is a better value than the shuffle, right?...So the Ipod shuffle is overpriced to some extent... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/300258-should-i-get-an-ipod-shuffle/#findComment-585666981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rojack Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 spend the money on hot-dogs instead :whistle: :happy: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/300258-should-i-get-an-ipod-shuffle/#findComment-585667006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerry Posted March 24, 2005 Share Posted March 24, 2005 yes, go to a website run by apple entusiasts and get a review from there. :no: all the reviews on google are done by mac sites with die-hard apple lovers.the only unbiased review an mp3 player can get is a list of specs, and the shuffle is sorely lacking in that area. 585662623[/snapback] So you do not want reviews from mac websites ? Well how about this or this or this or this or this or this or this ? I'm sure you'll come up with some weird "theories" again :yes: Bring out the tin foil hats :rofl: Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/300258-should-i-get-an-ipod-shuffle/#findComment-585667009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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