h3xis Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 is there ANY retailer out there that sells a cat5(e) crossover cable 20 feet or longer? i've checked radio shack and they sell 10 ft max, same with circuit city. best buy sells them at 14 ft max but i can't find a store that sells them longer than this. if i had the materials i would make my own but i'm sort of in a hurry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted April 27, 2005 Veteran Share Posted April 27, 2005 You can stick a cross-over adapter on any regular cat5(e) cable of whatever length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Cu_Guy Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 You can stick a cross-over adapter on any regular cat5(e) cable of whatever length. Huh? Crossover what? I believe you mean a coupler. Cross over cable ->COUPLER<- patch/straight-through cable Look ma! A long-ass crossover cable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bushrat Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 you don't want any longer than 15 feet, as you will get bad degradation of the signal. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BudMan MVC Posted April 27, 2005 MVC Share Posted April 27, 2005 Are you sure you need a x-over cable even? Most network devices in say the last 3 or 4 years will auto crossover the connection if required.. Ie any somewhat recent router, dsl/cable modem, switch, hub, etc.. will auto switch the connection over if need be.. The only reason you would need a xover cable is if your running between NIC's directly... If that is the case - move the freaking machines closer ;) Or connect them with a switch/hub/router/wireless, etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pythro Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 you don't want any longer than 15 feet, as you will get bad degradation of the signal.Good luck 585839080[/snapback] TIA standards indicate 100 feet as the maximum length for cat 5 cable. Under 100 feet you should not notice any performance degration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Wan Kenobi Posted April 27, 2005 Share Posted April 27, 2005 TIA standards indicate 100 feet as the maximum length for cat 5 cable. Under 100 feet you should not notice any performance degration. 585839104[/snapback] ^that is absolutely correct. I've made my own crossover cables. That was the only way I could find one, although there may be some places that will sell you one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Cu_Guy Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 TIA standards indicate 100 feet as the maximum length for cat 5 cable. Under 100 feet you should not notice any performance degration. That's 100 meters not feet. 100 meters = approx 328 feet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KC Posted April 28, 2005 Share Posted April 28, 2005 Every one tells him to make one but no one gives a good link to a guide. It's easy, and faster then driving all around town looking in stores for one. Just go to one store buy the cable and the modules and in five mins bam your done. Take your pick of guides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spazztastic Posted April 29, 2005 Share Posted April 29, 2005 http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/tools/7470/ Good good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snakehn Posted April 29, 2005 Share Posted April 29, 2005 I've always made my own crossover cables, we had one with a friend of mine, from his house to mine :D that was a long @ss cable and always worked under the rain, the sun, and we never had any problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JkFliPflOp Posted April 29, 2005 Share Posted April 29, 2005 I bought a 30' cable at Fry's. They also have everything you need to make your own. good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spazztastic Posted April 29, 2005 Share Posted April 29, 2005 I've always made my own crossover cables, we had one with a friend of mine, from his house to mine :D that was a long @ss cable and always worked under the rain, the sun, and we never had any problem. 585846971[/snapback] I can make them as much as I want (C-TECH certified -- just passed the exam last week) and if this guy needs a cable, I'll gladly make him one and ship it to him if he pays for the shipping. :] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carrio110 Posted April 29, 2005 Share Posted April 29, 2005 Who's gonna be the 1st to break out the 5-4-3 rule? Ah, the good old days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KayMan2K Posted April 29, 2005 Share Posted April 29, 2005 Pick your posion.... http://www2.newegg.com/Product/ProductList...nDesc=crossover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted April 29, 2005 Veteran Share Posted April 29, 2005 Huh? Crossover what? I believe you mean a coupler.Cross over cable ->COUPLER<- patch/straight-through cable Look ma! A long-ass crossover cable! 585839073[/snapback] Coupler/adapter same thing. In fact, "crossover adapter" is nearly twice as popular on google as "crossover coupler". