timmayXL Posted March 27, 2005 Share Posted March 27, 2005 i just switched to the mac, and everything's been great except on the html front. i've been creating websites on frontpage all my life, and was just wondering what the most comparable program on the mac is (dreamweaver, golive, etc.) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/301452-comparable-hmtl-editor-to-frontpage-on-the-mac/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
krmathis Posted March 27, 2005 Share Posted March 27, 2005 I have never used Frontpage, so not sure how it looks like. But you've already mentioned two programs, which might be comparable. NVU might be worth a try as well. ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/301452-comparable-hmtl-editor-to-frontpage-on-the-mac/#findComment-585679188 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keito Posted March 27, 2005 Share Posted March 27, 2005 well I'd go Dreamweaver :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/301452-comparable-hmtl-editor-to-frontpage-on-the-mac/#findComment-585679191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereopixels Posted March 27, 2005 Share Posted March 27, 2005 I would also go with Dreamweaver, but Adobe GoLive has somethings that Dreamweaver doesn't, including full integration with Photoshop (Dreamweaver fully integrates with Fireworks instead), W3C validation checking (Dreamweaver has a similar system of it's own), an outline editor, supports authoring of Quicktime movies and you can set up, fully customise and save your layout (Dreamweaver just has a code view or a designer view (wysiwyg). Adobe GoLive does not support server-side authoring, nor does it have live data views, nor does it include manual code editing or script references. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/301452-comparable-hmtl-editor-to-frontpage-on-the-mac/#findComment-585679208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
radioboy Posted March 27, 2005 Share Posted March 27, 2005 dreamweaver is a piece of **** on the mac, and it'll tell you why it behaves like a ported PC app. in that i mean, on the mac, it acts like a PC app. controls function like PC controls. keyboard shortcuts are PC shortcuts (ie: F2 to rename instead of enter). it doesnt behave properly with expose. it is an absolutely PAINFUL experience using dreamweaver under OS X and now that i've seen this thread it's time to check out GoLive Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/301452-comparable-hmtl-editor-to-frontpage-on-the-mac/#findComment-585679499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KoL Veteran Posted March 27, 2005 Veteran Share Posted March 27, 2005 Try Dreamweaver :) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/301452-comparable-hmtl-editor-to-frontpage-on-the-mac/#findComment-585679774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted March 27, 2005 Share Posted March 27, 2005 I agree Dreamweaver on OS X is painful, The app feels bloated and slow, it crashes more often than i'd like and overall it just doesn't feel right unfotunately... Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/301452-comparable-hmtl-editor-to-frontpage-on-the-mac/#findComment-585679777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudy Posted March 27, 2005 Share Posted March 27, 2005 dreamweaver Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/301452-comparable-hmtl-editor-to-frontpage-on-the-mac/#findComment-585680203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuzzy_logic Posted March 27, 2005 Share Posted March 27, 2005 Despite what people have said, Dreamweaver is still your best bet. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/301452-comparable-hmtl-editor-to-frontpage-on-the-mac/#findComment-585680343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
macman87 Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 Check out RapidWeaver http://www.realmacsoftware.com/software/ra...rapidweaver.php It looks fantastic - great OS X interface, easy to use and seems pretty powerful at the same time. Gotta give that a go ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/301452-comparable-hmtl-editor-to-frontpage-on-the-mac/#findComment-585682252 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 GoLive. :yes: Dreamweaver on OS X just sucks (not that it's really that great on Windows). Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/301452-comparable-hmtl-editor-to-frontpage-on-the-mac/#findComment-585682432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
i3iz Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 i have used go live and dreamweaver extensively, all of the latest versions. Both are not as great at dreamweaver for PC, but DW is 100 times better than Go live. however if you know nothing aboutweb design and dont care to learn, GL is a nice alternative to learn to do things you want with little to no effort. Only it creates huge documents and is a pain to do anything consistant. it works primarily with CSS and Layers, which is fine, but there isnt the same control that you would have editing the sheets manually with CSS. no sense in web designing ont he mac, unless you have primarily mac viewers on your web page. The differences between IE/win and Safari are so many that your code will fall apart a lot of the time when viewed in IE. I would buy a cheap pc and get dreamweaver, unless you have a mac fan base. p.s. I am a graphic designer and work on 3 macs. 2x dual 1.25's and a pbook. 1 for video, 1 for print, one for portability. i use my PC for web design. athlon 1800+ plenty of speed Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/301452-comparable-hmtl-editor-to-frontpage-on-the-mac/#findComment-585682458 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yayo Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 I like Dreamweaver on the PC more, but also use it on the Mac. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/301452-comparable-hmtl-editor-to-frontpage-on-the-mac/#findComment-585682605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
