Pre-release OS support not allowed

[jerry]

I thought support for any pre-release OS was not allowed ... :unsure:

https://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?show...#entry585831049

[Timan Veteran]

Its weird, I think some of the mac mods had a fit over tiger crap, but longhorn crap is allowed to be posted, I don't know, someone does need to figure out whats allowed and whats not.

[jerry]

Its weird, I think some of the mac mods had a fit over tiger crap, but longhorn crap is allowed to be posted, I don't know, someone does need to figure out whats allowed and whats not.

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Same here, its ambiguous.

[+StevoFC MVC]

there is no uniformity at all across the different forum sections. the mods of certain sections seem to make their own rules. and when you question it they act like you have no right to even question what they are doing.

like tiger which was mentioned, everyone wanted the tiger wallpapers and no one was allowed to post them. but, every other day people are asking for longhorn related wallpapers and resources and they are allowed to be posted with no problems, and in some cases hosted on the neowin servers.

[KeR]

well Apple will sue without forgiveness, whereas Microsoft will warn you.

[+StevoFC MVC]

well Apple will sue without forgiveness, whereas Microsoft will warn you.

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the point that i am trying to get across here is that the so called rules have no meaning since they are only enforced when the mods/admin feel like it. the mods here never show a true leadership. they just do what they want whenever they want and don't always follow the rules themselves.

you have one mod saying "ohh you can't post that in the apple section. i'm warning you"

and you have another mod posting the exact same things themself (but for longhorn)

[jerry]

well Apple will sue without forgiveness, whereas Microsoft will warn you.

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Hard to believe considering Microsoft sues people who are legit too :rofl:

MS sues college student for selling legit software

[AgEnTsMiTh]

Is it hard for you to see that I myself closed that thread with the following statement?

We are not a support forum for your illegal obtained software. You want to talk about it that is fine. Asking for support, admitting that you are downloading it etc is a warnable offense. Read the rules.

If you find something in question, report it.

[eSouL]

I also remember the fake MSN 7.0.0814 saga. Every single download URL is removed and threads got locked, but guess what? Neobond later posted the URL on Neowin's front page. (He later clarified that it was a fake build, but that was another issue.) While leaked builds can be posted on the frontpage, members cannot post them on the forums. What rules are these?

[+Neyht Subscriber²]

Hard to believe considering Microsoft sues people who are legit too :rofl:

MS sues college student for selling legit software

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His EULA states that he was not allowed to resell it. So he was doing something illegal. Actually, if he had half a brain in his head he could figure out he was doing something illegal. ;)

[jerry]

Is it hard for you to see that I myself closed that thread with the following statement?

If you find something in question, report it.

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Thanks. But the point is that the Windows Beta forum has many threads similar to that going and going strong. People who shouldnt have Longhorn builds seeking help and getting support from Neowin.

[dougal.s]

Longhorn and Tiger are out there legitimately, and thus neowin is catering for those people. It is not neowins job to check who has it legally or illegally. You can't buy Longhorn for almost two years, you can however buy Tiger, even though it isn't out yet.

Plus Apple have shown their aggressive side recently.

Dougal.

[Gelob]

Is it not illegal to discuss the software. Neowin doesn't tell anybody where to obtain them so they are doing nothing wrong. Neowin makes the choice if they want to support it or not.

[jerry]

Is it not illegal to discuss the software. Neowin doesn't tell anybody where to obtain them so they are doing nothing wrong. Neowin makes the choice if they want to support it or not.

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Wrong, providing support for Tiger is clearly not allowed so I'm questioning why isnt the rule same for Longhorn ?

The Windows Beta Forum is full of posts like these and nothing is being done in this regard.

ely, on your pm you said TARS... is it tars or rars?> if rar, just right click on the file and it will say, EXTRACT HERE. and u do that, install WINRAR first... its free. google is your friend.

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[+StevoFC MVC]

i see that neowin had to remove their screenshots of longhorn, but why can the members post longhorn screenshots in the desktop threads?

[AgEnTsMiTh]

Again StevoFC, I am not sure what else is going on here but, I removed them myself earlier today. I suggest that you do something about it when you see something that should not be up by REPORTING IT.

We cant be everywhere at every time. Please help us when you see something that we may have missed.

[Gelob]

Wrong, providing support for Tiger is clearly not allowed so I'm questioning why isnt the rule same for Longhorn ?

The Windows Beta Forum is full of posts like these and nothing is being done in this regard.

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Learn to read and then shut up. I said discussing not supporting. So all of a sudden saying tiger is the best, the new interface rocks, is now support?

Longhorn is not even beta, its alpha.

[PureLogic]

Its weird, I think some of the mac mods had a fit over tiger crap, but longhorn crap is allowed to be posted, I don't know, someone does need to figure out whats allowed and whats not.

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Yup.

[betasp]

I JUST counted 7 Longhorn support threads with one being 12 PAGES LONG. I, too have noticed this hipocracy. Please Neowin, clarify your position.

I also took the time to report a bunch of threads, none of which have been locked or deleted.

Edited April 29, 2005 by betasp

[jerry]

Learn to read and then shut up. I said discussing not supporting. So all of a sudden saying tiger is the best, the new interface rocks, is now support?

Longhorn is not even beta, its alpha.

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:rofl:

Discussing (in terms of support) is not allowed. Head over to the Mac forums, have a look and then come back.

[Gelob]

:rofl:

Discussing (in terms of support) is not allowed. Head over to the Mac forums, have a look and then come back.

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No DUH! Im talking discussion in general about tiger.

[jerry]

No DUH! Im talking discussion in general about tiger.

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Look at the title of this thread ..

Pre-release OS support not allowed ?

DUH ! :p

[Gelob]

Look at the title of this thread ..

Pre-release OS support not allowed ?

DUH !  :p

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DUH! look at my post that you replied to. i said JUST discussing software is allowed. Then you proceeded to say it wasnt.

:no:

[jerry]

DUH! look at my post that you replied to. i said JUST discussing software is allowed. Then you proceeded to say it wasnt.

:no:

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"Discussing" is a broad term, it could as well include suggesting of where to get it illegally.

What I'm trying to say is that there is ambiguity when it comes to Support for Tiger (not allowed) and Support for Longhorn (allowed).

[GrymmWolf]

Like it or not, agree or not,.. its up to you but Neowin has always been a great support/resource site for beta software (any other oldtimers remember Whistler) and I for one hope it remains that way.