What can I take to improve my memory?

[Cvrt7.62Ghst]

I used to have ADHD and a horrible memory. I was also alergic to chocolate, milk, red dye 40 and yellow dye 10. I too tried rittilan and all that crap. I went to a Doctor named Katherine Dalkhie who is here: Fulcrum Healthcare. She gave me some homeopathic remides which cured me. I can now eat whatever I want and no longer have ADHD.

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I just got through talking with a friend who works at GNC and he gave me the following list of suppliments and herbs that involve the memory/brain

Acetylcholine - Maximizes mental ability and prevents memory loss.

Choline - Increases levels of acetylcholine

Manganese - Helps nourish the brain and nerves. Aids in the utilization of choline

Superoxide Dismutase - Known For its ability to eliminate free radicals (*Cancer)

Vitamin B complex - Improve memory. Helps in transformation of the amino acid choline to the neurotransmitter acetylcholine

Vitamin B3 -  To promote proper circulation to the brain and aid in brain function

Vitamin C - A powerful anioxidant that also improves circulation

Vitamin E - Causes dilation of blood vessels, improving blood flow to the brain

Zinc - Important in binding toxic substances and removing them from the brain.

Coenzyme Q10 helps with brain oxygenation

Herbs include

Ginko Biloba

Anise

Blue Cohosh

Ginseng

and rosemary

[nukenorman]

Focus Factor but its 75 bucks o yea plus the tax so its like 85 bucks

umm yea

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I work 12+ hours a day programming. 75$ is just over 2 hours work. When you put in 80-90 hours a week, 75$ a month is well worth it if it will help my memory.

[betasp]

As I have gotten older, I have found I have the same problem. I just don't fell as mentally quick as I was at an earlier age. I am in the same boat as you. I have tried ADD meds to no avail, and my time is worth more than money... I may give Focus Vactor a try.

[ootput]

A dose of Kevin Trudeau's amazing program.

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A dose of Kevin Trudeau's amazing program.

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What do you mean?

[Yusuf M. Veteran]

Try and remember people's faces. That always works for me. The more you remember, the better your memory is. And try and remember things you haven't thought of for along time, maybe an old place you used to go to.. or your elementary school.

[whytehouse]

I work 12+ hours a day programming. 75$ is just over 2 hours work. When you put in 80-90 hours a week, 75$ a month is well worth it if it will help my memory.

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If you really are making $150,000+ a year you can afford a real doctor to help you with the memory loss problem. Go find a specialist who deals in memory loss issues. Or an herbalist if you are convinced herbs are the right path.

Why would you waste your time fishing around here for free advice that is worth what you're paying for it? To put it bluntly, worthless advice. Ditto with your friend from GNC. I'm sure she means well, but again, get a clue. Is she a trained/licensed herbalist who is familar with treating memory loss issues? Didn't think so, neither is anyone posting on these boards.

Did you think of asking your current doctor for a referral to a specialist? That's usually what doctors do when they don't know how to address an issue.

P.S. - I'm a highly motivated individual and making the same kind of money you mentioned. However, my profession allows me to make that kind of money working 45 to 50 hours a week. If I were working more, I would make more, but I choose not to. That's my lifestyle choice.

Maybe you are young and haven't figured life out yet, but it's not about how much money you make. If you're not living life, that money is worthless. Seriously, you might want to consider rearranging your priorities. When it comes to material or physical things, your health must come first. If health issues are not a priority for you, your life can go away. Trust me, it does for many people who don't address unhealthy lifestyles. It's hard to work 80-90 hours if you are not alive, right?

I know you mentioned you're the healthiest person you know, but maybe that's not that healthy if everyone you know is working 80-90 hours a week. Have you ever thought about another career that wouldn't possibly ruin your health?

P.S.S. If you think this is a bullsh*t answer, try taking a few moments to think about the questions I've asked. They may lead to a logical solution for your problem.

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If you really are making $150,000+ a year you can afford a real doctor to help you with the memory loss problem.  Go find a specialist who deals in memory loss issues.  Or an herbalist if you are convinced herbs are the right path. 

Why would you waste your time fishing around here for free advice that is worth what you're paying for it?  To put it bluntly, worthless advice.  Ditto with your friend from GNC.  I'm sure she means well, but again, get a clue.  Is she a trained/licensed herbalist who is familar with treating memory loss issues?  Didn't think so, neither is anyone posting on these boards.

Did you think of asking your current doctor for a referral to a specialist?  That's usually what doctors do when they don't know how to address an issue.

P.S. - I'm a highly motivated individual and making the same kind of money you mentioned.  However, my profession allows me to make that kind of money working 45 to 50 hours a week.  If I were working more, I would make more, but I choose not to.  That's my lifestyle choice.

Maybe you are young and haven't figured life out yet, but it's not about how much money you make.  If you're not living life, that money is worthless.  Seriously, you might want to consider rearranging your priorities.  When it comes to material or physical things, your health must come first.  If health issues are not a priority for you, your life can go away.  Trust me, it does for many people who don't address unhealthy lifestyles.  It's hard to work 80-90 hours if you are not alive, right?

I know you mentioned you're the healthiest person you know, but maybe that's not that healthy if everyone you know is working 80-90 hours a week.  Have you ever thought about another career that wouldn't possibly ruin your health?

P.S.S. If you think this is a bullsh*t answer, try taking a few moments to think about the questions I've asked.  They may lead to a logical solution for your problem.

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Don't worry, this isn't a BS answer, it's actually a good one. However, as for the working 80 hours a week and possibly not being too healthy, I actually am. I jog to and from work, which is about 2.5 miles a day. My work has a personal gym, and I freshen up before actually going into my office.

I know my friend that works for GNC isn't a professional, however, he does have access to information that I don't.

I have attempted to see a doctor, but according to 2 doctors, I don't have a 'condition'. I believe I have memory loss, and the doctors agree with me, but they state that my level of memory loss is completley normal. I just wish my memory was better.

I also eat quite healthy. My bosses wife cooks for my boss, myself and 2 others every day for dinner. I bring a reasonably healthy lunch, and I always eat breakfast.

[Tobey]

u need a RAM or DDR 512M? 1G?

[boogerjones]

gingko baloba has been proven to help memory. I'm curious what else is out there.

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Let me explain something to you. Studies like THIS are used by companies that sell herbal products such as gingko baloba to argue that gingko baloba is "proven" to help memory. It's an unfair generalization, it's an overdrawn conclusion, and it's just plain silly of you to believe this kind of hype. Of course GNC is going to market products as memory-restoring medicines because they WANT TO MAKE MONEY! And people like you, and many others in this thread, are buying into it.

Our commercial society preys on gullible people like you, and succeeds in doing so. This is no different than those advertisements for pills that you take to lose weight. "Take these pills, sit on your ass all day, and you'll lose 30 pounds just like me!! If I can do it, than so can you!"

Bottom line: if these medicines/supplements really worked, then we'd all be stuffing herbal extracts down our throats all day.

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Let me explain something to you.  Studies like THIS are used by companies that sell herbal products such as gingko baloba to argue that gingko baloba is "proven" to help memory.  It's an unfair generalization, it's an overdrawn conclusion, and it's just plain silly of you to believe this kind of hype.  Of course GNC is going to market products as memory-restoring medicines because they WANT TO MAKE MONEY!  And people like you, and many others in this thread, are buying into it.

Our commercial society preys on gullible people like you, and succeeds in doing so.  This is no different than those advertisements for pills that you take to lose weight.  "Take these pills, sit on your ass all day, and you'll lose 30 pounds just like me!! If I can do it, than so can you!"

Bottom line: if these medicines/supplements really worked, then we'd all be stuffing herbal extracts down our throats all day.

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You have an extremely biased opinion.

Are you trying to say Asprin doesn't work as it is supposed to?

Hell, every time I get a cold, I buy cough medicine. It never seems to do the trick, but I still buy it.

I'm not asking for some stupid jackass like yourself to whine about any crap like that. Just because you don't think that herbal suppliments don't work, doesn't mean they don't work.

