jokeripa Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 (edited) I found out earlier today that Ciara is actually a man... its new to me, did anyone else know?? It may be a rumour but i dunno Origins: Ciara Ciara Harris, an 18-year-old who performs under the sole name of Ciara, has been dubbed the First Lady of "Crunk & B," a genre of music described as a grinding, dancefloor-friendly alternative to R&B. Her 2004 album, "Goodies," topped the charts, and she has been nominated at the 19th annual Soul Train Music Awards in four categories, including best R&B/soul single, female ("Goodies") and best R&B/soul or rap new artist.She is beautiful and talented. And someone has tied a nasty rumor to her. We first heard this scuttlebutt about her being born a male in January 2005; it has since fallen on our ears in a number of forms: * The singer came into the world as a male, but somewhere along the way either she or her parents decided she should become a girl, with surgery performed on her to bring about this transformation. * She was born male, but a botched circumcision did irreparable harm to her manly parts, so her parents opted to have what was left of her made into a girl. * She started life as an intersexual, a person of mixed genders. Once again, a surgical solution was sought on her behalf, but in this version of the whisper, it was to correct her body to being wholly one gender rather than a mixture of the two. (NOTE: 'Intersexual' is the preferred medical term for persons of ambiguous gender, replacing 'hermaphrodite.' Follow the link provided in the "Additional Information" section of this page for more information on intersexuality.) * She voiced this startling disclosure on national television, with The Oprah Winfrey Show often named as the venue in which she made this revelation. Ciara's father serves in the U.S. military, so her family moved from Army post to Army post during her childhood, living in Germany, New York, California, Arizona, and Nevada, before finally settling in Atlanta. Ergo, claims that her parents just opted to have a girl child crafted from the male child the stork delivered should be viewed with skepticism, in light of the cost of such procedures and the relatively low pay accorded those in the armed forces. The assertion that Ciara was on The Oprah Winfrey Show is false; we can find no record of her having been a guest on that show. Many urban legends which feature a shocking revelation being made on a TV show name Oprah's as the one where it was voiced (e.g., designer Liz Claiborne confides she doesn't design for African-American women because "their hips are too big," designer Tommy Hilfiger states "If I knew that blacks and Asians were going to wear my clothes, I would have never designed them," the CEO of Procter & Gamble admits his company tithes ten per cent of its revenues to the Church of Satan). We haven't figured out why this is, other than Oprah Winfrey seeming like the kind of person one could tell anything to. The singer herself has denied the rumor. The New York Daily News quoted Ciara on this subject: R&B sensation Ciara just wants everyone to know: She's all woman. "You know what's funny? The rumor that I used to be a man," she told us at the launch party for Vibe Vixen magazine at Frederick's. "They said Oprah said that on her show," she laughed. "I've never been on Oprah in my life ? we all know I have years before I go on Oprah, so come on!" Muddle-headed confusion between the songstress Ciara and a transsexual in Ireland who shares the same name may well have worked to create this rumor. Ireland's Ciara was born in 1968 (which is about 20 years before the gal who was to become the popular Crunk & B singer). The Emerald Isle's Ciara came into this world male but in 1999 was surgically transformed into a female. Online searches for 'ciara' quickly find the Irish Ciara's web page, which chronicles her experience of being surgically regendered. Perhaps the rumor about a talented young singer therefore properly lies at the feet of someone who could not conceive of there being more than one person in the world bearing that particular given name. Degrees of intersexuality vary in intensity from presence of an additional Y chromosome to being born with a mixed set of genitals. Treatment of cases of blatant intersexuality is generally (but not always) surgical in nature, with reconstruction performed on the infant patient to add or remove body parts so as to end up with a child completely male or female in physical appearance. Hormones are also given towards this end, but there is a limit to what can be corrected medically. Though an appearance of sexual normalcy can be constructed, fully functional reproductive organs cannot. According to Dr. Anne Fausto-Sterling, a recognized expert in this field of study, 1-1/2 to 2 percent of all births do not fall strictly within the tight definition of all-male or all-female, even if the child looks "normal." In reaching her numbers, Dr. Fausto-Sterling is counting all incidents of intersexuality, from mild to extreme. The incidence of children with mixed genitalia is pegged at 1 in 2,000 to 1 in 3,000, or 0.033 to 0.05 percent of all births. :unsure:e: if she is I've done some wrong things:pinch:h: Edited August 1, 2005 by disturb3d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kawai Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 I found out earlier today that Ciara is actually a man... its new to me, did anyone else know?? It may be a rumour but i dunno Source: Here :unsure: if she is I've done some wrong things :pinch: 586305641[/snapback] Description: Internet rumor/Hoax Circulating since: 2004 (as rumor) Status: False Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jokeripa Posted August 1, 2005 Author Share Posted August 1, 2005 ^ thats only from one source though... different sources, different ideas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jafoman Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 I found out earlier today that Ciara is actually a man... its new to me, did anyone else know?? It may be a rumour but i dunno Source: Here :unsure: if she is I've done some wrong things :pinch: 586305641[/snapback] At the top it clearly says "Status: False" so why bother posting this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdb815 Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 Yeah, this has been going around for a while now. It's just a rumor. if she is I've done some wrong things :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiegel Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 maybe thats the goodies he/she/it was talking about :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jokeripa Posted August 1, 2005 Author Share Posted August 1, 2005 maybe thats the goodies he/she/it was talking about :p 586305662[/snapback] :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostShell Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 maybe thats the goodies he/she/it was talking about :p 586305662[/snapback] haha I think you're right. :p :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnimeUSA Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 Oh, so we're playing this game, eh? Fine, I'll join in. Let's not forget the famous South Korean transexual, Harisu. (Well technically I guess he's a she now.) You wouldn't know something was up until she spoke. The voice throws you way off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doli Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 I found out earlier today that Ciara is actually a man... its new to me, did anyone else know?? 586305641[/snapback] Did you even read your source, it states thats she wasnt and you still post that you think she is a man? She never been on Oprah, it was a diffrent person named ciara, as it clearly says. How did you mix it up and still think she was a man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpshiznid Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 This was recently brought up in a magazine article with Ciara, and she proved it false. I have the article and am willing to scan if no one believes me. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pto Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 This was recently brought up in a magazine article with Ciara, and she proved it false. I have the article and am willing to scan if no one believes me. :p 586305780[/snapback] :laugh: What do you mean 'proved it' false? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kombolcha Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 This was recently brought up in a magazine article with Ciara, and she proved it false. I have the article and am willing to scan if no one believes me. :p 586305780[/snapback] SHOW US! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Montage Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 I'd still hit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jokeripa Posted August 1, 2005 Author Share Posted August 1, 2005 SHOW US! 586305817[/snapback] she/he should ! Just to prove to all us who are sceptical! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpshiznid Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 :laugh: What do you mean 'proved it' false? 586305811[/snapback] Well, almost everyone. Over the past few months, gossipmongers have been spreading a bizarre Internet rumor: The singer, the story goes, was born intersexual and (stay with us here) recently outed herself as a ''lesbian hermaphrodite'' on Oprah. ''I don't know how that rumor got started, but I know who I am,'' she says. ''I've never even been on Oprah!'' Her eyes narrow. ''The music business is just like high school. People build you up so they can see you tumble.'' She didn't entirely say whether she was or wasn't. Hmm. :laugh: SHOW US! 586305817[/snapback] http://www.ew.com/ew/report/0,6115,1083249_4_0_,00.html You may have to be a EW subscriber to view that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revvo Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 Oh, so we're playing this game, eh? Fine, I'll join in.Let's not forget the famous South Korean transexual, Harisu. (Well technically I guess he's a she now.) You wouldn't know something was up until she spoke. The voice throws you way off. 586305768[/snapback] Probably have no testicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Khan Reviews Posted August 1, 2005 Reviews Share Posted August 1, 2005 That's one sexy "Man" :laugh: I know it's all rumour though :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperJediMedia Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 Some people have NO sense. :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest andrea484 Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 ciara is so sexy, she is girl and hot :woot: If ciara is man, i wanna f**k this sexy man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nashy Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 Yeah, my workmate told me about this the otherday. I just hated it a whole lot more than I already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jexel Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 there should make a show called "there's something about ciara"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reveries Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 LOL LOL LOL i hate that song 1,2 Step its just PLAIN ANNOYING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kerm Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 She looks like a man to me... :blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skiiper Posted August 1, 2005 Share Posted August 1, 2005 Ciara does look kinda... un-feminish... but i dun think she's a man, once she was on vancouver radio and she sed if anyone can find the proof that she was once a man, she'll give all her money to that person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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