Presenting the new Neowin Logo

[IceDogg]

Well everyone is putting in their 2 cents I thought I would too. :D

I usually like glassy looking graphics more, but I'm very taken by the new look. I can't wait to see the new site. Very good work, and I'm sure it will be appreciated more when the whole new site is seen to all. Keep up the good work and thanks for all that you do

[Dazzla Veteran]

NO, they aren't better.

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That's a bit definitive isn't it? So they don't have a right to an opinion? Then again, it's what I've come to expect...

As for everyone else, yes, Timans and n30w1n's logos look good individually, and I'd go as far as saying (just from what everyone's seen in this thread), they look "better" (especially n30w1n's, never seen aqua/gloss that good :| ). But just have a little faith and wait until you see it all in action :) some of you might be pleasantly surprised, I was.

[DarkCircuit]

At first glance, it does appear to be a simple combination of filters, but if you take a harder look at it, you will realize there's more going on.  I would challenge anyone to recreate the effects using solely filters.  There are subtle shading effects that add dimension and smoothness that were clearly not created with a filter.

My vote: nice job!  It will no doubt look great in the finished design.

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Put money on that.

I can do that using nearly all filters.

[DarkCircuit]

art is never bad ...

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Serriously, do you believe that? :laugh:

[Jexel]

i think its a great logo, but we should always accept and appreciate criticism. Sometimes making a criticism urges the artist to create a even better piece of work.

[Steven P. Administrators]

Hey that was a bad idea!

You see, at neowin we have always just implemented design changes as we see fit, without pre-warning anyone. It always worked well that way (neowin 3.9 upgrade) no-one knew about that till we put it online, that had a logo update too

I bet if we had posted the logo before everyone saw the finshed border updates there would of been complaints too.

The logo is final, it works in what we have and there is no point in people trying to get other variations done because we aren't considering other designs.

Its a shame that we tried to do something we haven't done before and that people are shoving completely different concepts down our throats and then being disappointed when we say we've finalized on the concept and mock up.

[IceDogg]

I hope this doesn't cost us the ability to get small peaks at stuff in the future.

[theyarecomingforyou]

As for everyone else, yes, Timans and n30w1n's logos look good individually, and I'd go as far as saying (just from what everyone's seen in this thread), they look "better" (especially n30w1n's, never seen aqua/gloss that good :| ). But just have a little faith and wait until you see it all in action :) some of you might be pleasantly surprised, I was.

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Thanks for the response, it's easier to relate to than some of the responses we've had. Well, I look forward to the new design. I know a lot of work has gone into this and I certainly didn't mean to sound ungrateful.

Its a shame that we tried to do something we haven't done before and that people are shoving completely different concepts down our throats and then being disappointed when we say we've finalized on the concept and mock up.

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I'm sorry... does this make it better? :rose: :)

[Steven P. Administrators]

Thanks for the response, it's easier to relate to than some of the responses we've had. Well, I look forward to the new design. I know a lot of work has gone into this and I certainly didn't mean to sound ungrateful.

I'm sorry... does this make it better? :rose: :)

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Yes :D Thanks (Y)

[DarkCircuit]

Hey that was a bad idea!

You see, at neowin we have always just implemented design changes as we see fit, without pre-warning anyone. It always worked well that way (neowin 3.9 upgrade) no-one knew about that till we put it online, that had a logo update too

I bet if we had posted the logo before everyone saw the finshed border updates there would of been complaints too.

The logo is final, it works in what we have and there is no point in people trying to get other variations done because we aren't considering other designs.

Its a shame that we tried to do something we haven't done before and that people are shoving completely different concepts down our throats and then being disappointed when we say we've finalized on the concept and mock up.

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No Neobond,

It's not that you shouldnt do it, its that you should just be able to be open to constructive critisism.

How many logos have you really gone through in the past that were that much different?

Honestly, it's a good idea to get a poll, and see what users think.

You want the subscribers (I would hope) to be proud of their board, so why not show them BETA logos.

What Might even be better, is to have an open competition / colaboration to help design a noew logo.. just a thought,

in any case ... you dont always have to take "this logo sucks" as a bad thing. Sure, you can implement without critique, but even after implementation ... it's still going to stink if it stinks.

