KC Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 I have seen the messages too. As far as I know, the "Server to buys messages" is related to the MySQL database. Which if I am correct is hosted on a different server aside from mail and images and HTML. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/313389-what-can-be-done-to-help/page/2/#findComment-585840042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
#Michael Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 Please don't flame....but I did hear rumors at one point that some big sites switching to using vbulletin forums because of the server issues. Don't know if thats true? My personal opinion is to do away with all uploads to the neowin servers and make everything be hotlinked. Honestly because I am a subscriber and do support neowin I keep the ad server adblocked by firefox and I almost never get server errors. Don't know if that is related or not? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/313389-what-can-be-done-to-help/page/2/#findComment-585840047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockz Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 Please don't flame....but I did hear rumors at one point that some big sites switching to using vbulletin forums because of the server issues. Actually thats one of the reasons why we switched from VB to IPB back in 1.0 and 1.1 Don't know how IPB 2.0 holds up when compared to VB 3.0, but I'm sure its still better. The servers would come to a hault completely when VB was on here. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/313389-what-can-be-done-to-help/page/2/#findComment-585840564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
#Michael Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 Actually thats one of the reasons why we switched from VB to IPB back in 1.0 and 1.1Don't know how IPB 2.0 holds up when compared to VB 3.0, but I'm sure its still better. The servers would come to a hault completely when VB was on here. 585840564[/snapback] Actually I did know that NW switched from VB to IPB a long time ago. I just wonder what the comparisons are between IPB 2 and VB 3 in terms of server relibility? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/313389-what-can-be-done-to-help/page/2/#findComment-585840655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockz Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 Actually I did know that NW switched from VB to IPB a long time ago.? I just wonder what the comparisons are between IPB 2 and VB 3 in terms of server relibility? 585840655[/snapback] True... it'd be an interesting thing to see. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/313389-what-can-be-done-to-help/page/2/#findComment-585840678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chmsant Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 .......My personal opinion is to do away with all uploads to the neowin servers and make everything be hotlinked. Honestly because I am a subscriber and do support neowin I keep the ad server adblocked by firefox and I almost never get server errors. Don't know if that is related or not? 585840047[/snapback] Much agreed. Hotlink everything and reduce the size of any posted images/elimate entirely Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/313389-what-can-be-done-to-help/page/2/#findComment-585840709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 you think WinHEC had anything to do with it? Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/313389-what-can-be-done-to-help/page/2/#findComment-585840887 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceDogg Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 Just a little note on the subject of sigs and Avatars. If you feel they slow down Neowin, do what I do turn them off. I don't know if it helps or not, but I hate seeing all the (basicly) ads, so I turned them off. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/313389-what-can-be-done-to-help/page/2/#findComment-585840890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 I remember the vB days. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/313389-what-can-be-done-to-help/page/2/#findComment-585843302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincent Posted May 2, 2005 Author Share Posted May 2, 2005 I been trying to access neowin for the last 10 minutes I still say lock the forums to guests and disable image uploading Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/313389-what-can-be-done-to-help/page/2/#findComment-585862086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhav Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 I been trying to access neowin for the last 10 minutesI still say lock the forums to guests and disable image uploading 585862086[/snapback] i think locking the forums to guests is a pretty drastic move for neowin, especially since it's trying to encourage a bigger better community. disabling image uploading is probably the best method. edit: and this is another problem. it shouldn't quote images. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/313389-what-can-be-done-to-help/page/2/#findComment-585862769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hani Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 My personal opinion is to do away with all uploads to the neowin servers and make everything be hotlinked. Well said Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/313389-what-can-be-done-to-help/page/2/#findComment-585862788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Kompressor Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 no problems with banning images in sigs.. or better yet. Subscribers get to use images but non-paying don't could be another incentive. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/313389-what-can-be-done-to-help/page/2/#findComment-585862834 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.r.l. Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 Some kind of hotlinking server... Timdorr could make uploaded files go on another server... EDIT: Fixed typo in uploaded ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/313389-what-can-be-done-to-help/page/2/#findComment-585863205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Kompressor Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 ^ has a good point. keep the website and database separate from the uploads. on separate machines.. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/313389-what-can-be-done-to-help/page/2/#findComment-585863219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.r.l. Posted May 2, 2005 Share Posted May 2, 2005 Another thing, to keep the HTTP response headers low in size, you can always remove a few headers -> http://checkmyip.info returned: 0. HTTP/1.1 200 OK 1. Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 22:38:37 GMT 2. Server: Apache 3. Connection: close 4. Content-Type: text/html http://neowin.net returned: 0. HTTP/1.1 200 OK 1. Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 22:40:06 GMT 2. Server: Apache/1.3.33 (Unix) mod_gzip/1.3.26.1a mod_auth_passthrough/1.8 mod_log_bytes/1.2 mod_bwlimited/1.4 PHP/4.3.10 mod_ssl/2.8.22 OpenSSL/0.9.7a 3. X-Powered-By: PHP/4.3.10 4. Set-Cookie: neolite=deleted; expires=Sun, 02-May-04 22:40:05 GMT 5. Set-Cookie: main_theme=blue; expires=Tue, 02-May-06 22:40:06 GMT; path=/ 6. Set-Cookie: set_id=4; expires=Tue, 02-May-06 22:40:06 GMT; path=/ 7. Connection: close 8. Content-Type: text/html You could hide the X-Powered-by header (In php.ini, you have the option to remove this, set expose_php = Off) And you can aswell lower the Server (SERVER_SOFTWARE) header by entering ServerTokens Prod (Prod[uct] only) in httpd.conf ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/313389-what-can-be-done-to-help/page/2/#findComment-585863355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yisman Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 Me neither :blink: :blush: 585833734[/snapback] It's always been there, but they didn't want to annoy people with "donate now!" stuff, so you have to look if you want to find it. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/313389-what-can-be-done-to-help/page/2/#findComment-585864711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yisman Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 Let's start blaming people for Neowin's supposed slowness :rolleyes:Your high post count would increase the size of the database more than his hotlinking to images on other servers :sleep: By the way, I have not seen a server is busy error in well over 6 months now. 585839688[/snapback] Geez. Why are you always so cranky? He was just pointing out that some people's sigs are part of the problem. Guess what? He's right. Eta: I see server is busy messages here every few days. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/313389-what-can-be-done-to-help/page/2/#findComment-585864735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yisman Posted May 3, 2005 Share Posted May 3, 2005 i think locking the forums to guests is a pretty drastic move for neowin, especially since it's trying to encourage a bigger better community.disabling image uploading is probably the best method. edit: and this is another problem. it shouldn't quote images. 585862769[/snapback] So delete the image when you quote. Isn't difficult. ;) Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/313389-what-can-be-done-to-help/page/2/#findComment-585864752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
~clean Posted May 4, 2005 Share Posted May 4, 2005 Biggest way to help is to click on the adverts. Takes a few seconds and it goes towards the cost of running the site, of corse if everyone does this there will be more cash avalable for better services at the datacenter that should help neowin run better. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/313389-what-can-be-done-to-help/page/2/#findComment-585871194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotabigtruck Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 How about just switching from hosting to your own server? If Neowin has 3 servers and each is $400/month, that's $1200/month total. Neowin could get Verizon FTTP 30mbit for $200/month and lay down ~$3000 for 3 servers and the servers would pay for themselves as opposed to be previous system. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/313389-what-can-be-done-to-help/page/2/#findComment-585906783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prasanth Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 Geez. Why are you always so cranky? He was just pointing out that some people's sigs are part of the problem. Guess what? He's right. 585864735[/snapback] I don't think sigs contribute much to the server load :/ Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/313389-what-can-be-done-to-help/page/2/#findComment-585907313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockz Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 Geez. Why are you always so cranky? He was just pointing out that some people's sigs are part of the problem. Guess what? He's right.Eta: I see server is busy messages here every few days. 585864735[/snapback] Sigs aren't a problem. They are remotely hosted... unless they were uploaded as an attachment and then that would be a problem. If you see sigs hosted on Neowin... inform us and we will remove them. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/313389-what-can-be-done-to-help/page/2/#findComment-585907345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgEnTsMiTh Posted May 12, 2005 Share Posted May 12, 2005 Locking the forums to members and not guest is something that is never going to happen. Link to comment https://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/313389-what-can-be-done-to-help/page/2/#findComment-585907349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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