Moving to AMD 64 bit, what motherboard do I chose?

[saxondale.]

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo...roductID=138559

I think that should do the trick, or if you want to spend a bit more than this:

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo...roductID=143949

[Elliot B.]

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo...roductID=138559

I think that should do the trick, or if you want to spend a bit more than this:

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo...roductID=143949

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I want a good make (the first one I am not keen on) but ?70 for a PSU is a lot isn't it?

[saxondale.]

I want a good make (the first one I am not keen on) but ?70 for a PSU is a lot isn't it?

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a good make:blink:: Tagan are one of the best, you can get the same without the blue lights for the same price

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo...roductID=138558

[Elliot B.]

a good make :blink: Tagan are one of the best, you can get the same without the blue lights for the same price

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo...roductID=138558

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Oh right, I have just never heard of them, sorry :s

[saxondale.]

you are right thinking about a brand name, because when it comes to this stuff, it has to be a brand name, or your computer will not like you :p but yer, tagan seems to be the cheapest for your needs, and its also one of the best :)

[metro]

s754 is a cpu that does not do dual channel ram and has a lower HTT. s939 has dual channel enabled and a higher HTT and more future compatiblity.

And you do know that a 3000+ isnt 3.0ghz but 1.8ghz?

I would get a 3200+, DFI Lanparty UT Ultra-d and 2x512mb of OCZ Platinum  Rev2

David

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If you are gonna get a DFI NF4 board, get the DFI Lanparty UT NF4-D. It has dual PCI-Express slots, but no SLI or SATA II support. The trick is, there is a little mod you can do on the NF4 chipset to enable SLI and SATA II. The NF4-D uses the same PCB and layout with a couple small differences such as dual gigabit LAN adapters and some other things like extra cables and a bay adapter for debug and configuration.

There are jumpers you can set to enable SLI once you do the mod, and SATA II will always be enabled without the use of a jumper. It is pretty damn sweet. I just got my board and am waiting to get my 2 7800GTX cards to run SLI for my new system. For now, I am just moving my 6800 Ultra into the board until I can afford the new video cards. A great cheap solution for SLI, but you do have to get an SLI bridge. Leadtek offers one for sale now, or you can get an SLI package with 2 of their cards and the bridge.

[Elliot B.]

Thanks to saxondale., I have decided on my motherboard and PSU. I can decide on the CPU myself, same for the case, but I need a little help on the RAM side of things.

I am getting 2x512 MB chips. I am getting a 939 processor so I assume I will be able to go dual-channel? Does that motherboard support it? Anyway, back to the main RAM question, should I get PC3200 or PC4000?

[saxondale.]

Thanks to saxondale., I have decided on my motherboard and PSU. I can decide on the CPU myself, same for the case, but I need a little help on the RAM side of things.

I am getting 2x512 MB chips. I am getting a 939 processor so I assume I will be able to go dual-channel? Does that motherboard support it? Anyway, back to the main RAM question, should I get PC3200 or PC4000?

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yes it supports dual channel. Im guessing you are a gamer, how much money do you have to spend on ram? overclocking at all?

[Elliot B.]

yes it supports dual channel.  Im guessing you are a gamer, how much money do you have to spend on ram? overclocking at all?

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Yeah I am a gamer, and I won't be overclocking. I will be buying from Crucial and there are two types of RAM that they do; Ballistix and Ballistix Tracer. I have no idea what the difference is. Either way, 2x 512 MB PC4000 is around ?120 inc. VAT and 2x 512 MB PC3200 is around ?80. Will I get a lot better performance if I went with the PC4000? ?40 is a lot extra.

[saxondale.]

Yeah I am a gamer, and I won't be overclocking. I will be buying from Crucial and there are two types of RAM that they do; Ballistix and Ballistix Tracer. I have no idea what the difference is. Either way, 2x 512 MB PC4000 is around ?120 inc. VAT and 2x 512 MB PC3200 is around ?80. Will I get a lot better performance if I went with the PC4000? ?40 is a lot extra.

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personally i would get PC4000 for overclocking, and maybe you can say its better for the longterm, but as you said, you are not overclocking, PC3200 will do you just as go:) :) and with that ?40 you could get a better psu if you wanted, or just keep it towards a kick ass case. About the differences between the ram, i dont have a clue, im not a Crucial person, im sure other people can tell you the differences between the two.

[Elliot B.]

personally i would get PC4000 for overclocking, and maybe you can say its better for the longterm, but as you said, you are not overclocking, PC3200 will do you just as good :) and with that ?40 you could get a better psu if you wanted, or just keep it towards a kick ass case.  About the differences between the ram, i dont have a clue, im not a Crucial person, im sure other people can tell you the differences between the two.

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PC3200 it is:)) There are three types though lol, which one?

http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/listmodule...abid=DDR+PC3200

[saxondale.]