[E t h a n]

Very slick, and time for a change! :rofl:

[pimpshiznid]

No Neobond,

It's not that you shouldnt do it, its that you should just be able to be open to constructive critisism.

How many logos have you really gone through in the past that were that much different?

Honestly, it's a good idea to get a poll, and see what users think.

You want the subscribers (I would hope) to be proud of their board, so why not show them BETA logos.

What Might even be better, is to have an open competition / colaboration to help design a noew logo.. just a thought,

in any case ... you dont always have to take "this logo sucks" as a bad thing. Sure, you can implement without critique, but even after implementation ... it's still going to stink if it stinks.

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You simply don't understand. It's not about constructive criticism. It's about how the current image works with the design.

The logo is a piece of a large puzzle. If you only see one piece, you cannot tell how the rest of the layout is going to be. There could be dramatic changes between that one piece you hold/see and the completed masterpiece.

[DarkCircuit]

You simply don't understand. It's not about constructive criticism. It's about how the current image works with the design.

The logo is a piece of a large puzzle. If you only see one piece, you cannot tell how the rest of the layout is going to be. There could be dramatic changes between that one piece you hold/see and the completed masterpiece.

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Ok, to some extent I agree with that, ... and your right. To truely judge something that is complete is the best way to do it..

However, a logo IS a logo, and nomatter how it integrates with a board, ... if X-Box's logo looked like this:

But wasnt on the box itself ... would you still say .. "Hey, you have to SEE this thing on the finnished product" ... :laugh:

[Andre]

You simply don't understand. It's not about constructive criticism. It's about how the current image works with the design.

The logo is a piece of a large puzzle. If you only see one piece, you cannot tell how the rest of the layout is going to be. There could be dramatic changes between that one piece you hold/see and the completed masterpiece.

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Then why post the damn thing in the first place if you know that it doesn't justify the whole design. If you were gonna tease the members with the new design then at least post a crop of the whole design with say the logo in it. That way people will see it intergrated in some or another way and you don't have to cover up the **** later with puzzle and etc comments.

[DarkCircuit]

Then why post the damn thing in the first place if you know that it doesn't justify the whole design. If you were gonna tease the members with the new design then at least post a crop of the whole design with say the logo in it. That way people will see it intergrated in some or another way and you don't have to cover up the **** later with puzzle and etc comments.

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Atta boy.

[Bearded Kirklander]

People, you don't come into someone elses sandbox to play and then complain that the box isn't filled with pebbles instead.

It's a long, slow lesson. As much as some would like to think this is a community, it's actually more like you are guests visiting someone elses house. If you want to be invited back, you don't track mud in on the carpet and you don't go about criticizing the design elements of the home they worked so hard to build.

In the end, this is their place, run the way they want it and in accordance with their vision and principles. People who take advantage of the invitation to visit yet spend most of their time criticizing every aspect of the place do little but draw negative attention to themselves. Eventually they'll just stare at you with scorn and contempt wondering why they ever bothered to invite you in the first place and start focusing on ways to discourage you from coming back.

Ultimately, if you are not happy with the places you visit, you might want to branch out and create a destination of your own that is goverened by your vision and your rules. Just like employees that bristle under the yoke of a large company and decide to move on and start their own company so they can run it the way they see fit.

Ironically, over time, as they start to get employees of their own, they might end up resenting the fact that those workers are criticizing their efforts too.

It's a vicious circle, life.

[Fred Derf Veteran]

Nobody likes to have their hard work criticized.  Many people can take it very personally and get defensive, resentful and hold a grudge.

...

It's like when a chick goes "Does this dress make me look fat"?

It's just not a place you want to go, you know what I'm saying?

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I gather that some of the people around here would say:

"Oh sorry, I thought you were a cow."

[DarkCircuit]

First of all ... :laugh:

Ok ...

People, you don't come into someone elses sandbox to play and then complain that the box isn't filled with pebbles instead.

This is my sandbox too, its a COMMUNITY fourum, and as much as you dont think so ... thats what NeoWin touts. Trust me, there are plenty of pebbles, and not ALL of them are in MY shorts.

It's a long, slow lesson.  As much as some would like to think this is a community, it's actually more like you are guests visiting someone elses house.  If you want to be invited back, you don't track mud in on the carpet and you don't go about criticizing the design elements of the home they worked so hard to build.