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japlabot Posted April 29, 2005 Share Posted April 29, 2005 Coupler/adapter same thing.In fact, "crossover adapter" is nearly twice as popular on google as "crossover coupler". 585847024[/snapback] an "adapter" implies that you are 'adapting' from one medium to another, such as an adapter for different types of sockets. A "coupler" implies that the device has the same type of connection on either side - it 'couples' two same connections together . And you wouldn't use a "Crossover adapter" either because that could also mean that you are adapting a streight through cable to a crossover one, in which "adapter" would be the correct term. But the thread starter is looking for a Crossed over cable And there is no such thing as a "crossover coupler" because in the case of a coupler, it makes no difference if it's crossover, rollover or straight-through, it's all the same, it's just a 'coupler'. (Explains your search results) Best bet would be to make the cable yourself. The Category 5e specification specifies that the cable can be as long as 100m, which is about 328-330 feet. You just need a couple of RJ-45 jacks, the 100m cable and some crimpers, find a diagram that you can understand so you can get the colours in the correct order and you should be set. If you want to extend more than 100 metres, you will need an active hub or switch to amplift the signal, a coupler won't do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Derf Veteran Posted April 29, 2005 Veteran Share Posted April 29, 2005 And you wouldn't use a "Crossover adapter either" because that could also mean that you are adapting a streight through cable to a crossover one, in which "adapter" would be the correct term. But the thread starter is looking for a Crossed over cable 585847185[/snapback] I was advising him to "adapt" a regular ethernet cable to work as a crossover cable since he was having trouble finding a long crossover cable but not long regular ethernet cables. I don't really care what is technically correct. "Crossover adapter" is twice as popular on google and more likely to be understood by whatever lame-ass technician works at his local computer shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Japlabot Posted April 29, 2005 Share Posted April 29, 2005 ^ See unsuccessful ninja edit ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h3xis Posted April 29, 2005 Author Share Posted April 29, 2005 http://www.thinkgeek.com/gadgets/tools/7470/Good good? 585846951[/snapback] holy crap! i didn't know they made these! damn, i should check thinkgeek.com more often. aside from this, i made one at school; wasn't as hard as i thought it would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El_Cu_Guy Posted April 29, 2005 Share Posted April 29, 2005 In fact, "crossover adapter" is nearly twice as popular on google as "crossover coupler". That's because it's not a "crossover coupler". It's a coupler. There's couples for all kinds of cables. RCA Component video Phone cable CAT5/6 Coax (though commonly refered to as a barrel) many more If you went into a computer store and said I want a "crossover coupler" they would know what you meant but would think you are retarded because your use of terminology sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumungo4 Posted April 29, 2005 Share Posted April 29, 2005 I have around a 30m network cable and it works fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dozer Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 i went to comp shop and had a 50 ft cross over made up for the same price as the adapter would cost me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyoung1616 Posted May 1, 2005 Share Posted May 1, 2005 (edited) We sell cross-over and straight thru couplers where I work. A straight thru is wired the same at both ends, the crossover is wired the same as a cross over cable at one end, you have two lines crossed comming out. Hook a straight wired cable to to either end but the one that comes out has been crossed by the coupler. We sell lots of straight thru couplers but as far as I know have never sold one of the cross over ones. It's makes more sense to just buy a cross over cable. Cody For the original question we have made up cable at 6, 10, 15, 25, 50 and 100' made up and will make you one up to 1000 foot. Cheaper to get a custom built than a packaged one as we charge 4.5 cents a foot for cable and 19 cents per end. So check you local Computer store they probably make to order also. Not a chain store but look for one that does outside work like networking. You can always make you own, the crimper is around $14.95 and you can buy like a 1000 ft. box of cable for around $25 to $30 a box. The wiring diagrams can be looked up online for straight thru or crossover. Cody Edited May 1, 2005 by cyoung1616 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BudMan MVC Posted May 1, 2005 MVC Share Posted May 1, 2005 ^ 1000 Ft cable - yeah ok! Like that would work ;) Yeah sure they sell it in spools of that length - does not mean you can crimp connectors to both ends and it will work.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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