I have friends who weightlift, and without nutritional suppliments, they never would have gained the muscle that they have.

Was creatine banned from the major leagues because it "didn't work"?

How about you go troll somewhere else you stupid PoS. I didn't come here asking for you to tell me that I'm 'gullible'. It's retards like you that are gullible because you think EVERY advertised product on the market is a scam.

I'll take a goddamn sugar pill if I can convince myself to thin that it will help my memory. I'll take whatever doctors/scientists say will help.

[Zxian]

I'll take a goddamn sugar pill if I can convince myself to thin that it will help my memory. I'll take whatever doctors/scientists say will help.

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I think this is where your problem lies. From what I've read thus far, you're not willing to put in the effort to overcome your 'condition' as you called it. Anyone else with a medical condition has to take it into consideration in their daily lives and make adjustments.

As for being healthy, there's more to it than just eating properly and getting physical exercise. Your memory loss could be assiciated with you not being mentally healthy (not that you're crazy or anything). Your brain needs time to relax and not do anything. You seriously need to listen to the people here (myself included) who have said that you work far too much. It could actually be a case of your brain "filling up" with all the stuff that you do at work, so you can't remember anything else. Crazy as it sounds, it happened to me in my last year of high school, where I crammed the full courseloads of Grades 11 and 12 into 10 months. I forgot a lot of things outside of my schoolwork such as going out with friends, phone calls, etc. After the year was over, I never forgot those things.

In general, quick fixes never work. Yeah, they'll make you better right here and now, but in the end, you'll just get back to where you started. I've got problems with my right knee, where it will start to ache after extended periods of not moving. I started taking Tylenol to help with the pain, but after a while, I realised that they weren't having as much effect. I talked to a sports doctor at my university, and he said that I simply needed to build some soft tissue. The only way to do this is by exercising. I've made it a point to work this into my schedule nowadays.

Take a look at laser eye surgery. Yeah, it gets you near perfect or perfect vision in a matter of days, but 5-6 years down the road, your eye heals back to its natural shape and you're stuck either shelling out another $5K or wearing your good ol' spectacles again. Again, the quick fix that doesn't hold.

The funny thing about Creatine is that all it does is water retension. As you work out, it fills in your muscles what would normally be protien (=muscle) with water. The moment you stop using it and stop working out, you deflate like a popped balloon. Yet another quick fix... get my drift?

You should consider backing off a bit from work. Even cutting it down to 10 hours a day (which is still too much by most standards) would help immensely. Spend the free 2 hours a day reading, relaxing, and maybe even doing nothing. You'll probably see some improvement.

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Take a look at laser eye surgery. Yeah, it gets you near perfect or perfect vision in a matter of days, but 5-6 years down the road, your eye heals back to its natural shape and you're stuck either shelling out another $5K or wearing your good ol' spectacles again. Again, the quick fix that doesn't hold.

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You might want to look into laser eye surgery again. Apparently you haven't read up on it in a while. My brother just had it done for 300$ per eye without any insurance.

I know that was slightly off topic, but just in case you were interested in getting the surgery done.

[Dick Montage]

gingko baloba has been LINKED with better short-term memory. It's not been PROVEN!

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It's better than sitting around with my thumb up my ass forgetting what I was supposed to do this weekend.

[Dick Montage]

That's as maybe, but I am simply stating that the word "proven" is hugely misleading.

What may be better is to look into something more mental than physical. Repeat what you have been told, repeat names, etc.

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That's as maybe, but I am simply stating that the word "proven" is hugely misleading.

What may be better is to look into something more mental than physical.  Repeat what you have been told, repeat names, etc.

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My ADD makes that difficult. I'm not joking either.

[boogerjones]

You have an extremely biased opinion.

Are you trying to say Asprin doesn't work as it is supposed to?

Hell, every time I get a cold, I buy cough medicine. It never seems to do the trick, but I still buy it.

I'm not asking for some stupid jackass like yourself to whine about any crap like that.  Just because you don't think that herbal suppliments don't work, doesn't mean they don't work.

I have friends who weightlift, and without nutritional suppliments, they never would have gained the muscle that they have.

Was creatine banned from the major leagues because it "didn't work"?

How about you go troll somewhere else you stupid PoS. I didn't come here asking for you to tell me that I'm 'gullible'. It's retards like you that are gullible because you think EVERY advertised product on the market is a scam.

I'll take a goddamn sugar pill if I can convince myself to thin that it will help my memory. I'll take whatever doctors/scientists say will help.

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Whoa, angry. Yes, aspirin and muscle supplements work. But you're comparing colds, pain relief, building muscles, and other clearly measurable and modifiable physiological changes to memory abilities, which are not easily measured or described. Your friends who lift weights are actually building cells, blood vessels and muscle components, and yes, supplements can help with that process. Aspirin's mechanism of action for pain relief is clearly documented and the biophysiological effect makes perfect sense. But you're asking for medicines that will make physiological changes to improve your memory, and they simply don't exist.

Your last 2 sentences perfectly describe the placebo effect = drugs that do nothing but you're convinced that they work so they appear to have an effect. This is the power of the mind, so as long as you're convinced that eating your own feces will improve your memory, then GNC will start selling your **** to you.

I'm not sure why you're so mad at me. You can call me retarded, PoS, stupid, or other creative names, but it's not going to change the fact that you're wrong. You asked if there are OTC drugs that will help your memory, and the answer is no.

[Kreuger]

I've got really bad memory too for the most part. It seems no matter how long and hard I study or how short after I take a test after studying, I still cant remember. I was diagnosed with ADHD and probably have ADD as well. Some things I can rememeber are wierd things that happened when I was really young. It seems like I can only remember the odd times in my life.

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Are you trying to say Asprin doesn't work as it is supposed to?

I believe this is sort of a thing that's just all in your head. If you think it will work, it will. But that's also different because I heard that most common headaches are caused by dehydration and the water people use to chase the Aspirin or whatever they take, is actually what rids you of the headache. Edited June 3, 2005 by Kreuger

[Nelsinho]

what?? :rolleyes: you speak about personal memory, or I I'm wrong about memory :rolleyes:

[Zxian]

You might want to look into laser eye surgery again. Apparently you haven't read up on it in a while. My brother just had it done for 300$ per eye without any insurance.

I know that was slightly off topic, but just in case you were interested in getting the surgery done.

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I wouldn't trust a $300 laser eye surgery clinic... seems a bit sketchy to me. But let me know how things go for him in 5 years, if his eyes are just as good as they are now.

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I wouldn't trust a $300 laser eye surgery clinic... seems a bit sketchy to me. But let me know how things go for him in 5 years, if his eyes are just as good as they are now.

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It's not that they aren't trustworthy. It's that when laser surgery was 3000$ it also didn't take 2 seconds per eye.

He had it done just over a year ago, and when he went in for his yearly checkup at his eyedoctors, he has 20/20 vision, and his eye doctor said his eyes are perfectly healthy.

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I believe this is sort of a thing that's just all in your head. If you think it will work, it will. But that's also different because I heard that most common headaches are caused by dehydration and the water people use to chase the Aspirin or whatever they take, is actually what rids you of the headache.

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I agree with you on that part and that doesn't bother me. If I believe something will work for me, it will.

I spoke with a dietary nutritionist earlier today and she pointed out that the vitamins DO in fact do exactly what they are supposed to do. She said that it's like eating. When you eat, your body uses those nutrients, and some get used in the brain, however, when you swallow a high dose of nutrients that is only used by the brain, the brain has more to work with and therefor is not starved of the nutrients it needs to function at its best. She has recommended a countless cocktail of vitamins, minerals, and suppliments to her patients and she has yet to hear any complaints.

I'm goin with the dietary nutritionist on this one, and not the kids here that 'think' they know something about the subject. I could care less if 25$ a month goes into buying these vitamins. I'm buying some. I'd highly recommend that the people who 100% doubt the effect of these vitamins/minerals go get some and try it. Because the way you guys are saying it, is that the body just doesn't need vitamins/minerals. You guys think, that just because it's been extracted into a pill form, that it isn't going to work as effectively as if you found it in a steak.