K, if someone starts a thread, and says, guys ... look at what the new logo in the HOUSE you live in is going to look like. Whadya think? ... We are going to give our honest oppinion. YOU may say .. OOOOoooo wow guys, great job, nobody coulddo better! And you may actually think that. But some of us dont. This is what makes a forum a forum. Different ideas, and different oppinions.

In the end, this is their place, run the way they want it and in accordance with their vision and principles.  People who take advantage of the invitation to visit yet spend most of their time criticizing every aspect of the place do little but draw negative attention to themselves.  Eventually they'll just stare at you with scorn and contempt wondering why they ever bothered to invite you in the first place and start focusing on ways to discourage you from coming back.

D00d. Do you realize how many millions of blogs, boards, and places there are to be, and post your thoughts? Ive been a member for over 3 years, and once under a diff handle. I was here from the start, and Ill be saying "wow, that logo is stupid" .. if indeed I think it is. Free speech is great. Get used to it.

Ultimately, if you are not happy with the places you visit, you might want to branch out and create a destination of your own that is goverened by your vision and your rules.  Just like employees that bristle under the yoke of a large company and decide to move on and start their own company so they can run it the way they see fit.

See .. this is not a company, and even if it were, we are not employees. A sucessful board relies on its "guests" as you put it to make it big. If everyone got sick of the board. There would be no board. We ARE NeoWin.

Ironically, over time, as they start to get employees of their own,  they might end up resenting the fact that those workers are criticizing their efforts too.

...

It's a vicious circle, life.

The best part of a pickle, is the part of the end where the road is green, and it opens the door to needed sleep. ? ... ... <- What?

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[DarkCircuit]

I gather that some of the people around here would say:

"Oh sorry, I thought you were a cow."

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:pinch: :p

[Matt T]

Current logo looks better IMO (N)

[DarkCircuit]

sorry I had to!  :rofl:

Behold the red neoranger!  :ninja:

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OMfg.. lol. I didnt even see that! .. lol.

You know what. The logo is ugly. But so what, the board is still cool. Lol.

anyway, I was just thinkning.. WHAT does it LOOK like now... I finnaly realized it.

It looks like the HELP icon for Longhorn! Omg..

[theyarecomingforyou]

People, you don't come into someone elses sandbox to play and then complain that the box isn't filled with pebbles instead.

It's a long, slow lesson.  As much as some would like to think this is a community, it's actually more like you are guests visiting someone elses house.  If you want to be invited back, you don't track mud in on the carpet and you don't go about criticizing the design elements of the home they worked so hard to build.

In the end, this is their place, run the way they want it and in accordance with their vision and principles.  People who take advantage of the invitation to visit yet spend most of their time criticizing every aspect of the place do little but draw negative attention to themselves.  Eventually they'll just stare at you with scorn and contempt wondering why they ever bothered to invite you in the first place and start focusing on ways to discourage you from coming back.

Ultimately, if you are not happy with the places you visit, you might want to branch out and create a destination of your own that is goverened by your vision and your rules.  Just like employees that bristle under the yoke of a large company and decide to move on and start their own company so they can run it the way they see fit.

Ironically, over time, as they start to get employees of their own,  they might end up resenting the fact that those workers are criticizing their efforts too.

It's a vicious circle, life.

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Good grief, you really don't like keeping things short do you?

lol... ultimately we all come here by choice and I don't see that being likely to change. NEway, as to your remark about the sandbox... the community is invited in and so may offer their opinion on what is put in the sandbox, however the owners get the final say... so yes, you are completely right. Was anyone really disputing that?

[Vice]

Not given my 2 Cents yet, so might aswell.

I think the current logo is nice, I think the new logo is nice, not like we spend more then 5 seconds looking at the logo anyway ;) So I don't know why so many of you are annoyed some even disgusted over the change.

Time to add that Milk to my Special K.

[+StevoFC MVC]

i don't like the logo. it reminds me of the WB themes Winswy makes...

bevels make it look cheap. anyone can add a bevel to something and call it new. sometimes it fits, but this just doesn't look right. i prefer the one you showed for the lite theme much more than the others.

i hope the whole new site design isn't filled with extreme bevels and gradients like the logo is.

[ph3412t3h13]

i like the old one better but good job anyways