Google Instant Messenger? $100 Laptop?

[OSUKid7]

We don't need another IM!

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It's (rumored to be) based on Jabber, so it's not "another" IM.

What would their OS be based on?

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Um, other than some very wild rumors, who said Google was going to offer an OS? No one except maybe a few people at Google know what the OS would be based on.

[Code.Red]

It might be just my computer that does this but when i type http://whatever.google.com it says it doesn't exist, but if i type http://talk.google.com it redirects me to googles own 404 page saying google.com/talk/ was no found on this server  :blink:

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:o Interesting, you may be on to something there...

[Shoop]

:o Interesting, you may be on to something there...

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We'll find out in a few days :D I tried chat.google im.google and all sorts but that was the only one which worked. Whatever it is i'm really looking forward to it.

[Glowstick]

About talk.google.com, good guess. Look my Trillian connection log:

[23:35:46] *** Creating connection "[email protected]/Trillian"

[23:35:47] *** Server supports TLS encryption...

[23:35:47] *** Negotiating XMPP SSL connection...

[23:35:48] *** Connection established using EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (TLSv1/SSLv3)

[23:35:56] *** ERROR: iq error 405

[23:35:57] *** Connect: Account failure.

[Shoop]

About talk.google.com, good guess. Look my Trillian connection log:

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I'm sorry, you'll have to explain what the means :unsure:

[scowl]

A Google OS would probably be pretty damn cool. Right out of the box I bet it would be Microsofts biggest competitor.

[Glowstick]

I'm sorry, you'll have to explain what the means  :unsure:

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It means there's a Jabber server responding on talk.google.com on port 5222.

http://tomservo.cc/blogs/english/archive/2005/08/22/35.aspx :D

[KayMan2K]

I'm sorry, you'll have to explain what the means  :unsure:

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That a secure server is running at talk.google.com. Perhaps this could be there IM server waiting to be made public.

[Glowstick]

It IS an IM server. XMPP is the IETF acronym for Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol, alternatively known as Jabber. What the Trillian status window reports is a XMPP session initiation with SSL/TLS.

[ev0|]

put it on the neowin front page and it can be another neowin scoop !!!! :laugh:

[Shoop]

Wow! :D I half discovered this :p hahah!

I name my discovery: Pleh!

[kitchenutensils]

wow lol thats a slip-n-a-half!

[k311]

it would be great for MS to have some real competition, google could do that. i twould encourage microsoft to make a better product(s). say what you want apple fans, but microsoft doesnt worry a whole lot about macs right now, they can prettimuch do whatever they feel.

[Glowstick]

In the case of Google, they're using an open XML based protocol. If talk.google.com is related to their supposed shenanigans on Wednesday, you'll be able to use any Jabber capable client, not just Google IM.

[Amnesia]

people might say, Google is doing too much or is out of their league or "we dont want another MS" but why not?

It's great, more competition hopefully means better prices and better tech.

[Jambooo]

Is it me or has everyone missed Google Desktop 2 which was released today?

Edit: no worries.. seen it

[Veedems Veteran]

About talk.google.com, good guess. Look my Trillian connection log:

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Very good find.

The problem is going to be getting enough people to want to use Google IM. I'm very happy using AIM for my friends and MSN for Neowin staff. How are they going to convince everyone to change over? What's going to be their selling point? That's what interests me. As it was stated, you need to have people on the network for it to entice other people. That's one of the main reasons YIM is so far behind the other clients in terms of general useage. No one knows anyone on it and therefore sees no need in using it.

[Glowstick]

They might offer transports to those services. But to have them look attractive, the Google IM client has to expose an user-friendly transport configuration interface.

Also, I've just remembered that the XMPP RFCs allow for your own SASL authentification mechanisms. So it might be possible, that even if Google uses Jabber for their potential IM services, that they might lock you into Google IM via proprietary SASL, if you want to use their service.

--edit:

As a sidenote, their XMPP server doesn't respond to the checkLogin IQ as supposed. Instead of replying with 403-Forbidden or telling the client whether it wants a plaintext password or a digest, it just tells straight away that it doesn't support plaintext. Whatever that means, probably their way keeping the service locked down until Wednesday.

Edited August 22, 2005 by Tom Servo

[Marshalus Veteran]

https://www.neowin.net/comments.php?id=30063&category=main

Thanks guys.

[xpgeek]

Google IM :D Oh yeaaa.

Probly won't use it much but can't wait to try it.

[Nexus-]

actually if they can offer compatability with aim, yahoo, and msn AND allow for display pictures and file transfers to work across all of the protocols it might be worth it to switch. thats all i really need anyway.

[itsnotabigtruck]

Maybe talk.google.com is for internal corporate IM, not actually a public IM service.

[Colin-uk Veteran]

unless google IM can connect to the other networks (like MSN, AIM etc) people arnt going to switch..

(because that'll mean all thier contacts [and all thier contacts contacts etc] will have to too)

[Crazysah]

I would definately love to try it and I am sure it will be great!

[Slimy]

That a secure server is running at talk.google.com.  Perhaps this could be there IM server waiting to be made public.

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public? we're talking about google here. it will be made "beta". :laugh: