[Definitive] Xbox 360 Thread

[kylejn]

So whats the final verdict on noise/heat/overheating? For some strange reason Australia is getting a bundle with PDZ + a Game this week (even though we get the console in March :\), so I wouldn't want to buy it all and then come release time find that I've been completely turned off ithe console because of its issues. :p

Noise: Not a problem. It's audible, yeah, but you can't even hear it when you're playing a game.

Heat/Overheating: Not a problem. Just stick your power supply in an open place and not smashed up in a tight corner, and I doubt there'll be any problems. Mine is sitting behind my TV and has been there since launch day, and I've had no problems.

[CJC]

Noise: Not a problem. It's audible, yeah, but you can't even hear it when you're playing a game.

Heat/Overheating: Not a problem. Just stick your power supply in an open place and not smashed up in a tight corner, and I doubt there'll be any problems. Mine is sitting behind my TV and has been there since launch day, and I've had no problems.

Yeah, obake is right, the "issues" aren't really issues, it's just that you hear about them because the few people who have them complain everywhere.

[Matrix XII]

Most people cram the PSU behind the TV so it gets real hot.

[icecaveman]

Read the manual, on the 2. opening it is written in bold letters do not place the power supply on a soft surface such as carpets. Most people with problems did not even open the manual for crying out loud. They just start whining to everyone without even considering it might be in the manual.

[Matrix XII]

Hardly anyone reads manuals these days.

[icecaveman]

Hardly anyone reads manuals these days.

Yes that's why so many people are running their consoles on HDTV with 480i :angry: and post about how disappointed they are with the graphics and other BS. I thought anyone with common sense would at least open the manual and run through it quickly, at least few pages! Not to read everything but :no:

[Wunderchu]

now that you mention it, ...... here is some info. that some people may not be aware of:

Word of WARNING HDTV owners!

Ok so everyone should know this by now,but if you don't i wanna make you people aware so that your (Euro) launch goes as smooth as possible!.

YOU MUST switch the switch FROM sdtv(Normal tv) TO hdtv(high def) with the HD component cables with the premium Xbox360.

You may think this thread is a waste of time...but i've read a fair few who didn't know about this.

[source: http://forum.teamxbox.com/showthread.php?t=396635 ]

another point that perhaps a greater percentage of people may not be aware of:

- using the VGA cable over the component cable may result in a noticeable difference in picture quality on certain TVs

[source: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=609860 ]

[Pc_Madness]

Noise: Not a problem. It's audible, yeah, but you can't even hear it when you're playing a game.

Heat/Overheating: Not a problem. Just stick your power supply in an open place and not smashed up in a tight corner, and I doubt there'll be any problems. Mine is sitting behind my TV and has been there since launch day, and I've had no problems.

Well I've heard that the noise level is different from console to console? And people complaining about how it heats up a room? :p

So if your not supposed to place the power supply on carpet.. you have to get a piece of wood or something?

[nellydoom]

im currently thinking bout getting a 360 once they become available again and want to know these things:

- how would it run on a normal tv?

- how does the media centre thing work

- how easy is it to get it online?

[SkyyPunk Veteran]

http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products...CONTENTID=11250

ohhhh :D

[Pc_Madness]

Whats the process involved in preordering something from EB Games? Do I have to make a deposit? And are they likely to try and screw me over with a bundle? :\

[FlameGecko]

do you think these sort of sites are safe to use ?

http://www.ringitandwinit.com/

edit: have tried it, fingers crossed :-)

[Acro84]

I do not know why people are so excited with the Xbox 360's hardware. I do not think there is anything special to it. It is basically the GameCube hardware with 2 more cpus, upgraded memory, upgraded video card, and it's still using the DVD. Even the Sony PR rep said this sounds more like Xbox 1.5. Usually consoles use cutting edge technology, but this seems like a hardware upgrade.

As far as I know, the PS3's GPU is very nice thanks for Cell's help. Some people say the PS3 GPU is only based off the G70 core. I think It's funny how people judge a console to a PC, the PS3 to an Xbox 360 or they suck all together. Comparing the performance of PC GPUs with that of the XBox 360 and PS3 is rather silly. For the most part the two GPUs are very limited by PC CPUs as well as the relativity slow bus bandwidth. As it stands, the 7800GTX is starved of data until you reach 2000x2000+ resolution as is the X1800XT to a lesser degree.

Comparing them also forfeits the incredible advantage the Xenos (360) has with its 10 MB daughter embedded DRAM framebuffer which both the 7800GTX and the X1800XT lack. Free 4x FSAA should allow for quite a performance increase which actually increases in advantage the higher the resolution. It is also clocked much lower than the X1800XT at 500MHz which is a rather large difference.

As for the PS3 RSX, it is not simply a "upgraded version of the G70 core" as the transistor count simply does not add up. The RSX is still not complete to this date but Nvidia has also now stated that the RSX is based off of the new G71 core rather than the G70. However that does not mean it is simply a "upgraded version of the G71" either. There are talks from developers that range from the RSX having a type of unified shader system to the RSX offloading all vertex shader calculations to the Cell which would give the RSX a pixel shader performance well beyond anything available in the current market or in the near future. Also the Cell CPU is said to be able to help out with shader calculations as well offering a type of procedural processing that is impossible on current PCs. The performance of two "SLI 6800Ultras' is just a total random guess by some people since that is what the PS3 development hardware is equipped with. It is also said to have some type of custom Shader Model 3.0 which is supposed to allow for better looking effects over the standard model. We'll see about that though.

An nVidia spokesperson was quoted in PlayStation Magazine as saying that the 7800GTX "shares a lot of similar inner workings with the PS3's RSX chip, only it (the 7800GTX) isn't nearly as fast (as the RSX). So when it comes to the RSX, it's really hard to say at this point if it is hype or if there is any truth to this. I don't think anyone should judge each console yet or compare wich is the best, although I vote for PS3. The X360 launch games were pretty much built on Apple G5s on an aged Radeon and only worked on for two months on final development kits. People don't take this into consideration because they don't know squat about the consoles. People judge both developers and the hardware on launch games that were ports or built from a lower spec machine. Most developers (90%+?) have never coded for multi-core CPU or a Unified Shader GPU. It's going to take some time for both the X360 and PS3 with their new architectures for anything 'next-gen' to come out of them. At best most developers for next-gen consoles will probably be able to pump out games that would look like super high-res Xbox 1 games with more effects and a better framerate until they dig deeper into the systems.

[Kerm]

I queued up at Virgin last friday for the release.

It came to a bloke handing out the 7 tickets he had for the 7 systems he had and theree were about 10 - 15 of us.

He handed me one and i was well chuffed.

Only to turn around and see a girl waiting who didn't get a ticket, she had been there since 3 a.m.... :|

I rolled up at 7 waited for an hour and got one.

Moral Dilemna

I gave her my ticket, gutted. :(

I stayed around and got talking o one of the staff and i said i know you're going to say you don't know when you're getting any more in but is there anyway you can let me know or can i reserve one? Obviously no was the answer.

But i persuaded him to take my mobile # and sure enough bout 10 mins ago i got a call saying they had just recieved 2 core systems and that he would reserve me one for an hour (naughty).

Got ready to go and got another call saying that when he went down to get one somebody had already sold one, and the other was reserved for a preorder that was a faulty system.

Absolutely gutted.

[nellydoom]

Kerm - very nice thing to do givin the girl the ticket very mature aswell.

[Pc_Madness]

Kerm - very nice thing to do givin the girl the ticket very mature aswell.

I hope he got some out of it though. :\

[Focus Point]

^ Indeed was about to say, a number or something ay :D

[unimatrixzer0]

Are there better alternatives than the standard xbox live headset that comes with the 360 or are most pretty happen with the included headset?

[Craer]

Are there better alternatives than the standard xbox live headset that comes with the 360 or are most pretty happen with the included headset?

If your interested in a quick mod, this works very well

http://www.llamma.com/xbox360/mods/xbox-36...ing-diagram.htm

Other than that, there are no alternatives right now, well madcatz makes one but its just like the one included, imo the microsoft headset is garbage. Mod yours and you will be happy.

Craer

[Focus Point]

Bleh Spent $50 in SMS competition (Australia) to try and win 360 :(

Only sent bout 5 messages too.

[Pc_Madness]

Does anyone know if you can be on Xbox live but have your friends list turned off? As I hear you can only have one gamertag per Live account or something, so it would suck for my bro to be on and my friends trying to chat with him.

[BroChaos Veteran]

i think this might be the first time i posted in here...just got my 360 on saturday. i absolutely love it. i only have pgr3, but if you wanna race, add me to your friends list.

[D,Ranged]

Does anyone know if you can be on Xbox live but have your friends list turned off? As I hear you can only have one gamertag per Live account or something, so it would suck for my bro to be on and my friends trying to chat with him.

You could always try going to personal settings by pushing the guide button then to Online status and changing it to Offline, that might solve your problem.

- D,Ranged -

[golazo]

you guys are so lucky to have the 360 now :( still a bit over 2 months till release here :cry: i got a copy of perfect dark zero, a controller that want to be played but i have no console lol

[Pc_Madness]

you guys are so lucky to have the 360 now :( still a bit over 2 months till release here :cry: i got a copy of perfect dark zero, a controller that want to be played but i have no console lol

Just play PD64.. and then sit there with your controller pretending your playing it while someone else actually plays. :)

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