glasscleaner Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 I try to search on google a list of x64 linux version and i dont find anything right. someone have a tips? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson Behelit Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 The following distros have x86_64 arches (list is incomplete... just off the top of my head) Fedora Core Ubuntu SuSE Gentoo Arch Mandrake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markwolfe Veteran Posted September 4, 2005 Veteran Share Posted September 4, 2005 Go to http://distrowatch.com/search.php and select x86_64 from the "Archetecture" drop down. (Y) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beh Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 gentoo! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaNcom Posted September 4, 2005 Share Posted September 4, 2005 A short history lesson: - AMD invents the extension, calls it x86-64. - Linux, the first OS that supports x86-64, calls the arch accordingly. - AMD renames x86-64 to amd64, to make clear they invented it. - Intel implements amd64 support, but calls it em64t, to trick users into thinking they didn't copy from AMD. - Intel asks the Linux kernel devs to rename the arch to em64t, or at least add em64t as an alias. Linus refuses, tells Intel that he would rather call the whole arch amd64 system-wide. - Intel asks Microsoft to rename Windows XP amd64, and they do. Microsoft invents the x86 name, maybe to please both parties, or maybe to make mere users think Microsoft invented amd64. - SUN, being the opportunists they are, call the Solaris arch x64 too. Resume: x86-64 (original name) == amd64 (official standard name) == em64t (Intel trademark) == x64 (Microsoft/ SUN buzzword)... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ichi Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 A short history lesson: - AMD invents the extension, calls it x86-64. - Linux, the first OS that supports x86-64, calls the arch accordingly. - AMD renames x86-64 to amd64, to make clear they invented it. - Intel implements amd64 support, but calls it em64t, to trick users into thinking they didn't copy from AMD. - Intel asks the Linux kernel devs to rename the arch to em64t, or at least add em64t as an alias. Linus refuses, tells Intel that he would rather call the whole arch amd64 system-wide. - Intel asks Microsoft to rename Windows XP amd64, and they do. Microsoft invents the x86 name, maybe to please both parties, or maybe to make mere users think Microsoft invented amd64. - SUN, being the opportunists they are, call the Solaris arch x64 too. Resume: x86-64 (original name) == amd64 (official standard name) == em64t (Intel trademark) == x64 (Microsoft/ SUN buzzword)... ;-) 586479199[/snapback] The x64 name doesn't even make sense, what does the x stand for? :huh: If it's just a random character, it's far to similar to the x86 arch name, which makes it confusing (well, maybe that was the intention after all). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gertin Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 A short history lesson: - AMD invents the extension, calls it x86-64. - Linux, the first OS that supports x86-64, calls the arch accordingly. - AMD renames x86-64 to amd64, to make clear they invented it. - Intel implements amd64 support, but calls it em64t, to trick users into thinking they didn't copy from AMD. - Intel asks the Linux kernel devs to rename the arch to em64t, or at least add em64t as an alias. Linus refuses, tells Intel that he would rather call the whole arch amd64 system-wide. - Intel asks Microsoft to rename Windows XP amd64, and they do. Microsoft invents the x86 name, maybe to please both parties, or maybe to make mere users think Microsoft invented amd64. - SUN, being the opportunists they are, call the Solaris arch x64 too. Resume: x86-64 (original name) == amd64 (official standard name) == em64t (Intel trademark) == x64 (Microsoft/ SUN buzzword)... ;-) 586479199[/snapback] You gotta love the computer industry. :ninja: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glasscleaner Posted September 5, 2005 Author Share Posted September 5, 2005 - Intel asks the Linux kernel devs to rename the arch to em64t, or at least add em64t as an alias. Linus refuses, tells Intel that he would rather call the whole arch amd64 system-wide so em64t is amd64 compatible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaNcom Posted September 5, 2005 Share Posted September 5, 2005 More or less. em64t misses a few amd64 functions and parts of the architecture (HyperTransport, integrated MC and NUMA capability are parts of amd64, as well as a few other things), and Intel added a few HyperThreading-specific functions. But those differences are only important for applications using those functions in Assembly code (never seen one), usually, compilers produce software that just works on both implementations. So yes, it's pretty much the same, unlike Intels SSE crap back then: Intel ripped 3DNow Ex, that was OK because AMD wanted 3DNow to become a standard. But they not only renamed the extension, they also made some slight changes to make SSE and 3DNow incompatible. If you look at the gcc compiler backends, you'll notice that both extensions are almost exactly the same, with only a few slight modifications (not improvements!)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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