radioboy Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 no sense in web designing ont he mac, unless you have primarily mac viewers on your web page.The differences between IE/win and Safari are so many that your code will fall apart a lot of the time when viewed in IE. I would buy a cheap pc and get dreamweaver, unless you have a mac fan base. 585682458[/snapback] a) the other reason for web design on a mac is if you... you know... own one... b) a good designer can design pages that look right in all of them... www.cinemaworkshop.com looks the same on IE and Safari, so does my personal page Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/301452-comparable-hmtl-editor-to-frontpage-on-the-mac/#findComment-585682830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliott Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 (edited) i have used go live and dreamweaver extensively, all of the latest versions.? Both are not as great at dreamweaver for PC, but DW is 100 times better than Go live.? however if you know nothing aboutweb design and dont care to learn, GL is a nice alternative to learn to do things you want with little to no effort.? Only it creates huge documents and is a pain to do anything consistant. it works primarily with CSS and Layers, which is fine, but there isnt the same control that you would have editing the sheets manually with CSS. no sense in web designing ont he mac, unless you have primarily mac viewers on your web page. The differences between IE/win and Safari are so many that your code will fall apart a lot of the time when viewed in IE.? I would buy a cheap pc and get dreamweaver, unless you have a mac fan base. p.s. I am a graphic designer and work on 3 macs.? 2x dual 1.25's and a pbook.? 1 for video, 1 for print, one for portability. i use my PC for web design. athlon 1800+ plenty of speed 585682458[/snapback] Dreamweaver is really only better if you plan on coding lives pages using ASP or Coldfusion. PHP coding isn't all that hot in Dreamweaver. You're better on coding PHP by hand than letting Dreamweaver do it. For doing the actual design of sites, GoLive provides better WYSIWYG in-page editing and a better CSS editor. Of course, every web designer wishes Internet Explorer on Windows would be more compliant with W3C standards, but there are ways around it. You can keep a PC or run Virtual PC just to test your sites on Windows browsers. As a matter of fact, I find designing sites that work with all browsers 100 times easier on Mac OS X than on Windows. Edited March 28, 2005 by jagedEdge Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/301452-comparable-hmtl-editor-to-frontpage-on-the-mac/#findComment-585682981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
divinatum Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 Learn HTML/CSS, WYSIWYG is... trash. Most WYSIWG editors arent W3C standard. Especially dreamweaver. Once you got HTML/CSS down, move onto a text editor.. i am a ###### for SubEthaEdit... Just my $.02 Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/301452-comparable-hmtl-editor-to-frontpage-on-the-mac/#findComment-585683640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fusion Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 The same as most people have said, Dreamweaver is probably your best route for WYSIWYG, but it is a very bloated app and un-macish (if you even care about that). What other's haven't mentioned is its steep price compared to other shareware alternatives out there. I'd really recommend learning html+css handcoding as you will always get the best results, and then using an app like BBEdit, skEdit, SubEthaEdit, CSSEdit, etc.... But, if you really want something with WYSIWYG, here are two Mac shareware programs that should work really well for you: Tag GoodPage Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/301452-comparable-hmtl-editor-to-frontpage-on-the-mac/#findComment-585683739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yayo Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 b) a good designer can design pages that look right in all of them... Exactly, it doesn't matter what platform the site is designed it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/301452-comparable-hmtl-editor-to-frontpage-on-the-mac/#findComment-585683783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PureEdit Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 Check out RapidWeaverhttp://www.realmacsoftware.com/software/ra...rapidweaver.php It looks fantastic - great OS X interface, easy to use and seems pretty powerful at the same time. Gotta give that a go ;) 585682252[/snapback] That app looks awesome for making simple sites. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/301452-comparable-hmtl-editor-to-frontpage-on-the-mac/#findComment-585685753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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