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Neowin's Third Annual NFL Pick'em 2005!

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Only in total points. It give him an unfair advantage, even though he picked well after week 3. Keep in mind...most of us had our worst weeks evar in the first three weeks. :p

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I don't think so. A person who misses a week is already penalized by missing out on all the wins.

Why are we using total points as the tiebreaker at all if it doesn't apply if you miss a week?

Plus, I have never heard anyone mention this rule.

They may be 'penalized' by missing out on the wins, when in reality they should be penalized with the losses as well.

This rule has been in effect since year one. As you can see, even if you pick every week it's a close race at the top. If we had no tiebreakers, We'd easily end the year in a tie. That is why it is so important to not miss a week.

You could be picking great, miss a week, and boom, in terms of a tiebreaker, you have an advantage. "But I lose those wins" Well, you've shown yourself that that's not really an issue, as you have come back from being three weeks down. You say that's unfair, but it's how we've always done it.

Keep in mind...if someone accidently forgets to pick a winner of a certain game, we count it as a loss. We've never penalized for losses if people miss a week. Maybe we should do that next year to even out everything. If they don't pick. 12 losses. If you don't pick the points, total points are added to your score.

Heck, if my first three weeks didn't count my overall percentage would be a lot higher. The first three weeks were brutal.

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:huh: Who cares about percentage?

Judging by your sig, I'd say you care about percentages.

But the rankings discriminate against people who miss weeks anyway.

Simple solution to this. Don't miss weeks.

Just wow. "You've shown yourself that that's not really an issue."

Maybe because I've been outpicking everyone since I've joined. Obviously it's an issue. I'm in 8th place instead of 1st. Wouldn't you consider that penalty enough?

You've been 'outpicking' everyone since week 3. Not week one. I'm not penalizing people who've picked since day one. You miss weeks, you fall behind. I can'd do a thing about that.

Oh and by the way...throw illicit's first two weeks out (12-20), so he picked the same amount of weeks as you? He's still beating you 172-63 against 171-64.

Anyway, I'm not the only one that has missed a week, but I seem to be getting penalized here for doing too well.

And everyone else who's missed a week is in the same boat. What makes you different here?

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You can do something.

Praytell me what I can do about people who forget their picks? Give them an average? Pretend they didn't exist and give them a random score?

Enlighten us, as I cannot possibly read your mind.

Still beating me? He isn't beating me right now. And I went 18-14 the first two weeks, so no, he wouldn't be beating me assuming everything else is the same.

Well, those picks weren't made here. I suppose the saying 'If you aunt had testicles, she'd be your uncle' fits in here.

I apologize for not making that clearer, but I honestly thought it was pretty much a logical conclusion. I'll make sure it's clearer for next year.

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All I'm saying is I don't understand the additional penalty, nor do I understand why BOOG bothered with tiebreakers for everyone if they don't count for some people.

Because every week you need a tiebreaker as well. Since I have to tally them all up for the season anyways, I added them up for everyone, all weeks or not, so they themselves could see how their points picks were going for the weeks they participated.

Wow.

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Seattle v. Pittsburgh 51

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Seattle v. Pittsburgh 44

I still can't believe the degree of underdog Seattle is. I think the Steelers are good, but wow, Seattle is given no chance by most "experts".

I know. I Don't think it's going to be a close game, and I am pretty comfortable that it's going to be Seattle.

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I'll post the final standings this evening. :)

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It was Bizarro week, as rap4life won, and i came in last place. :p

Congrats to illicit, this year's NFL Pick'em Champion, setting the bar to the new best record, beating last year's mark of 181-87 (68%) (by yours truly) with a new record of 185-83 (69%)

rap4life 1-0 +4

stncttr908 1-0 +7

BroChaos 1-0 +10

aessap 1-0 +10

Firen? 1-0 +11

Steffan 1-0 +13

dj6ross 1-0 +14

D!ABOL!C 1-0 +14

bigbluepride35 1-0 +15

illicit 1-0 +17

Xeonic 1-0 +17

L3thal 0-1 +10

yisman 0-1 +12

IceDogg 0-1 +13

sbweb77 0-1 +16

Toastyone 0-1 +19

BOOGSoftball 0-1 +20b>Final Playoff Standings:

illicit 9-3 +35

Toastyone 9-3 +42

dj6ross 8-4 +31

stncttr908 7-4 +22

Steffan 7-4 +29

D!ABOL!C 7-5 +26

bigbluepride35 7-5 +34

sbweb77 7-5 +39

Xeonic 6-5 +32

aessap 6-5 +58

rap4life 6-5 +71

BroChaos 6-5 +73

yisman 6-6 +29

BOOGSoftball 6-6 +43

[yt] 5-6 +17

Firen? 5-6 +29

L3thal 5-7 +24

IceDogg 4-7 +30

amadeijohn: 3-1 +39

soloredd 2-2 +9

Final Overall Standinillicit????????...185-83, +232

[yt]?????????..183-84, +265

BOOGSoftball???.?181-87, +226

Toastyone??????181-87, +266

bigbluepride35????180-88, +208

sbweb77?????..?180-88, +238

D!ABOL!C???...??.173-95, +205

yisman????..???171-65, +190

L3thal????..???..170-98, +229

dj6ross???.????.168-100, +256

stncttr98???..???.166-101, +234

Xeonic????????164-103, +248

aessap????????164-103, +251

IceDogg????..???163-104, +213

Steffan????????161-106, +213

BroChaos????.??.160-107, +309

Firen?????????151-116, +221

soloredd?????.??143-101, +163

TheFlusher????..?..138-104, +205

rap4life??????.?..131-105, +266

jmole?????????.87-61, +122

virtualmadden????....85-47, +101

kainashi????????67-49, +101

sanctified???????.54-34, +85

oddcrap????????.37-37, +75

xxpor????????.....31-29, +32

Yorak?????.??..?.31-29, +38

aznsensation18????.30-26, +69

mr_skrilla??????....19-9, +38

deron dantzler?????11-3 +14

Edge00???????.....10-4 +0

Matrix XII???????...9-7 +24

CatnipOligarthy???..?.9-23 +33

XT. ?????????.?.8-8 +18

quank1half???????.8-8 +18

redFX ????????..?7-7 +12

micro????????.?..5-11 +3

Jack31081???????..4-12 +14?????.....31-29, +32

Yorak?????.??..?.31-29, +38

aznsensation18????.30-26, +69

mr_skrilla??????....19-9, +38

deron dantzler?????11-3 +14

Edge00???????.....10-4 +0

Matrix XII???????...9-7 +24

CatnipOligarthy???..?.9-23 +33

XT. ?????????.?.8-8 +18

quank1half???????.8-8 +18

redFX ????????..?7-7 +12

micro????????.?..5-11 +3

Jack31081???????..4-12 +14

Edited by BOOGSoftball

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I know it seems like I nit pick a lot, but on page 82, yisman had me at 172 wins before the Superbowl so I should have 173 afterwards. Here's the link:

http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?show...=360982&st=1215

it's half way down.

Thanks for all your work, this was definitely fun, can't wait to play next season!

Doh..you're right. Fixing now.

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hehe....I was expecting Seattle to blow out Pittsburgh.

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Very true. :)

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