What can be done to help

[vincent]

You, know, i know it. We all see it from time to time. yes i am talking about the "Server is too busy to handle your requests" screen. And to tell you the truth i am getting sick and tired of it. :crazy:

Main reason:

When i wanna provide some help in the hardware hangout, i can't because "the server is too busy to handle your requests." this gets tiresome, i am seeing more and more subscribers everyday ( or is it just me :blink: ) I seem to be getting this error more often as of late. WHY? i don't know, maybe it's just me thinking that or it really is getting bogged down more and more often, I know neowin wants to grow and this community is the best on the internet.

So I'm thinking.. ( and bear with me here) either lockdown the forums to only registered members. (this i dont myself wholeheartedly agree with but i figure what the hay ;) )

OR: can we donate some more funds to help remedy this? I know Neowin uses a boatsized load of bandwidth per month and on Sundays i know that, that is "Backup day"

I personally wouldn't mind at all to help in donating more funds to do my part in getting rid of this problem.

what do you guys think?

Lockdown the forums for only registered members? or donate extra to help

I go with the second choice. :)

[Adrian]

What about if there was another type of subscriber group where they pay X of amount money a month or year and they get put on a different server to the current main ones, the "subscriber server" and the money the subscriber pays goes to maintaining the "subscriber server" ? and therefore subscribers won't have to deal with server busy messages as they are on a totally different server.

[Matt]

What about if there was another type of subscriber group where they pay X of amount money a month or year and they get put on a different server to the current main ones, the "subscriber server" and the money the subscriber pays goes to maintaining the "subscriber server" ? and therefore subscribers won't have to deal with server busy messages as they are on a totally different server.

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thats the last thing neowin needs. to divide its content amongst subscribed and unsubscribed members.

[Sophism]

what about getting a donation account setup, and upgrade to a hell of a lot better server..

(cough timdorr)

[Adrian]

thats the last thing neowin needs.  to divide its content amongst subscribed and unsubscribed members.

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Just add another server, seeing how neowin already have 2 http servers i think, just put a 3rd in for subscribers, and they use the same database server

what about getting a donation account setup, and upgrade to a hell of a lot better server..

(cough timdorr)

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https://www.neowin.net/aboutus.php

[lnmnky]

I didn't know about the donate button, cool (Y)

Edit : I've just donate 10 euros. Every little helps.

[vincent]

I didn't know about the donate button, cool (Y)

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Me neither :blink: :blush:

[Sophism]

k well an upgraded server should be looked into.

[Matt]

as ive suggested in the past let people donate a small sum of money, for those who cannot afford the 13 dollars, have a donater tag or something similar to the subcsriber tag. i appreciate the admins for not litering neowin with outrageous ads, but i think the only way to free up the server usage is to slender down, more so, the forums for non registered members. i understand that sigs and such are disabled but maybe going a step furter. maybe another version of neowin will be less forum-like, for non members, and more similar to a news site. i dont know if this can be done with IVB but know it can be accomplished with vbulletin, but i know neowin is proud of its accomplishment of being the largest IVB on the net so i doubt they would do such a thing.

[Joel]

k well an upgraded server should be looked into.

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Upgraded from the 3 we already have?

[vincent]

k well an upgraded server should be looked into.

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It's not the hardware of the server, they jsut upgraded hardware not too long ago. and added another, It's the bandwidth thats slowing neowin down. I think uploading images should be a no no, maybe that will help. with site like imageshack.us, imagebarrel.com and theres more and more popping up everyday theres no reason to upload images and add to the congestion.

[Adrian]

k well an upgraded server should be looked into.

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Mon3y doesnt grow on trees :(

[Matt]

Mon3y doesnt grow on trees :(

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just one server is only 250-300 dollars a month (and they have 3). :rolleyes:

[Adrian]

just one server is only 250-300 dollars a month (and they have 3). :rolleyes:

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is that directed at me?

Just another point to my other little point, just say theres a seperate group where you pay $5 a month to be put on a seperate server. There would be atleast 50 people out of the 91,648 registered members that would do that (including me), thats already $250 a month. And also that server wont have to be pimped out.

[MateoGWJ]

You can throw 50 servers at the problem, won't mean a thing if there is a bottleneck connection side. It's all about badnwidth.

I agree with rip on this: as much as the images allow everyone's individuality to be expressed, I'd rather bann sig images, etc., to make the most efficient use of the hardware and bandwidth the site has.

[Adrian]

You can throw 50 servers at the problem, won't mean a thing if there is a bottleneck connection side. It's all about badnwidth.

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Surely bandwidth has nothing to do with serverload :huh:

And you could have 50 servers all load balanced to distribute the load efficiently, each having their own connection.

[vincent]

It's members like this that slow down neowin

I';m not talking about banning sigs, since there hotlinked unlike avatars that can be uploaded im talking about pics, uploading them need to be stopped or something

[lnmnky]

You can throw 50 servers at the problem, won't mean a thing if there is a bottleneck connection side. It's all about badnwidth.

I agree with rip on this: as much as the images allow everyone's individuality to be expressed, I'd rather bann sig images, etc., to make the most efficient use of the hardware and bandwidth the site has.

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Sigs are off site though. So that wouldn't matter. Some avatars however are on site.

As well as attached images. Like mine ^. /me Hypocrite.

[+M2Ys4U Subscriber¹]

maybe forcing all unregistered users to use the lite skin (or one with less images) when browsing the forum.

Less images = less hits = les server strain and bandwidth used

[bakerster]

It's members like this that slow down neowin

I';m not talking about banning sigs, since there hotlinked unlike avatars that can be uploaded im talking about pics, uploading them need to be stopped or something

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I PM'ed that guy and told him that its his fault that neowin is falling to peices.

[dtechy]

V.V. Funny Mr Baker :D

[Chode]

It's members like this that slow down neowin

I';m not talking about banning sigs, since there hotlinked unlike avatars that can be uploaded im talking about pics, uploading them need to be stopped or something

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No Flaming, Personal attacks such as flaming, instigating "flame bait", verbal abuse or mocking of members in forum posts are not tolerated at Neowin. Such posts will be deleted on sight and moderated accordingly. If you are a long standing member, act like one. Lead by example and assist other newer members rather then attacking them. We look upon our veteran members to use this opportunity to teach the newer members the appropriate way to use these message boards.

Let's start blaming people for Neowin's supposed slowness :rolleyes:

Your high post count would increase the size of the database more than his hotlinking to images on other servers :sleep:

By the way, I have not seen a server is busy error in well over 6 months now.

[vincent]

Let's start blaming people for Neowin's supposed slowness :rolleyes:

Your high post count would increase the size of the database more than his hotlinking to images on other servers?:sleep::

By the way, I have not seen a server is busy error in well over 6 months now.

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If you wouldve posted in this thread at the time that pic was originally posted you would've seen taht it was earth sized. I wasnt attacking him i was pointing the fact out tha huge images contribute in slowing neowin down, Hes resized and hotlinked;))

And just because you haven't got the message doesn't mean that i haven't

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[Ferret]

I always assumed most images are hosted offsite, apart from some avatars...

I will have to take a closer look at IPB to see if you can force unregistered users to view the 'Lite' version.

But does anyone know whats causing the problem, bandwidth, or the internals of the Servers ?

[Techy_]

Concidering that you are seeing the 'Server load is too High' message or what ever it is, then its the server. If it was the bandwidth then you wouldn't see anything.