PC3200 it is :) There are three types though lol, which one?

http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/listmodule...abid=DDR+PC3200

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out of the 3, i would get the middle one, but i just noticed the timings, ouch, pretty bad to be honest, you might want to consider my ram (see sig) you want to find something with at least 2.5-3-3-6 stock and its like ?20 cheaper as well:))

[Elliot B.]

out of the 3, i would get the middle one, but i just noticed the timings, ouch, pretty bad to be honest, you might want to consider my ram (see sig) you want to find something with at least 2.5-3-3-6 stock and its like ?20 cheaper as well:))

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I believe you're talking about the CL=3 bit? Is that not good? I have no idea what 'timings' mean. Also, I disable signatures so I have no idea what RAM you have lol

[saxondale.]

you want something with CL2.5, and this is my ram:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/GeIL_Value.html

2nd from top :)

[drshdw]

If you are gonna get a DFI NF4 board, get the DFI Lanparty UT NF4-D. It has dual PCI-Express slots, but no SLI or SATA II support. The trick is, there is a little mod you can do on the NF4 chipset to enable SLI and SATA II. The NF4-D uses the same PCB and layout with a couple small differences such as dual gigabit LAN adapters and some other things like extra cables and a bay adapter for debug and configuration.

There are jumpers you can set to enable SLI once you do the mod, and SATA II will always be enabled without the use of a jumper. It is pretty damn sweet. I just got my board and am waiting to get my 2 7800GTX cards to run SLI for my new system. For now, I am just moving my 6800 Ultra into the board until I can afford the new video cards. A great cheap solution for SLI, but you do have to get an SLI bridge. Leadtek offers one for sale now, or you can get an SLI package with 2 of their cards and the bridge.

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I think my DFI nForce4 Ultra-D already has SATAII..just not SLI.

[Alex Shenoy]

I dont know why every one recomends OCZ there expensive and you can get the same results from cheaper memory like corsair, giel or kingston. I like giel its inexpensive and comes with a nifty hit spreader :D

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When I was looking at ram, the OCZ and Corsair modules that were equivalently priced had different timings. The OCZ had better timings and latency.

--Alex

[Elliot B.]

Thank you to everyone who replied. I decided on the following...

MOBO: MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum (nForce3)

CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3200 (S939) "Venice" (Retail)

RAM: GeIL 1GB (2x512MB) PC3200 Value Dual Channel Kit CAS2.5 (MY-005-GL)

CASE: Coolermaster Cavalier 3 (Silver)

KB: Logitech Media Keyboard (Retail)

DVD-RW: Pioneer DVR-109 (OEM)

PSU: 420W Tagan i-Xeye (with blue LED)

Total is ?447.62 inc. VAT but not inc. P&P.

[saxondale.]

4 things recommended by me :p anyway, sweet system

and i would personally get the NEC3540

[youm0nt Veteran]

ah nevermind,you're getting the geil memory instead of crucial. $1 difference. :p

[Argote]

Thank you to everyone who replied. I decided on the following...

MOBO: MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum (nForce3)

CPU: AMD Athlon 64 3200 (S939) "Venice" (Retail)

RAM: GeIL 1GB (2x512MB) PC3200 Value Dual Channel Kit CAS2.5 (MY-005-GL)

CASE: Coolermaster Cavalier 3 (Silver)

KB: Logitech Media Keyboard (Retail)

DVD-RW: Pioneer DVR-109 (OEM)

PSU: 420W Tagan i-Xeye (with blue LED)

Total is ?447.62 inc. VAT but not inc. P&P.

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nice choices there:DD

[saxondale.]

ah nevermind,you're getting the geil memory instead of crucial. $1 difference.  :p

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and the geil memory has better timings, better overclocking ability (If he ever wanted to) and it also comes with a heat spreader

[dL]

I'd stick with AGP boards for now until PCI-e gets more popular. I mean there is only like PCI-e video cards that are widely spreading now, nothing else. Wait until the Longhorn release date area and then decide for PCI-e or whatever they come out in the future.

Also, AGP and PCI-e aren't that much of a performance difference. However, PCI-e express cards tend to be more expensive at times. If you want to do dual cards, then go with PCI-e. Otherwise, stick with AGP.

For my recommended motherboard, AGP wise, go with MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum.

For PCI-e wise, go with the Asus A8N Series (Depending on SLI or not).

For processor, that truly depends on your budget. If you want a value one, get the 3200+, else get the 3700+ San Diego (1MB L2 Cache).

dL

Edit: Whoops, just found out you've already made your decision. Good one :)

[ShiFteDReaLitY]

about the rails on the power supply.... u can get a 500watt power supply with 12v@34A for 50 dollars... and its a really good power supply.... check it out.. for all of u who want a good power supply for cheap..... plus the fan speed control and shiny black finish make it great also! :laugh:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16817182004

or maybe the 550?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16817182010

and heres on that comes with a 24pin connector instead of having a adapter...(well it has a 24pin to 20pin adapter :p

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?...N82E16817182010

[saxondale.]

erm i have never herd of that make, and when it comes to PSU's you need a big brand

[mikeboy]

about the PSU, get something known, look for reviews, a lot of them on the PSU, read all you can about it, since the stability of its rails will determine if your pc fries or lives!