Windows Vista Sidebar Returns

[Kaidiir]

:)

I'm glad its back too. I think the sidebar has great potential to be what the start menu always wished it was.

You know, with system resource graphs, email notifiers, integrated IM windows...etc.

What I liked about the sidebar in LH 4074 was the fact that it logged all the windows OS alert windows...even things as benign as a LAN connectifity message. It was cool, and it could be quite useful.

Point being, I think the sidebar could be a really good thing for Vista. It would need to be able to be disabled by default, though. Also be able to only take up a little bit of space.

[Jason]

So now no features were ommited from Vista :cool:

[PegasoXP]

You Can use a side bar in Windows XP it's called "Desktop Sidebar" it's pretty cool and have a lot of plugins. very usefull if you get used to.

[neostyle]

On the Sidebar

Why was the Sidebar pulled? Joe Peterson said that MS had originally assumed that more people would have widescreen monitors by now, or dual monitor setups. The idea was that a sidebar on a widescreen or dual monitor wouldn't take up that much real estate. But it hasn't happened. And they don't see it happening by the end of next year. So the basic thinking behind it fell away.

seems there are too many labs in redmond :laugh:

[JiveMasterT]

oh man, i love this... some people are so glad that it's back, but there were so many people whining about how it was the biggest peice of crap ever back when it first debuted. personally, i would just turn it off...

[madnuke]

It would depend, i would turn it off when I was doing something important.

[df_dukkar]

If they allow custom content like can be done with dashboard and it can be assigned a shortcut key so it appears and disappears completely when desired, I see now problem with it. Would be nice to have when I need quick weather info and such.

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the only post i can consider intelligent + thoughtful out of 4 pages of posts.

go bangbang023.

[kinetix63 Veteran]

I'm pretty glad it's back, but I do NOT want to be limited to microsoft sanctioned information appearing in it. I'm already having visions of this being a platform to provide MSN Bloat....

[jojoey]

Good news !

[- diego -]

i don't understand nothing :(

[aristotle-dude]

So now no features were ommited from Vista  :cool:

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WinFS to name one? You are so predictable.

I would not call the sidebar a major feature. In fact, most people without widscreen monitors would want to turn it off anyway.

[tktino]

http://www.internet-nexus.com/images/vista_sidebar.jpg

[neostyle]

Removed at Microsoft's request

Citing trade secrets, Microsoft has asked me to remove this posting. After a brief period of introspection, I've elected to do so. Hopefully, the 6 people who actually read this blog will understand my utter capitulation.

Here's what all the fuss is about. Note that this image is a still from a movie found on a public Microsoft Web site. I guess it's only OK when the leak comes directly from Microsoft, eh?

duhhh...

[Jason]

WinFS to name one? You are so predictable.

I would not call the sidebar a major feature. In fact, most people without widscreen monitors would want to turn it off anyway.

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Its not as if they have scrapped it, its still being developed and will be available after Vista ships as an add-on in some form or other.

[Kenny McCormick]

Great news

[Shining Arcanine]

As for the *boycott IE* mantra, THAT dog shouldn't hunt in any way, shape, or form.  That sort of thinking means that there is only one *proper* way to browse the Web, and is NOT what the Web (or the Internet in general) is about.  If you are going to take IE to task, it should be because of security issues.  Not because it fails to follow *standards* (which Mozilla, Opera, etc. don't always do, either) and not because of features it offers that the competition doesn't.

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Have you ever tried to write a webpage correctly and get it to work in IE? It is a pain. Many web developers are very unhappy people because of it, and that is an understatement.

[JiveMasterT]

Have you ever tried to write a webpage correctly and get it to work in IE? It is a pain. Many web developers are very unhappy people because of it, and that is an understatement.

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oh man, im in the other boat... i wrote a page in notepad and loaded it up in IE and it worked fine and then i opened it up in firefox and the borders on my tables were all screwed, it refuses to run one of the scripts for an image transition (i could understand the effect not working, but basic java script makes the image appear so you would think it would at least appear) and some other crap to. im a very unhappy person because now it seems like in order to get anything to work the way i want it to i gotta redo a huge chunk of my style sheet.

i think the thing web developers (like myself) are unhappy about is how no one can follow the ****ing standards and make the browsers compatible. seriously, it's so retarted....

but i digress...

back on topic, and i really apologize for the off topic post... delete it if need be, but i needed it off my chest.

[PseudoRandomDragon]

i think the thing web developers (like myself) are unhappy about is how no one can follow the ****ing standards and make the browsers compatible.  seriously, it's so retarted....

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The browsers that do a decent job of following standards, like Konqueror and Opera, have less market share than firefox.

[Randolph]

Well, now that Paul Thurrott has leaked the fact that Sidebar WILL in fact be back in Vista come Beta 2, I'll go ahead and post some more information. First off I'd like to say that I do not condone at all Paul's actions of constantly leaking information, though after I heard that Sidebar is already back in builds, I just waited to do a blog post knowing that someone would leak the information in a matter of hours anyway.

ROFL

http://www.extended64.com/blogs/ajerman/ar...08/02/1116.aspx

incase anyone didn't read this.

[amrinders87]

Hope it does not suck.

[Shining Arcanine]

oh man, im in the other boat... i wrote a page in notepad and loaded it up in IE and it worked fine and then i opened it up in firefox and the borders on my tables were all screwed, it refuses to run one of the scripts for an image transition (i could understand the effect not working, but basic java script makes the image appear so you would think it would at least appear) and some other crap to.  im a very unhappy person because now it seems like in order to get anything to work the way i want it to i gotta redo a huge chunk of my style sheet.

i think the thing web developers (like myself) are unhappy about is how no one can follow the ****ing standards and make the browsers compatible.  seriously, it's so retarted....

but i digress...

back on topic, and i really apologize for the off topic post... delete it if need be, but i needed it off my chest.

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Maybe if you knew how to write web pages you wouldn't have that problem. Until then, you have only yourself to blame.

Check this out:

http://www.alistapart.com/articles/journey/

The browsers that do a decent job of following standards, like Konqueror and Opera, have less market share than firefox.

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Firefox does a heck of alot better job than IE.

[Evolution]

Hopefully they'll keep it for the final release :) At the very least, they can leave it on until they revamp it or someone else does for true functionality :D

[L3thal Veteran]

Giving it to us as an option will be great :)

[Hankyone]

omg I found it :ninja:

[canadian397]

omg I found it :ninja:

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omg, they hid one in Windows Xp too

:laugh: